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| [...]Fra- zier (chairinan) presidin", at 9.15 o'clock a. 111. Presen t : Senators "\IV. B. Pine, Ehn e[...]and B. IC ,i'\7heeler. .<\!so present: 1\-Ir. A ..A. G,·orud1 special assistant to the co1n1nittce, and 111r. Nclson A. l\1ason, clerk ot the co1n1nittee. Senator FR[...]order. This hearing is called under authority of a resolution passed by the United S tates Senate, authorizing and directing the Co,nmittee on Indian 1\fl'a.irs of the Senate to hold an investigation and in[...]first witness we will call is Mr. Andrews. H. A. 1\NnRE\\'S was thereupon called as a witness, and, after being first duly sworn, t~sti[...]FnAZIJ::R. Your full name 1 l\1r ANonE,vs. H. A. 1\.ndrews. Senator FRAZIER. You are acting su[...]I am traveling audito1· in charge of the Quapaw A<>ency. Senator FnAzn:n. I-lo"' long have[...] |
| [...]ly ho,v 1nany restricted Indians have youi Mr. A~nE,v.s. Ji coul d not t(lll y,ou et>actly the ilu[...]00, but the removal of restrictions has relensecl a great 1nany of them. Senator Itn,,zrrn. 1'hat[...]l\'Ir. ANoRE,vs. Yes, sir; but ,ve do not carry a census of ~hose· In,dinns. .[...]nE,vs. I expected to go back to the office to get a letter that I had 1,?repared which gave that info[...]nat<;>r l! RAZIEn. '\>Ve can get that informatiou a little later. l\ir..AN1)REWS. I had it up ther[...], Senator FnAzmn. Have you a field nurse or a field 1natron1 l\ir. ANDRE\VS. ,ve do not have[...]or ii field nurse. Senator FRAzIEn. How about a hospital 1 l\ir. ANORE\vs. No agency hospital. vVe have a little 12-becl hos- pit,al clown in the school th[...]c:ire of any one out.side of the school? l\1r. A.NORE\VS. No; ,ve have a conti:act physician that takes care of the[...] |
| [...]tuberculosis here 1 Mr. ANDRJ::ws. Quite a bit. I do not think there is as 1nuch as in o[...]as s01ne of the other schools he has visited; a very li1nited nu1nber. Senator FnAzn;n. 1\ few years ago in 1nany parts of the United .States a1nong the Indian.s, doctors ,vere sent out to trea[...]hat his salary is. Senator FRAZIER. I-Ie is a contract physician for the school ? iV[r. ANDRE\l'S. No. He is a special traveling physician. Senator Fn,1.z[...]very poor. Senator F1iAzIER. Are there not a good n1any of these Indians getting royalties fr[...]n1ines around hcre1 · Mr. A.NDREWS. Some of the Quap1nvs, but only a s1nall percentnge ·of the Qua.paws are.[...]m farm ; 1nany of then1 ,vork out at any kind of a job they can get. Senator FnAzn:n. I suppose, nowi there are a great 1nany out of e1n ploy1nent that ciin not get work l l\1r. A1'DRE"'S. Yes, sir. · Sen[...]R. Ti,nes are ha.r der this fall than ordinarily a1noug the Indians 1 l\11·. ANmn;ws. Yes; I t[...]1neans of ascertaining that, have you? Mr. .A.xonEws. I do not hnve, except just by acci[...] |
| [...]ou visit n.ny of these Indian ho1nes1 lVh·. AA chief clerk, stenographer, appropriation ledger clerk, individual 1noney clerk, land and lease clerk, a.nd an assistant in the office, ,vith the a.ppraiser. '!'here is one field ,nan £01· the no[...]· Senator 'l'no11rAs. 'fhen you have a field 1nan and a £ar1ner 1 Mr. A"'.oR~:,vs. Yes, sit·; the farmer is stationed at ,~ryandotte and devotes lus a.ttention to the south half. Senator PINE. 1'[...]s. Practically all of then1 work in the office. I a1n not cen- suring or cri t_icisi~~ you at all; b[...]or thought he had tracho1nn. He had chills fro1n a fever. He had no doctor. He ,vas expecting to get no doctor. He see1ned to think it was a n1atter of either getting ,veil ,vithout 1nedicine or 1nedical a.ttention or dying, one of the two. ,ve inquired a[...],,r Mr. ANninavs. ell, yes. '!'he a1nount of ,noney they get is appro- priated[...] |
| [...]e than they have gotten, Senator. Senator Pn,a:. Do your employees like the I ndians? l'lfr.[...]'hey live in the adjoini_ng territory. 'fhe Quap_a,v .terr!tory is in the north half.. 1'hey live reasonably close to M1am1. 'I he Senecas nre th!l farthest. a,vay. 'l'hey extend south as far as 35 1niles. '[...]s. liow many Govcrn1nent schools have you? Mr. A:NnnEws. One boa.rclino- school. Sen,1tor FnAY-[...]nator FnAzIEn. Two hundred nnd twenty-seven. Ho,v a.re the other children pro;vided for? By public sc[...]l\Ir. ANOREws. Fairly ,veil. ' \'e do not have a. representative, a so-called day-school representative, to visit the schools to sec ,vho arc attending and who a.re not. .i\1y principal clerk last year sp[...] |
| [...]r ''' IIEELER. I am jusf iunazecl that you Indian a.gents dO"' ll here-the people who are supposed to[...]nything about them. b'Ir. .ANnR>:ws. 'fhere is a limit to what ,ve can do. Senator ~ 7J,O-$I.ER[...]-do tl1e '1·ork you are required to do-there are a lot of people who would be delighted to have your[...]These jobs are not just created W g ive son1ebody a salary, you know, or so111e politicians ii salar;[...]uditor. Senator THOMAS. You are here, then, as a t raveling auditor and not as a superintendent r l\1r. 1\.NDREWS. yes, sit'.[...]26, 1929. Senator THOhIAS. You have been here a year and two 01, three n1onths, not as superinten[...]he appropriation ledger clerk's salary1 Ml'. ·A,NDaE,vs. $1,740, I believe it is. Senator 1'Ho[...]t is the land and lease clerk's sn.hiry? l\ir. A.NDRE\VS. $2,i60. Senat<lr 'l'HOMAS. ,vhnt is t[...]0. Senator THo~rAs. \Vhnt does he do? ilir. A.NDRE,vs. His duties are the appraisal of rights of w,~y of all descriptions and to oversee a.nd assist in improven1 ents that 1nay be u[...] |
| [...]not have' property, if anything? ]\fr. A.'101rnws. He does not have 1nuch to do with tho1n[...],vhat does he do? ifr. ANDREWS. His duties a.re supposed to be in connectiou with the ngric[...]e to thcn1. Senator THOMAS. , \Till you get a little in-fornrntion about the nmnber of these[...]l\'Ir. ANon,:ws. Yes, sir. Senator 'l'aoMas..A.rid those who are not in this vicinity, they a,·e not on the resrcvntion, is that right?[...]. I do not know how 1nany, but son1e of thein who a re off tho reservation have prope1·ty here. Of c[...]lia tor 'l'HoM,1s. How 1nany Ottawas? l\fr ...A.Non1:ws. 'l'wo hundred and sixty-six.[...] |
| [...]AS. How 1nany Peoda Indians have you? l\1r. .A.Non.:ws. I do not have any record of the Peoria I[...]vs. No; not unless s01nebody cn1ne in and ,vanted a li ttle advice. Senn tor 'l'HOMAS. 1-Iow ab[...]restrictions expired on their land. It hns been a nu1nber of years ago. I think probably .8 or 10 years since they carried a. census. . Senator[...]there nre in the vicinity, or le-ft? l\1r. A.NonE,vs. 'faking thern co1nbincd I !<hould say th[...]s, 522. Senator 'l'no:i\r,1s. Now, is it not a fact t hat practically all of the -work of th is[...]v n1uch cash do you collect each year? iYir. A.NDR'f;WS. Last year, something over $800,000:[...]agency 1 l\1r. 1\.xonEws,. S01net hi11g like a little over $3,500,000 at the pres- .ent ti1ne.[...]in Oldaho,na, and banks in JCansas, Mis- souri, a.nd 1\rkansas; one bank in Washington, D. C., and, I believe, 1 have a bank in Io,va, but I could not-- Senator \\T[...]laced there by the departinent. If -there is any a,nount of 1noney to be placed it is placed[...] |
| [...]ir. Senator 'TH011rAs. You have no n1oney in a tribal fund, have you? l\1r. ANonE,vS. No, s[...]he lease rentals are s1nall they arc not retained a great while; they are soon disbursed for their benefit in sorne ma.nner or other. '!'here would be only a fe,v dolliirs t hat ,vo_uld be fro111 leases from[...]l Indians. Do you 1nakc an allo,vance of so much a month to the I ndians who o,vn t he money? l[...]· Mr. ANonE\VS. It runs fron1 $50 a 1nonth to $1,000 a month. Senator 'l'Mo)r,1s. Do you pay t.hc bi[...]s. ,vc authorize fro1n the office. • vVith this a.llo,vance they are expected to take care o[...] |
| [...]s. If they ,vant to ~uy stock ou~ of their ailo,v,a nce they can do thn.t for feed Ol' anytlung els[...]vs. Yes, sir. Senator '£uo)rAs. If they run a credit account? Mt·. •<\.NDRE,vs. Yes, si[...]t; ,vould he hitve to come into town and get an. _a uthorization for repairs before be could have it done and: have it paid for? Mr. A.NDRE\l'S. They generally communicate ,vith us- An[...]Senator 'fHOl\iAS. vVell, your rule is not hard a.n d fast, then, is it?· 1v1r. ANDRE\VS. On[...]t luive no p1:operty to speak of no,v i ~1r. A:--onE,vs. 'fhei·e are son1e restricted allotn1en[...]not operate to relieve thmn of it? J:l'lr. .A.NDRE\VS. S01ne of then1 sold and in quite a large number of cases at t he expi ration of the[...]\'as that? 111:r. ANoru:,vs. I should say of a 25-year trust period.· The re- strictions[...] |
| [...]practicnlly gotten rid of their land 1 ~1r. A.NDRE,vs. I just can not tell you "'hat percentage[...]hree hundred 1 · Mr. 1\.NORf;,vs. .;\.round 400. A great many of these 2,000· Indians never had la[...]ving attention ,vhatever to the hen.Ith situation a,nong the [ndians of this jurisdiction?[...]es I have ,vorked at? Sen11tor P1NF.. Sort of a general stnte,nent as to where yo11 h:ive been lo[...]andotte on J nly ,v 4, 1914, as a stenographer. Senator Pnn,. yanclotte, Okla. ? l\ir. ANoR}:,vs. Yes, sir. I ,Vas a.t tha.t tin1e working in ,vhat ,ve , called inheritance work. I ,vas down here until the followinR l\'{a.rch. Then went with an agency in Colorado; fro,n[...]e to California. Durin<Y, all that period. I ,vas a stenog- rapher with an exa,niner 0£ inherita.nce. After that I ca,ne in as a clerk in South Dakota; fro,n there to Red[...] |
| [...]ian over at Wyandotte~ l\{r. 1\.NDU'E\VS. $840 a yea1·. Senator PINE. Does he visit the Indian[...]oni,:,vs. Yes sir. Senator l<RAzn-:n. ?here is a total on the reservation of 659 out of the total[...]h. . 1\-Ir. A.NDRE\\'S. 'fhnt would be about the percentage her[...]e1n directly, or just how do they get it 1 Mr. A.NDRE\\'S. '!'hat is distributed through our office at the present tin1e by a courtesy arrange1nent made with the St!lte of New[...]or FnAZlER. Approxi1utitely ho,v 1nuch do you get a ycar1 l\'Ir. ANDRE\VS. I think it is $853.83.[...]re on the roll; they are not all here. "\Ve 1nail a good ,nany of those checks out. Senator[...] |
| [...]ns of these Indians.1 You stnted you should have a physicia.n, and do you think you need a hospital here for the1n '? Mr.•'\NORE,vs. '\Vell, I think we v.•oulcl have justification for a. hospital here, as they have a hospital at so1ne of the other places. Senator FR,1.zum. Did you reco1nni.end a hospital'? l\fr. ANDRE,vs. I did not reco1n1nend a. hospital. I reco1n1nended that ,ve have 1t full[...]servation. Senator FRAZIER. Ji'or the•school a.nd for the reservation'? l\fr. AN01n:ws. Yes,[...]tions'? Mr. ANn1n;i,vs. :\Veil, that brings up a question that has not been 1nentioned here. · In[...]srna.U places are located. 'fhey are plotted. For a ntunber of years ,ve have endea.v• ored to collect rental on this· land where these houses a.re built. 'l'he India.us do not own the ho[...] |
| [...]ership would interfere ,vith the 1nining lenses; a.JI the 1nines have leases on this land1 nncl a.ny house or structure on the surface that intel,f[...]e. Senator THoi.rAs. At one time Picher w·as a very large town, ,vas itnot1 . •[...]- Senator 'I'no?>rAS. :A:o"" many people-1:csided there at it,s peak i[...]enator '1'1iOlllAS. Ho,v about Cardin; was that ·a town of. consid- erable size a.t one time 1 !lfr. ANDRE\\'$, y cs, sir.[...]I believe it would. Senator THo?>IAS. Now, wh_a t is going to hapv.en to this property wh[...] |
| [...]your super- vision died last year~ l\1r. A.NDRE,vs. Not without going into the record to fin[...]record of it1 l\11·. ANDRE\l'S. No, sir; I a1n afraid we would not have, particu- larly ,vith[...]. Mr. A.NDRt:,vs. '£he last census shows a slight increase. Senator PINE. Do you know w[...]ndian children in school or fewer in school than a year ago? 1\-Ir. ANDREws. I could not say. Senator F'nAZIER. Is there a field ·survey being made of the con- ditions of[...]'1e districts here in the State they are 1naking a snr1•ey no,v, and ,ny understanding was[...] |
| [...]we could or not. · I under~ stood they lJlade a . separate census, but ,vhethet' it, ,vould be in[...]ound some conl compiinies do\vn here ,vho ,vere a,vay back in their pay1nents of royalties to these[...]y here ,vhich practically ,vent broke that ,vns a little delinquent. '\,\Te have a surety bond that will cover the part of[...] |
| [...]. No; he is under the Geological Survey. vVe have a cooperative agreement ,vhereby we work right tog[...]of the reservation? l\1r. ANDitEws. Fro1n J a.nuary 1, 1921. .[...]e Muskogee office? :i)!lr. ANDRE\v. Yes;· to a certain extent. Senator FRAZIER. ,vhat do you nlean by "to a certain extent"? iV!r. ANDREWS. ,v eu, s[...]er 1nade any audit of the office, however, to get a. balance in their accounts, the sa1ne as an auditor would go in a. bank, a business proposition, or an institution i l'l[...]audit ·would you make in t hese different Indian a.«encies?[...] |
| [...]NITED STATES l'IIr. ANnnE,vs. '\\ie have a lot of individual Indian 1noney. l\{aybe |
| [...]. · Senator 'l'a.oic,,.s. The only "'ay they get tbi,s informl!,ti[...]y way. Senator 'fJ'IOl\CAS. Do you give the1n a slip showing their balance or do yon tell the1n[...]dvisiJ1g the Indians voluntarily on your part by a n1onthly or a quarterly state.-. ~nent of their account 1[...]eep him in ignorance of his balance i l\'!r. A.NDRE\VS. I do not think it is keeping hi1n in ign[...]IJER. They can not sell· it to the1n if you keep a check on the1u, can they 1 l\fr. .Andrews. I[...]ents. I have no objection at· all so fat· as I a1n concerned, if that ,vas the policy to 1na.ke n[...]to.,the1n. Senator Tuo11rAs. 1\.1:e there , n1a.ny bills in this com1nunity 111 existence for 1n[...]dians without authority? l\ir. ANOREws. Quite a. lot. · , • Senator 'l[...]these bills 'I l\ir. 1\.NonE,vs. vVell, there a,re ~rocery dealers., hardware dealers, an[...] |
| [...]t,igation. Senator '1'1101\IAS. '\Vhe~ Y?U get a _bill you ~o _to yo111, records 1:<> see ,vhether[...]with annually? Mr. ANoni,;,vs. That ,vould be a hard question to ans,ver definitely. . Senator TH[...]your JUd"ment. l\fr. ANDREWS. In the course of a year many of them come many ti1nes; I thin[...] |
| [...]in tins v1c11uty that ~ave no. contact with tins a.gency ~r ,vith the Govern1nent a.nd winch Indians get no benefit from tins agen[...]the Inctian got his five, six, seven hundred or a thousand dollars a month, he is expected to pay that out of his all[...]h this sec- tion up here where there had not been a fielcl agent or a soul to see these Indians. '\:Ve saw India[...] |
| [...]s It disgusting situation. Un\ess they' ll!'e goi~a"' to take care of these people, unless these peop[...]"' pa1 get out of their swi_vel chairs anq get up a1noJ1~ the In~i1u1s an~ take c11re of tl1e1n w·e[...]'HOJ\!AS. I-las the Coyi~1~issione1· of Il\di,u1 A.ffa~rs eve1· visited this agency to your knowled[...]Senntor 'fROM,1s. How long ago? l\'.[r. .A.NllllEWS. I ,vas not here. 1'hat was before my ti[...]not,be lost i '\Vbat I ha.ve in mind is this: In a bank most of the t rouble is ,vith the big[...] |
| [...]red to another Indinn. they can be transferred to a \\•hite 1nan, ulti1hately. I f that $805 can[...]found ,vhere one Indian's money had been paid to a.~other India1_1. ,ye did not ~o into that t o f[...], of course, just :is it sometiu1cs h:ippens in a bitnk-they charge so1nebody el~e•s check to your account, and vice -versit. That runs for quite a \l•hile before you run it out. Senator PI[...]t the amount of mol)ey sent to the bureau and to a certa.in agency is properly accounted for and th[...]ndividual accounts of the Indians were gone into a.t all. In othet' ,vords, if there is a crooked agent or a crooked emp'loyee in one of these offices your au[...]not go into that detail. ~enator FnA7.ttn. I a1n not blaming yon, of course. It is part o[...] |
| [...]s you just uncovered are , uncovered the.. person.a l disbursing agent is liable under his bond for[...]e office responsible for that incident? l\1r. A.ND!lliws. I presun1e there was. Senator '"7m:ELER. You s'a y they are linble on the bond! but ))ere is an a[...]e depart1nent has never made them pay the mouey b.a~IF or never 1nade them pay their bond, or-anythi[...]· Senator PINE. How often are these agencies a.uclited? l\1r. ANDREWS. Well, I. think so1netin1cs it would be six months, and again it ,vould be a year before I would "Ct around. Senator PINE. I think they, told us at 1fuskogee that they never bad had a comp!ete audit o.f that office.[...]re for several weeks at least. Mr. ANDllE,vs. A co1nplete audit would entail a . checking of the 1noney from the time it was i:e[...]records or tl,ings of that nature. Ii would take a vast a1nount of time and men to do it. , Se[...]hool down here, we have had up the proposition of a nev>' dormitory for the school down there for two or three years. Last year it w.a s mentioned in Congress but did not go througJ;.[...]. Senator FR,1z1En, Is that because of lack of a.p plications or roo1n 1 1ir.•<\.NDREWS. Room[...]y wish that the 1noney be sufficient to construct a fire- proof dormitory. Senator PINE. Ar[...] |
| [...]EWS. Yes, sir. Senator 'l'HollIAS. Has he made a request for a dormitory¥ 1 11'.h·. ANoREWS. '!'hut comes thro[...]au and curried on through to the Budget. !l{r. A.NDREWS. I understood they could not get it throug[...]lll.A>II, Ora.A, F e~1•11a,·11 3, 1930. COM?.tlTT~'E ON INDIAN A f"FAJRS, Unitecl S tales S en[...]mployees at the agency proper when all posi tions a re. fillecl as now authorized. 1 'l her<! :1rc 24 employees at the Seuc<:a I ndian School, under this nr;cucy. 'l'he nmou[...]ime 07 Quapaw llllotments, co1aprisiug 16,76'2.62 a cres ; 53 \Vynmlottc allotments, compri:,ing 2,27[...]186 85 10\? 187 Otta~·a ... ... .. ..... ...... . . ... . .... ..[...] |
| [...]he $1001 l\'fr. ANOREws. If she ,vould 1nake a ,vritten request to pa:y the $100, all right; b[...]I have been here that the ofllce has "Titten · a. letter to so1nebody in which they -sa.i d if she nJade a written request to give an allowa.nce to her gr[...],vhether it was aU of the,n or not. '!'here ,vere a. lot of out- standing clai1ns of the 1nerchants[...]h is money here and ,vhen the.se Indians go out a.nd contract these bills, sometimes you pny'them and s01neti1nes you do not and then all at once there is a. change of |
| [...]ildl·en of restricted parents who have completed a hii;b-school course and numbe1· now attending co[...]o tribes for the reason that at the Seneca school a number of these cbildreu are enrolled elsewhere,[...]respectfully refer you to the attached Ex.h ibit A as prepared bY tbe principal of this school.[...]emic of smallpox. Otherwise there are no recorcls a,,_ailable as to other epidemics.[...]B. A. ANDREWS,[...] |
| [...]EXHIBIT A Information l·eque.stc<l in 1>nragr[...] |
| [...]trict fairs, and in 1929 at Mi ssouri State Flltr aA. lsik e, ' 2, 1ll"$t. ........[...]Information 1·eqnested in paragrapli 4 i_s not a t the school, except for 1928-29'_[...] |
| [...]F. , vnlinms, J. ,v. Howell, Verne Thompson, F1-a11k Childress. RENA SPICER was thereupon ca.lied as a witness and, after being :first duly sworn[...] |
| [...]ne granddaughter and my own little boy and I got a boy that has been out for son1e tune because he got a whipping down there ,vith a strap and they left stripes on that boy and he w[...]e.y ,vhipped him. He went to bed and laid down on a bench and J\£1·. Ka~ey ,vhipped hi1n and the bo[...]w some of these boys need to . be whipped once in a ,vhile. i£rs. SPICER. I do not blame anybody[...].' It is all right. But when they come to abusing a child because he ,vas sick I do not think that is[...]y going to school now1 Mrs. SPICER. No, sir; I a1n not able to send all of them to school. Sena[...]gree of blood? Mrs. SPicsn. I think they say I a1n a half-breed. Senutor THOMAS. Are you on the rol[...]of 1t I sold 1t. Mr. And1·ews said he would make a special Teqnest to get the little ~~·ls back in[...]I do not kno,v. He promised either he or l\:lr. I{a."ey would go around to visit the Indians a[...] |
| [...]t is all there is to it. Sena tor TFIOM,,s. A.re you y~ur only ineans of support i l\•I[...]he is unable to work. Senn tor P1NE. I s he a fnll-blood Indian 1 l\1rs. SPrcr.11. Not qu[...]ere? l\irs. Sr1cn1. Yes, sir; they could get a better ed ucation. It is harder, but, then, they[...]l lead us to believe thnt the public schools hnve a i1111ch hi<>her standard t.hnn Indian sch[...] |
| [...]l? . Mr. ANDRE\VS. 'fo begin ,v1th, we hact a. letter last sn1nmer 1n ,vlnch the office called[...]ad 143 pupils in school do"'n there living within a mile and a half of public school. '\>Ve ,vere told to eli1ni[...]AZIER. The idea, as I understand it., was to give a chance to Indian children that happened to be liv[...]AN1>11Ews. 1'hat ,vas the instructions to us. In a great 1nnny cases we find the Indian towns, while[...]er sister ri~1t in t_o"'ll and her sister married a wealthy Qnapa,v Indian. .::,enator 'fH0~1As[...]ver, 1s an orphan. 1\-fl's. SPICER. I-Ie hns a father able to work and his sister has ~ood work right here in town and keeps this boy. He is a pet down t here of i\1r. ICagey, if that is what[...]l\frs. SPIC};R. No, sir. His father used to be a playn1ate of ours when ,ve were nil down ho1ne nnd this little boy and 1ny boy a.re friends. 1'hey n re chu1ns and he stays with u[...]on of his ti1ne. Senator Fn,1zn:11. You have a son that ,vorkecl in the 1nines at one til[...] |
| [...]school 1 l\'frs. SPIC}:R. ,veil, there quite a few that can not go to school. Tl~ey C>l!l uot g[...]'THOHAS. \ 7ery many. l\irs. SPIC.Ell. Quite a few. Senator F'R,1zu:n. Do your son's childr[...]n they can, if they have shoes on their feet and a few clothes on their back they go to school, but[...]Senator 'THO~IAS. '.Are you acquainted ,vith a good many Indian hon1es? l\irs. SPICER. Yes,[...]d with food 1 l\irs. SPICER. Ycs, sir; I know a good many that are unprovided with food an[...] |
| [...]ed.) Sus,\N Fxsu:en " 'as thereupon ca.lled as a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testif[...]n on the r eservation. Senator Fn,,iIER. Speak a little louder. Senator vV1IEELER. ,vher[...] |
| [...]or FRAZrER. '\>Vhy? l\,frs. l<'ISHER. Because I a1n not able to clothe them to send them to the dis[...]rs. F1sHER. 'l'hey have to walk unless they catch a r ide. Senntor FnAZIER. Yes. J\'frs. l•ISII[...]. Senator F1lAZXER.' 1-Io,v 1nany have you that a.re not going to school? ]\{rs. FISHER. One. S[...]Senator FRAZIER. He probably goes down once in a ,vhile, but anJ,vay the superintendent dow[...] |
| [...]Vhat tribe do you belong to 1 1\1rs. FrsHER. I a1n a Cayuga. Senator 'l'HOMAS. Did you say a 1na.jority of the students in this school wer0 Ch[...]Senator THOMAS. Sixty-five per cent? Mr ...A.NDREWS. Yes sir. ' Se[...]ate1nent here this 1norning it was supposed to be a ,,ryandotte school and the 1najority of thci othe[...]~Ir. AN1.nn:ws. I do not think it was built ns a , vyandott.e school particularly. It was b[...] |
| [...]WS. 'l'hat is all. It is operated on the order of a non- appropriation school. All of these applica[...]not have any. Senator 'l'HOMAS. '!'here is a school at 'l'ahlequnh. That is in the -Cherokee Nation. l\1rs. FISHER. I understand a child must be at least a half orphan before they can go to school there[...]. ,i\That do they take to school ,vith then.1 for a .noonda v nieal? ~f1·s. "F1sHER. Just ,vhat ,ve ciln give them. Sometimes they will take a biscuit nnd s01ne jelly and n1cat if ,ve can buy[...]ator FnAZIEll. \Vhen they arc sick, can t hey get a doctor to take ca.re of them? l\Irs. I•[...]s he kno,vs he -can get his 1noncy, and there are a lot of thc1n ,vho are unable to pay. Senator FnAZJF.f:. A doctor will not go out unless he knows he[...] |
| [...]nator l'llAZII,R. No; but you see them ,vhen tbey a.re nt home .. You know how they reacl. l\1rs.[...]l•'Isl-lER. I do not know. Senator 'l'HOMAS. A good many? iVIrs. FISHER. Yes sir. Senator[...]think there were so1ne thiit took their children a.way, ,vho ,vere able to tilke, the1n to the hospi[...]at does he do? Mrs. FISHEii. He is ,vorking iri a sawmill. Senator PINE. ,vhat wages does he get[...]F1sHER. Yes, sir. Senator FnAzIEn. Do you have a garden? Mrs. FisHER. Yes, sir. Senator FnAZIER. And chickens? Mrs. F1sn1:R. I have a fe,v. Senator FnAZIEll. I-Io,v 1nany? l\1rs. FISHER. I have a few. Senator FRAZIER. Do you keep a co,v? Mrs. FISHEil. Yes, sir. Senator[...] |
| [...]- diate vicinity? ·i\'Irs. FrsHEn. I have a sister living close to n1c. Senato1· T n oMAS. Are you acquainted with a good many of the Indians in this vicinitv¥[...]e rnany who are worse? Mrs. FISHEil. I have a, cousin who siivs she can not send her chil- dre[...]She can tell you. Senator 1'HO)CAS. Is there a desire a1nong the Indians to have their children in schoo[...]e1nents of white people. I do not think we found a single Indian thnt testified they did not want t[...]ALFRf:o ,v:in-r,:cnow w,1,s thereupon called as a witness and, after ·being first duly swor[...] |
| [...],vorst real drought; tl11;; year nothing raise~ a_t aH; quite a few of the Indi,1ns fanned snu11l patches. Most[...]for one tl1111g, and then the Government reqtnnng a bond for these renters, they do not want to put[...]t hose are the ones that have the land. There is a lot of fine lnnd clown there on the prairie, as[...]d through the Indian office and having to put up a bond ,vhen they can go outside and rent without putting up any bond. I t rents cheap enouah. '!'hey have a list of the hind. Where there is any cultivated[...]or 5, 6 or 7 or 8 acres of land with it, that is a,vay up high. It seems like they are collecting t[...]the department that any children living ,vithin a 1nile and a half or two 1niles of school s11ould nttend day[...]the books. Senator FR~ZIEn. Are there quite a number of Indian children that do not go[...] |
| [...],vould; I think they would if you would give them a chance and not let it fill up w·ith t,hese oth:e[...]es, sir; they are harder up than I ever saw them. A little ,vhil<: ago_ we used to dra,v a little .annuity from the Gover~rnen,t.1 so1netlung hke $18 or $20 a year, at that time paid to one tribe. I he[...] |
| [...]NS OF INDIANS IN UNITED STA.'.rlsS 6687 ,ve get a little anJ1uity from the State of Ne,v York[...]st 1unounts to about $1.30. Senator FRAZIE11. .A.piece i ~1:r. ,vHrrF.cno,v. Apiece. Senator FnAzr.F.R. A year 1 ~1r. v\'RrrEcno,v. Yes, sir. $850.33 fr[...]p there quite awhile before it f"Ot lost ai;;ain; a.nd now it has been turned over to the Secretary o the Intenor a.nd through hi1n to the agency. Senator FRAZIER[...]. Yes, sir. This yea.r they hold it up until just a little back that ,ve get the 1noney. It is June.[...]r. vVrn1·Ecno,Y. It scen1s as though they wanted a bond for that 1noney before they would send it he[...]it down. I rnyself, and 1ny da.ughter, 1nade out a roll. I got a copy of the last p,iy,nent roll and we 1nade out a new roll. Senator FnAzrEn. .A.ny other statement you want to make to the co1nmittee? 11:r. vV1nTEcno,v. Not right a.t the present ti,ne. ,\re have an attorney here t[...]- tion. '!'here are in these two tracts 220 acres a.piece, or 440 ac-res. It is a late allot,nent, as we call it-. ,ve thought that[...]d allowing us to sell the snrplus land. So we had a. buyer for $600 for one of these tracts, ,[...] |
| [...]• l\fr. A.Nn1n:,vs. I do not think there is,any use 1nade o[...]CRO\V. '!'hat is one tract. One of the tract~ has a little cult ivated land on it, 25 or 30 acres. It had been leased by a party that had the allohnent, but no,v it belongs[...]e1ns as though they do not want us chiefs to have a.nything to do with it. Also, we had so1ne money o[...]y the o,1•ue1'S of the checks and reverted back a.nd we thought it ,vas 'paid into t he fun<l. S[...]uga f und has gone that ,vay. I just found it out a couple of 1nonths ago. Senator FnAzIER. Ho,v 1[...]has r"Onc J:or two or three years and they 1nake a clai1n for their share o the roll, that 1n[...] |
| [...]d out to the Indinns again . and so1nebody 1nade a clai1n, there "' ould be no 1noney to cover 1 t.[...]o1n the Secretary arc that the present lessee is a good renter and satisfactory the Indian. If he is outbid, he has a right to raise his bid lo 1nect the high bid and[...]this last year and then not very !ong ago posted a second list in an en- deavor to bids on other vac[...]got the1n all out of the way yet. He speaks about a bond. 1'he regnlatitons require, and I think r ig[...]luivc any trouble gct(ing uonc!s1nen 1 i\1r. A.NuREws. It is np to the lessee to get his own bonds1nan. "\¥hen a 1nun bids on a piece of land- - Senator FRAzrun. Do thoy hav[...]'ant to go to the t rouble. If they do not hiive a bond and they refuse to pay the 1noney, ,ve have[...]e sarne bond is l'equired. Mr. ANnRJ~\vs. No; a bond is required on a crop lease, but not cash pa id i o advance. S[...]ual homcs1 l',,fr. '\<VHITECnO"'· He is just a ne,v 1nan. I do not kno,v. I have not heard of hi[...]Senato1· FnAzu,:n. '\•Veil, you h11ve had a f,u·1ner before that, have you not?[...]h in hope he will be reinstated, because he " 'as a. very satis- factory man and the people li[...] |
| [...]. I was clerk of the council at that thne and a men1ber of the allot- 1nent con1mittee also. So then ,ve went about trying to find a buyer to buy this land. '\Ve had several differe[...]each year '"e ahYays had an election and elected a ne,v set of chiefs at that tin1e and "'e ,vent a.n d asked if ,ve could hold over .u ntil ,Ye had[...]ar day, but after the 1st day of July there ,vas a council ca.lied an<1 some 10 or 15 met and elected a set of chiefs, but the reason they ,vanted to elect a new chief was they could not buy this land fro1n[...]t is the way our surplus land went. '\ilfe filed a protest to vV:ashington to uot approve -the ne,v[...]rvey. He w11s the buyer for this land and he got a bill through Congress allottino- this lan!l and selling the surplus ,vith a per cent off of that. There were trust funds in v[...]$7,300. We dre·.v that and they claimed we owed a certain per cent of that, ,vhich amounted to abou[...]to buy the land we met in Seneca one time to make a deed. Mr. Harvey had the deed all made out ready[...]no,v anythin~•abo1it it for 10 days. '\Ve filed a protest at Washington through Charles Curtis or had a man sent down to inspect it and he just ca[...] |
| [...]enator FRAZIER. Do you have any trouble gettin.,. a state1nent fro1n the superintendent as to the a1nount of your ,individual funds or tribal fund 1[...]RAZIER. You say ofr. Bar_tholo1new wants to 1nake a state1nent for you people 1 o1r. WHI'l'EC110,[...]When they sold the 40 they sold it out. I t f,as a hig spring on it. I have it right here and there[...]J. "\V. BARTHOLE~rE,v was t hereupon called as a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testif[...]cas and Cayugas. Senat.or FnAzn:n. Jcluve you a ,vritten stittement 1 Mr. Ba11-r1-10LEME,v. O[...]ng to the poor Indians of this county. They, have a fund of $857 that t hey have drawn for several hu[...]paid to the chiefs. Lately they have gotten it in a J?-lltddle and are holcling·i t up in Albany, N.[...]things of that kind. It bas lately been used for a green-corn dance feast or so1nething of tha.t kin[...]·ee of the chiefs, and it ,vas paid that way for a h11n- :'lred or 1nore years. No,v, they ch[...] |
| [...]o have it withdra,vn after,vards. I will furnish a copy of it, if you will allo,v Jne. Senator FnAzii::R. If you ,vant this, we ,vill be glad to have a copy of it put in the record.[...]· 1\-Ir. BARTHOLo~u:,v. Yes, sir. It is a photographic copy of a lette1·. Senator Fn,\zIER. You \\•ill send us a copy 1 l\{r. BAllTHOLEMEW. Yes, sir. That la[...]Ll:)tl:\\·. Harvey. Senator 'I'no,rAs. Then a few da.vs thereafter the ,valnut tin1ber on this[...]fr. BARTMOLE)rEw. ~rcn, I luive the affida.vit of a sit,vmill Jnan. I h:ive an affidavit from one of[...]ated, down belo,v ,vyandotte. Of course, there is a lot of bad land what is left of it. It is nothing[...]t hat it 1night be looked into. 1"Iy jud"1nent 1s a con11nittee should be appointed to look af[...] |
| [...]now much ab~ut it !n ,v nshington. '!'his treaty ~a ye the!n . 7 1niles long and 15 mlies wide. That[...]They did not get what ,vas pro1nised the1n or the a1nount of land. Thev left the1n the poor land on t[...]le of it i l\'lx. BAR1'MOLEMEW. 'fhey tried it a good 1nnny ti1ncs in a la,vsuit. I have record after record of telegra1n[...]t the Goverrunent will h:ive the right to e1nploy a lawyer for them. They have no right to einploy a lawyer. A hiwyer ciin not take a case unless he gets approval hY. the departinent. '.l'he departinent ,vould never iipprove a contract with a la.wyer ,vho was serious in the 1.natter; only such fellows as they were favorable to could ever get a contract through of that kind. I a.111 not one of the favored kind. I never could ge[...]iiins. Senator FnAz.TEn. Have you tried to get a bill throu~h Congress to a.uthorize you to get the Indians into the Court ot[...]here is the proposition I put before then1. I put a,,§(rent many things before the1n. 'fhat is the b[...]di.d we never saw it. Senator FRAzmR. This is a. house bill which passed the House. If you[...] |
| [...]t be any due on th11t proposition, but they have a suit in Albany, N. Y., in which the Indi11ns rec[...]. I ,vent down before Governor ~liller, ,vho had a hearing down there a.n d they a!Jo,ved these Indians he1·0 one-third o·f it, ,[...]hile on that and then they quit paying. Ifere is a state1nent of the co1nptroller do,vn there showi[...],ve are entitled to the money. But there came up a question bet"'een the Senators of Ne,v York and[...]land, as the Senecas ,vere entirely sold out and a.II of them came west excepting those that return[...]pay out of this fund for the use of this land for a number of years. Politicians got hold of it and they got a co1nmittee appointed to make a division and sa.y how much they should pay for this land. That ,vas to be reported to Governor Miller and a notice was given that was to come up. I ,vent do,[...]ur money coming to us at all, although there ,vas a man got up there and said there was no such thing as a Cayuga Indian in the 1Vest, that I did not know o[...]s. last year. After ,ve ca1ne back we got through a resolution authorizing and directing the Co1npt roller of Currency to 1nake a co1nplete audit of the accounts of these New York[...]BAnTHOLE~rE,v. Ifere is the Ne,v York case. I got a docun1ent sho,ving the New York case and the argument sho,ving that these Indians are just as 1nuch a part of the nation as the other. Senator FnAzm[...]e, State of Ne,v York, in the matter of the Ca.yu~a Nation of Indians. It was appealed to the[...] |
| [...]think it is proper for the nation to say that a citizen can not hire his own hnvyer. I may sa.[...]found out in my experience: I have never seen a fraud or an Indian robbed in any ,vayJ shape,[...]d not stand behind the robbers. I do not kno,v of a single case and I know quite a nu,nber of them here. I can na1ne the Peacock[...]as never parted title. 'fhe treaty provides for a title in fee to the me1nbers of the tribe of In[...]to anybody except the United States, but it "' a.s sold, as you see, and the 1noney has ~een dis[...]g it as guardians. The Government clai1ns to be a guardian of these fellows and if all the white fe[...]ed oi1r subjects we are gua.r dians for in such a way we would be sent to the penitentiary 1·ight a.,vay. 'fhe Gov- ern1nent has handled that money in that "'ay a.nd allowed thcin to take that 1noney a.,vay from then1. "\Ve could not do that. If they[...]n connection with heirship it has been found that a. step- son has been found to be the heir of his[...]taken. There is another thing here : vVhere a ,vo1nnn gets title to a very valuable piece of land ovet' in this Osage[...]t Bartlesville and was allowed to be dra.,vn by a lawyer ,vho seems to be representing so1ne[...] |
| [...]vns pa.id into the court's office. No la,vyer had a right to dri,,v that out, and especially the la,v[...]eference to the probate attorney's office, as far a.s I a.m per- sonally concerned, m:iybe it is like going[...]the othe1' one. If you take the ptoba,te attorney a,vay you ,vill get in ba.d. '!'he probate attorney has stood as ii guard over a lot of those things !hat should not have been her[...]Most of them are graduates of schools. ,ve h:ivc a lot of old people. e only ha.ve a fe,v that are incornpetent, as we would ca.ll the[...]robate attorney and his office seerns to me to be a fifth, wheel to the ,vagon. Senator Fl!AZIER.[...]ks here. '!'hey are very poor and there are quite a 11111nbe1' of then1, and he ,vas no 1nan hirnself to leave his farnily here. He ha.cl a. good property over in t.hc Osage Nation n.nd they got a.,vay ,vith it. '!'hey never got anything out of i[...]Torn is standing back there no,v. '!'here is a. ,von1an by the na1ne of Snnston-I do not kno,v ,vhether she ·is alive or not--,vho has been a receptacle for sever-al pieces of land. It looks to inc l ike it just happened to be thn.t she ,vas a, re- ceptacle and "'hen it f"ot in there it ,vould be easily gotten out for a. hundred dollars-i it ,vas "'orth $lO,OOO-so1nebo[...]ld. '!'he old folks ,vill tell you. She never had a child in her l ife, but she got t he land just th[...]. Then there is the l\1:aude Lee l\ilud case, a special inatter I "'ant to speak about. Senat[...]f land, or about that 1nuch that ,vas being sole! a,va.y frorn her. I ,vas gone several days and spent about $40. I was foolish enough to come back a.nd turn in a, fee for $1GO. Then Billy Sin1ms tu1:ned 1ne down[...]n for Judge George Harris I " 'oulcl not have got a cent. |
| [...]would have been $10,000. I turned it in for just a smn.11 pittance and I 00ot turned do,vn.[...]. Senator Tnol\rAs. f suggest you take a course in the Indian business. ?i{r. BARTHOLEM[...]y bucked 1ne out of the other matter. 'fhen I got a. bill through the supreine court. I got a writ of prohibition in the supre,ne court and aft[...]hey ca,ne down here and she was kidnapped, stolen a·way aJ1d min·l·ied, and that is the end of tha[...]here is what I ,vant to tell you. Before she went a.,vay she ,vas in my office. This is a very pit iful case. She had, for on,:i thing, ecz[...]d man. She said that she wished she did not hitve a cent in the world so she could play around like o[...]id that to me, tha.t she ,v1shed she did not have a cent; she \\•anted to st,iy ,vith her grandparents at a.JI times. . So that day[...]5,000,- 000. They pay those folks the stun of $10 a 1nonth a.nd then they paid $50 a rnonth dul'ing the ,var. As to her, she had a nice pony, saddle, bridle, and bug1,ry. 'l'hese -[...]cus- t ody that dity, but the constable took her a,vay from us that night. So when the 1noney came t[...]onth? 1£r. BAR'l'HOL'Ell!E,v. Yes, sir; '$100 a 1nonth; $1,200 a. year. She is ve1·y wealthy. Senator 'l'Ho::n[...]only hearsay, ,vhat I tun telling you now; but I a,n infonned th:tt she has given two other orders s[...]yone else 1 ~Ir. BAll'l'IIOL't~tEw. Well, just a. few clays a.fter I went over and s1ived tluit hind nnd got $100 f rorn hirn for that work he 1illowed a fee .o f $17,500, just exactly what a Congress1na11 draws as a salary for t,vo years. l-Ie drew that in a few da.y s a.fter that, $17,000, and never |
| [...]TIONS OF IN'l:>IANS lN UNITED STATES had done -a thing in his life concernin& the child, because I[...]he had been electea to Congress. |
| [...]UNITED STATES 6699 Senator FRAZIER. A.re you fa1niliar with it¥ Mr. ANonE,vs. Not[...]Simms ,vas her last guardian but she has not ha'a a guardian since she became of age. She has been d[...]lo,vance does she have? l\1r. ANDJ!E\VS. $80.0 a 1nonth. Sena tor 'fIIOl\IAS. Does she have a vast estate 1 Mr. ANoni:,vs. No; not any such[...]e records 1 Mr. ANDm:,vs. Not in regard to the a1nount of n1oney she has at the present time. ~[...]. ANDRE"'S. Part of it. Mr. BARTHOLEME,v. Only a part of it; the 111oney is at the Osage agency.[...]Is that all there is of it now 1 It needs looking a.fter, because I know a time when it was over a million dollars. Mr. ANDRE\VS. I would doubt v[...]. Senator FRAZIER. It was a · good deal higher thnn it is at the present tim[...]nce than she has right no\\• or not. 1Vfr. I3A1rrHOLElt>:,1•. She has got 1nore n1oney[...] |
| [...]ever given you an order for the $1001 l\1r..A.NOREws. If she would 1nake a, "'1·itten request to pay the $100, all right[...]er to s01nebody in which they sa.i d if she n1ade aa,vare of the :fact there has been a long-standing policy an unauthorized expenditure[...]w whether it was tlll of the,n or not. There were a lot of 'out- standing clain1s of the 1nerchants[...]netimes you do not and then all iit once there is a change of |
| [...]IN UNITED STATES 6701 ad1ninistration or a change in superintendents co1nes in; that this su[...]ails to pay the claims. Do you not consider thitt a. bad influenc.e or exa.mple to set before the Ind[...]t hiin to pay tl1at out of his allowance? Mr. .A.NDRE,vs. '\¥e try to, but we can not force him to. Senator THOl\IAS. '\~'e hear a lot about conspii:acies in the Govern- 1nent service; I can point to a good 1nany cases ,vhere it appears that the consp[...]. No; I do not think so. Senator 1'HoM,i.s. As a result of that p ractice 1 Mr. ANORE\VS[...] |
| [...]I will furnish that. Seuatol· FRAZIER. Make a ,vritten statement and we will have it incorpora[...]cused.) Senator Fn,1zn:n. I have been luinded a lettel· from .Allen C. John-. sont. together wi[...]Stat. 751-752), and also has ceased to exist as a tribal school. Moreover, believing we are ent[...]Therefore, for the reason abo,;e specified, we a re asking at the hands of your committee a favorable reeommcndntion for n legislath·e act.loo by Congress so as to consummate a snle of the land mentioned to the Gover nment and we arc very desirous thnt aa favorable action. · (The following correspondence was introduced into and 1nade a par't of this record :)[...]MY D&Aa FRIEND: On receipt ot your letter of a · few days ago J had a per- sonal conference with the Commissioner of I[...]of this conference, I filed with the commissioner a letter from me t ranS)lli ttlng your letter and[...]points out that this land bas been nppraised nt a value of $9,766. If the Wyandotte people are satisfied with this appraisal I will be glad to Introduce a bill authorizing the appropriation and pu[...] |
| [...]certain from the tribal council, If there be such a council, or from 'the Intllans who may express their wishes at a meeting caned for the purpose, whether they would[...]he tribe own's this la'nd in fee simple but under a restriction on a llena'tlon. · , , ,[...]O.n·xc» ·oF INDIAN, A11,--4.1ns, ,, , ,[...]nd' on which. the Seneca lx>ardlJ!g rs.cli~!. ll)a)?t 11~)ocatedf..is' lierelly a~lin?wl~'dged.·[...].t60· The boardlpg . se}looJ.. ,a~,, l?~-esent_ )°i)1own; !IS the'..'Senecah scllb[...]on,- ivns opg\jl!l,IIY opened ' about '.1871 1Hl' a /Juls'slon schdol under the direction of the. Qunkgrf I For a-'tim'e the 'ihstitiltlon received partial support from the Go,r.einm~nt'I bu~' «iwu~ '!A~ (l'unkerli. withdr'e~-: f~om their connection with the Institution aa reservation for school and agency use. The f>oai[...]ttes have attended the school for the reason that a'mple public-sehool facilitie-s have ·been avail[...]•· h , ·, ·•·• t r .•111 a letter dated Noremb,er . ~.9, 19?,41 the 'office[...]tribe o,,;ns · the tnncl lu fee Simple, but With a re~trictlOl\ On 'n_J'le11a\.lo11 . ' ' '· 1 1 ' ., ' 1 • • 011 June 13, 19~6, a ·geuel'ar/ll,eetil)g 'ot·'i lle,'t rrn~ wns 'li[...]members of the business co111m1tt11e Pl'<isei\i, A comtllittee' wns a'j)polnfoh · to npprnlse the. land. This 1[...] |
| [...]l~, P.!~iii, during tb~ pedod of Its operation ns a boarding sc))ool, ll,n s:.b~-en ,kept in ,r~p'1_[...]h describes it Is nttached ,thereto as,)')xh,iblt A. I would like YO.II to giYe a little thought to ,that. l wnnt also to ca\! yo11[...]mit Its J,eing attached to. an llPJ)ropriatlon as a rider. At the ti.me It was being passed they fn[...]Record also shows. The bllf was being ban<Jled by a Missouri Congressman whose first n.ame was Tom,[...]cli$trict andt the Federal attorney said I had a good case, an1l ga,-e J\le a letter to Dnuglierty. I asked Daugherty to Join \ls-1/ut it was ~oln, E:11ns., ban,kers-and afte r •a <:onference with Curtis be ~efu~ed to have n•[...]o <lo wltb It. -Judgci,V,il- Jiams ,said I made a .good cnsc but used .the law or La Chtt se which[...]e chiefs ancl all .the Incllnns .w ere present hf a meet- Ing and voted to use wbatever was necessa[...]!l•attorney •to take $12,500 fot the use of a $16,000 sale. They would riot let me have enough[...]and t11e attorney fees In that case were allowed a nd the State legislature of New York macle an n[...]s got an their mdney, but the Indians never got a dime. That Is another splendid example of[...] |
| [...]ew) that ' you 'Senai:ors should insiSt ' ul)On ' a special commission to In· · Yestlgate' 1these[...]of Senators nrul'. they provide my expenses and a small reintlneratlon I wo11ld ,\p,1_JCnr before a . commission 'and jvould sbo'I! the rear conditio[...]'£bis is not the fault of our Go,·ernment as a governl)lent, b11t because of the- political mi[...]year to the New York Jncllans. In my Exhibit A you will find these words, "the $202.000 belongs[...]Oklahoma, respectfully submit the:·following as a lis t ot· subjects ~ve desire to be taken up by the Court qf . elalms un1ler H. R. 7036, wlilth would a11thorlze tlfe Court of Claims to -adjudicate the[...]!d Jetter ls attached hereto ancl marked "Exhibit A." . Six Nations o[...] |
| [...]ITED STATES. Under treaty of July 20, 1831, a1,d treaty of Dece,µber )!9, 18321 have not 1/[...]ndians. Treaty dated December 29, ~832, was a t,·eaty giv!ng ' back to ,t be United States[...]therefo1·; that any sectlon of it would not feed a co,y ; and .other promises of money and conces[...]te school prope,ty, claiming that same was built 'a nd for many yej,.r~ mniu- tnlued out of the Se[...]tion, and we ask adjustment therefor. Also, a tract of land of 4 ,acres was set apart for a graveyard nt/d church and ;i,J~ce c11lled an.d known ..ns council b,ouse, wbicb, u.ugei; some 1µa'n_l1j1!latio1\ and ~nti1out the consent of the[...]" · , Also, lands referred to in a letter of. E. B. Mcl'ltt, 11clclressc~ to ij, B,[...]eto attached, ma rked "ExJ.1ibit B," an<l made a part bereof. , Des[...]acres of Janel were sold for ~16,000, and paid D. A. Ba)"Vey ·tor serv~ces as atto~·ney for the[...]hereto attached, n;iarked "Exhibit C," 11nd ,mnq~ a part hereof.[...]attacbecl be1·eto, marked "Exhibit D," and made a part hereof. Also letter marked "Exhibit E."[...]EXHIBIT A .[...]licse · Indians. If you will state your question a little more definitely tile office will e[...] |
| [...]aty, Thomas L. Ogden and ' .rosepb Fellows, tb,e 'a$$1gn~· of the State of ~assnchusetts, !)ave purc[...]of the said Seneca Nation, to certain lani!OJ -by a deed of conveyance a duplicate of which is hereunto annexed ; and wher[...]ointed by the Seneca Nation, In the ·presence of a United States commissioner, here- nfter to be app[...]ohn Crow, of Turkeyford, Okla., in refer- ence to a tract of -land desc1·lbed as t11e N. ½ of the S[...]receipt of the same. · · A COJ>Y of this letter is inclosed for youl'[...] |
| [...]·' W11a.ldotte, ' Okla•., ·Ja,/J ary, 1920. U>.~i.uas1[...]urplus land l>Y the chiefs ot said tribe. '.l'bis a~t. d id not prqvlde for. nny su pervision ~o be[...]l.ld Trlbe Mr. D. ____ to _______ A. Harvey tor services us attorney for the Sen[...]r, 1901-2 _______ ___________________ _ 20.00 A . L . Spicer, services as ciet·k of council, 190[...]----------------.--- ----- - ----- 7.50 D. A. Hn rvey, recording acts of council in Uni[...] |
| [...]eived your letter of November 13, 1919, lncloslng a, communiC'!tipi> from .'.(o)\n Crou: (appar!lntly[...]~cssi<jn they,<;o'nsente/1 and agreed to,accep~ "a trn~~ ~f l~nd situated oo and adjacent to tlie ,n[...].. "The Senecas cede t~ the United S~tes. a ,strip ,of .land on the north s)de of. tbel.r pr[...]ls do not show that the land was dis1)()sed of to a "compani•," and tl1ere appears' no ground .or q[...]south." After tbe cession of approximately 20,000 a-cres comprising the, no,·thern portio.n,. the re[...]-A8Si8l<uit Oomm.issioner.[...]12, 1892. . ~ou request a stateJ?len~·sbowlng the amount of money b[...] |
| [...]mixed Seueca un(l Sb(lwnee fimtl the Se'dntors ·a,re'entltled to and tbe amount of Interest thereon. In 'reply, ''tlie''1ollowfhgl1si a•·s'fl1tement of permanent -annuities, with ann[...],11831,. to be anima.Uy''l?aid ' to tliem •as ' a11 nntlonal 1'fnnd, t'Q be CfPCOded ,by ,tltem fo[...]onds of 1881, yielding the sum of $36,450, making a total of $40,944.37 lnv(\sted In 1881 Unlt~d States bonds. Subsequently a small amount of their funds was invested In the s[...]olled on the census roll of 1851. It appears that a daughter, Martha E . Callabnn, was enrolled on th[...]tbe Indian Territory. John Callahan was kllled in a battle at I ndian Grove 'In the Stafe of Illinois[...]fort to get on the roll, and In one Instance paid a fee to a lawyer who was to put them on the roll, bu[...] |
| [...]' f 9ll. · 1 , ,. , • ,; .1 ,, , I . , ,a J . , , I desire to say to the connulttee t[...]I . I .-, If. '.(be1·e,ls a large fat),lllY pf children ·l!l1d grandchildren[...]ake some k)nd of 'reco,pmen\Jatlqn p1·ovldlug, a way foR flt/! eurollmeilt. , It w.o uld be uece[...]union were1born nine chlldreo. lllrs. <;:nnnefax a't , the ti.me of enrollment- li\led•'ut "Wlnnew[...]s. FRANc~s CRo,v '":I~ ~l;ler~upon ciilled as a witness and,. after, be4'ig first d11Iy swo1:n,[...]i\>Irs. CRo,v. Slie ,vas' at ho,me. She was on a visit. ,. Senator FnAz[...] |
| [...]. 1'.JN:l.TED STATES Senator PINE. Have they a child? , 1 ·[...]...: ; |
| [...]RESOL"OTION \\lberens, a duty •rests up0n every citizen (that of interes[...]1 |
| [...]ITIONS OF INDIANS IJS' UNITED ST:\TES lease 11t a royaJty ot 10 per cent, that n 160-nc.r e .tract ot land ownc~l, by a Qua- |
| [...]inie of: lier maniage she was under guardilu1ship a11d Mr. \Villiam Simms, United1 S1ntcs probate att[...]August, 1925, under the instruction of Mr. Blair, a1• investigator from the office of the ludinn commissione1·, Mr. Burke, he started wilh bis wjte, ·on a trip to California, aud[...]ernment bonds and Treasury cel'tiflcates. She was a fnll-bloocl fndinu, and the department heh! her p[...]Gordon and I went to Miami, Okla., In response to a• telephone call from o·ue Vic Wilson, and from[...]him. · Ou the. 0th day of May, 1926, a decree of annulment of marriage was secured by Vi[...]day of June, 1926, Maud' Lee Mudd wns marrie(l to a ma11 representing him- self to J>.e the ~other of[...]19th day of January, 1929, Vic \VUson was held In a preliminary hearing on a cha1·ge of perjury in connection with the securi[...]In the superior court or Pinal County, Ariz., and a copy is on ft1e ·1u the office or the dlstl"ict[...]· Under the Arizona statute a judgment or decree of dlYorcc becomes absolute after the expiration of n year. ,v1tbln a few days of the expiration of a yenr I discovcrNl that a divorce or nunuhnent hil.tl been JU-o<:urc[...] |
| [...]Wilson, that he made several attempts to procure a divorce under circumstances that would not disclo[...]l'be statute of Arizona prohibits the marriage of a white person with an "Indian, nnd in order to mor[...]his and their affidavits that they were Indians. A warrant has been issued for tile parties fro,n tl[...]as knowingly n party to the conspiracy, but being a ,•ery ignorant and Illiterate Indian, was duped[...]ied an affidavit 1n court that Maude Lee Mudd was a resident of the Stnte of Arizona,- and also that[...]elled or coerced lnto living for three years with a man who Is not Iler husband, and tbat funds have[...]ave liidden her from her husband and friends, and a!so funds have been furn.lshed this gang to light[...]hird in the estate of Lucy Lotson Perry, who bacl a certificate of competency as follows: One orlglii[...]· Mary Mudd was a restricted Indian, part Osage and part Quapaw; ·· ' The richest property owned by Maude Lee l\fudd i.s a mini.Jig property in the l\1iaml district of Okla[...]given her to or left her with her grandparents as a little child. She lived with them at Wyandotte, Okla., but after her Inheritance a guardian was appointed In the person of Wi[...] |
| [...]t court of Ottawa County, Okin., In the nature of a l1abeas corpus seeking custody of ·•l',laude L[...]J.lhe Supreme Court of Oklahoma thereafter Issued a writ of prohibition to the dist rict court, and t[...]ved lllnude Lee Mud<l was taken from the State In a car driven by Chris Bomberry, brother of the step[...]alesmau In the town of Miami. He had demonstrated a c«r several times to this Indian girl, bad gotte[...]rsons who mnde·such their occupation. He knew t11a't this girl was not Ill good hands, and w11en she[...]! welfare. · · ' A day or so after she disappeared from l\llami •h[...]and at the last minute the ,v1L~ons appeared with a note from Mrs. Bomberry telling l\laude that she[...]t when t.be day after their arrival in Californi.a Goxdon found that he had to .driYe to Los[...] |
| [...]l'iJ!IJl<l·,))•l(Jrgoiie ~ack ·10;OJ.;labon1a 1w\th he, p,nents, w)lo hnd come for l).e.r., . , Gordo11 rel,\IJ't1.ed,•Jmm.ecu,1teli•,to)Ok)aho)!l.a1went! to, the narents and dema!)ded t)Je glr!,[...]. ~Ve bnve 11e,•en b,een able' ,to do Ibis,. a~ we could not l)nd b!\l', ,although ":e employed[...]he !Indb1n ,Depnr_t- llle11t, 011d1nft.e 1·· a year .t o ,the ,J)epartment .of, Jn~ti~e; nsklng[...]nd, 1 we11t· to MinmJ, OklR.\ in xespouse. to a telephone cnll from Vic Wilson, and fron1 Miami w[...]ctumce. , GordOll'• l'e fused to go with hi111 a.nd Stnt~d thnt ,he wns 1 n.o t going to~bc · a pany to robbiui; n girl. He urg~d \Vilson . to[...]" , On the 5th day ot May, •1926,,a ,lecree or annuhnent .of ,narriage was secured[...], ,l'!Iaude Lee l'!ludd·Gor<lon was lllnRrled to a man -r epresenting ·h.ln.1self to• be the bro[...]he 19th of January; 1929, Vic \Vilson was held in a preliminary hearing ·on aa cop)• is also ,in Ille• In the office· of th[...]f ~fr. Gordon was wllll.n g to enter Into ·s uch a mutter. \Vhereupoo, he left the office ot Mr. Bl[...]client, conferred frequently with M1·. Blair, ns a t that time we be- lieved that the depart[...] |
| ~ URVEY'_OF CONDITitiN'S 'OF I~D(A'NS IN UN·ITED 1STATES ~719 i11vestlg~(c t11em1 lnnsn1uch' a.! Ma11cle ' Lee i i,i~d-Go1\l~1l · wli:s :!Jel11[...]rn; thilt .she was 11e,•er · allowed to hn;e a conversation with any person 'mif 6f tbe''p reso\[...]'and ilwestigator for t11e <lCpHr tnrent. nncl a s Inte as Match 4, 1929! I sent· t.o ~1,·. 13ur[...]d was fully' co11sclo11s of the step I was Inking a nd willingly entered into lbe marital reln[...] |
| [...]v of June, 192'51 personally appeared before n\e, a notary public ill and for the county of Craig, St[...]r; that about 10 o'clock the same ev,ening he was a t a botel In Pittsburg, Kaus., whieh be thinks is the[...]l he saw Vic WHson bring Maude Lee Mudd-Gordon to a 1·oom on that floor; that as Vic -Wilson started[...]bat Vic \Vilson told her that she would be put In a convent if she didn't do as he said and took .her by the nrm and led her into the room; that in a short .time the light was turned otr. AJllnnt f[...]'Notary Public, T11l8a Co«ntv, Okla. . Oount,v of Qltawa, 88:[...]or Got·don or with Gordon I would uot · receive a cent from hill! in |
| [...]J. H. TAYLOB, NOtOR'1/ P11l>lio. (a&AL.) AFfIDA[...](SEAL.) A. J. LAMPKIN, 0<1U?1.ty Olerl,,•.[...]F OKLAHOMA, Com•tv of Otla<oa, 88: A. B. AHcott, of lawful age, and having been sworn[...]walked over to the soda fountain noel each drank a Coen Coln and after having a drink we walked out Ln front of the store where b[...]s ure got the money," and at this be pulled quite a sized roll of bills from his POCket and ex[...] |
| [...]\ got. her dow11 here." ,ve ' fali<e'd also about a fine be paid over at the c<iurtbous~ •)lid 'the[...]lch sbe has been provided. I am now engaged In a check of this estate, and find that In every coun[...]a and Kansas from which I have to date t·eceived a report upon the property of i\lnu<le Lee Mudd-Go.rdon, a condition ot gross neglect and dlssipa. tion or t[...]uardian in this estate. ,ve have recentlv asked a statement from the Commissioner of Indian Affairs[...]. CHAS. li. BURKE, Commissioner of It1<l·i an A{fa,ira, 1Va\91t;,iqt o1>, D. C. DEAB Sm:. I hn[...]d ~Ham! ln the case of Gordon v. Gordon, wbJch Is a petition filed to set aside n decree ' of aunuhn.[...]he girl from her husband, Earl -Gordon, to secure a divorce or annullllent of marriage from him, and[...]this girl's estate and to use this girl's body as a pawn for so doing. · '!'Ills case will be trie[...]o.r my client, Ea rl Go.r.doo, to ta!<e this girl a,yay troni the gang thnt is holding her. Earl G[...]nd. not only us tl1e husband of ttfo girl, but as a citizen or the Uniled States, that she be[...] |
| [...]IANS IN UNIT!jD S'J;'~TES 67f8 I~ a private talk which I hnd wltb this girl's mother,[...]his marriage to Earl E. Gordon .t,Jiat Vic ,vnson a11d his wife took an apurtm~nt In one section of[...]· Mr. Burke, this case Is a disgrace to 0111· clvlllzallon, nnd <lo you not[...]guilty of such• nn outrnge )ler pctrnted UJ)()n a young girl and who could be punishing that outrag[...]uld be posslb\e to have auy operative of your der,a1t- ment check this man up to see whethe•· or n[...]Le:e Mudd Gordon, now.1Wilson, amounts to almost a full confession of a con- spu·ncy to loot the girl's estate aud to us[...]into further nod care.fully con- sidered i,•lth a view of determining as to the quj!Stlon of[...] |
| [...]reciated. nnd on yesterday I bad the pleasure of a con.(erence with Doctor Blair und ,,Judge Humphre[...]he preliminary steps 1n the conspiracy to obtain' a, dlvo1·ce for Maude Lee Mudd Gordon nod marry h[...]ished to Judge Humphreys nnd to Doctor Blair cncb a copy of the dep0sltlons taken 1n Joplin ln this[...]nspiracy, and I have further taken 01> wltb theu1 a charge wb1Ch I believe should be pressed under th[...]and Influence. I have .further related to them a contract which was slgne<l in F lorence, A.riz., and affirmed by Vic Wilson and his wife, wh[...]tes all of these Indians, the Bomberry's, I mean, a famil)• by the nnme of Nelso.11 in Florence, Ar[...]d out just \\;ho he is, and whether he is in fact a brother of Vic Wilson, and whether or not he was[...]th•e of the OS11ge Tribe in which this girl bas a head right, to attend the trial in Arizona in Sep[...]er the 15th of this month, ancl that he will take a copy of the deposition which I have banded to hin[...]ATHRYN "AN LEUVEN, Oklalwm,a, Oil•y, Oki«. DEAR MADA}! : This will ackno[...]tion \\1th the prOCCl)tl· lugs ln .Arizona to,· a1J annulment of the decree of divorce graht[...] |
| [...]could ~ successtully mnlntalned under tlie Milm\ A'.~t which ' you suggest, In view of the marriage.[...]equest of• John Crow, n full-blood Seneca l11(1!a11, and mater- nal grandfather of Maud Lee Gordon[...]dd's father dled during her early infancy, and as a result tbereof Maud Lee Mudd was given over to t[...]. -0. PuUerton, and Wal•mon Dobson bad acquired a lease to this allotment at a royalty of 5 per cent to the Indian owners, the a[...]ing prope1ty. This lease was later followed by a sublease to t11e Eagle-Piche,· Lead Co., a corporation, on a royalty basis of 12 1/2 per cent, making aa Missouri corporation, which latter company beeame[...]rther the Inform11tion of the umle1·signecl that a large bonus amount was pald by the Velie Mines Co[...]Beek, jr., each made and lilecl applicntlons for a Lead nod zlile mining lease covering the R[...] |
| [...]o1u1lly appeared before Commissioner Burke nt ·w;a_sblng[j>,1.1., p. q,, and urged the awarding of a lease on this property to tb~, Y~lJe Jl!(ne§,.li[...]Iines Corporation having agreed to the payment of a royalty a of 12½ per cent; and as result of this hearing[...]son, or bis department, to w1·lte up an award of a lend and zinc mining lease on the Robert Lottso[...]eks, representing the Velie ,Mines Corporation, a1ipenred before Commls.~iouer Burke, lo , connection with the securing of a lease on tbeb Lottson prOJ)Crty, and was· assu[...]1tse on . \hts J)roperty. Meauwbil~. T. A. Chandler, ex;l\f,e1uber of Cong,·ess, and n s't[...]r William Slm111s, guardian o! Maud Lee Mn/lei, a mi_nor, an<1, 1,y~ile a~ting in thjs ca11ac\~)' (drawing a fee of $17,500 per am)11m) appeare~ before Com,pl[...]n, D. C., and successfully urged the app,roval of a lead and ziuc mmlng lease on the Litts on, land, car1·ymg a royalty of 10 per cent and a • ' •[...]n 1·oyalty of 12¥, per cent, which re1>rese11t$ a loss· lo the Lottson heirs, of which Maud Lee[...]st wby Commissioner B urke, upon the urging of T. A. Chnucller, nt the time acting as attorney for the gua rdian of Maud Lee ll!udcl, 11 minor , nt a fee of $17,500, should make n gift approl< imat[...]anding. It may be of interest to state that a few mouths previous to tl)e awarding of the Lot[...]adjoining the Lottson property, were leasing al a royalty of lo per cent on zinc, 17½ pei· cent on lead, and a bonus of $100,000 per quarter section. Yo[...]r of Messrs. Beck et :l,l. and the execution of a new lense to George W. Beck, Jr., mining operatio[...]of the new lease to George \V. Beck, jr., but at a royalty of 10 1>er cent plus an additional 2½[...]lush•ely proven and mn~· continue to remaln a question of ol,)inio11. However. there coulcl be[...]ich the operator was required to pay. It is a cu1·lous commentari• that during the period or[...]. Beck, Jr., he was quite vlgo1·ous ·i11 undert,a1$1ng to expose the whys and wherefores[...] |
| [...]· expendH tures under this gunrdlansblp reflect a disbursement oru noney, of t11is minor Indian gi[...]al 1>e11eOt, but to other sources. 'fhey, .reveal a condlttop. )itioc~lilg ,\to men, qf eyen cOmltJ.p[...]ty, ,!ll)d yet the. sal!'-e were the result ?,f ·a probnfe administration by' the United iStates' ll[...]gned Is absent, noel bas bi;en for'; ,l\e'eks J,)a)!t;, oue' day It ,Is rumorl!jl she Is In Arizona a prisoner, the next \n & ,orndo, dhd so on. lt ls'[...]er whereabouts, aud bas been required to continue a probate hearing In the hope of ber return. Is not[...]ed States v. Ap_Qle et al. (292 Fed. at 939) with a few minor modifications. In that case ~ir. Justic[...]say, however, tbat tbe record In this case shows a plundering of Benja,ml~ Quapaw shocking to those[...]contracts, the building of J1otels, garages, and a useless refinery. Had the Government not come to bis aid, it Is appnrent from the evidence that within a sbort time be would have bad nothing left except[...]J erusalem to Jericho anti fell amoog thieves bnd a mild financial experience compared with that of B[...]uperlnten1lent Qunpnw Agency, Afton, Okin. T. A. Chandler, Tuls.~. Okin. J. Gro,·er S[...] |
| [...]'> 1 DEAR MR. BUBKE: I a.m In recel1>t of yo4r letter of January ;i In[...]I will very much appr~late It If you wUI send me a ·copy ot the <lepartment's decision In the Ale,[...]ning to t,he Lucy Lots.on Pe1·ry m,uter and as a result of such cxax:oinatlon I feel t11at ,you l1[...]November 15, 1924, Mr. Sinims transmitted to you a clra!t of the proposed settlement between bbusel.f, as guardia n of Maude I.ea Mudd, and Samuel A. Perry. In bis letter transmitting said draft he[...]case there has been presented to you for approval a !ttlpulntion for settlement of Maud's i.nbel'ited[...]ud Lee Mudd case. I have not been advised of such a stipulation but understand that some kind o! a compromise Is uow In prog.-css and will perhaps be worked out in a very short time. As soon as this has been recelvecl the stenographer will make up a copy and send over to you." From the foregoin[...]f Delaware County appro,·ed lt, ·and ·even on .a da te 10 days thereafter, said county judge had not e,•en been advised of such a stipulation and only had an understanding that some kind of a compromise was in progress which would be worked out In a very short time. But the representat.ion that he[...]thought you might call, on ~Ir. Simms and obtain a copy." I respectfully call your attention to[...]\ot have beeu confused wlt11 the decision In t11e A.lex Mudd case. But the etrect ·of that release I[...]tion in the i1aud Lee ~!udd guardianship matter." A,m I -not justlftecl by the foregoing in saying th[...]t It was wholly unwat·ranted by him a's[...] |
| [...]18, 1024, Mr. Rogers, the ,1tton1cy for Sllmuel A. Perry, wrote u Jette r to Mr. Meritt in which be[...]nfnir to me and lllY client. I should have ba<i a cbnnce to reply to the stutemeut above quoted as[...]ase, tor the reason that in each case there ,vas a disputed Issue of fact regarding the establishment of a common-law marriage on wholly different fncts and[...]an<l wl101Jy different case. F urthermore, It Is a false stnteme.ut. I a11pcarcd in the Schoonover case solely for the pu[...]sive of the Perry case because Perry relied upon a common-law u,arriage. llut iif the court should r[...]in the Perry case were sufficient to ~onstltute a common-Jaw marriage. lt also left undecided a number of other questions of law pte~ented in th[...]generally" and indi- cated tlrnt he would secure a copy tbert-of for Mr. Rogers " If it was of any s[...]Judge Lyons should offer to furnish to Mr. Rogers a written opinion which ",vas not supposed to ~e pu[...]rs in turn furnisbed it to ~Ir. Me,·ltt, the unf.a irncss of tll is corresl)Ond• euce to me and my[...]nsideration of !lie Perry case with the hope that a decision therein favorable to Mr. Uogers· client[...]m being urged to settle Lucy Lotson Perry case on a basis of one-third t(! ,Perry. ,MY attorneys do n ot'a1iprove. Do you ndvlse such n settlement?" · On the same· day he received a reply thereto as follows: "Lucy Lotso[...] |
| [...]ll!r. Sl.mms submitted for your consideratlo'n ' a ucl. u11prova) the propo~ec'i · s~_ttlem~nt between him and Snmuel A. Perry, o,1d be recelyed, uud~r date ot Nov·embe[...]r to decline to ndvlse Alex Mudd on the matter of a proposal o! settleme;1t mnde to him, nncl then g[...]lbg the brief of the s upren1e ·court Is either a reckless estimate by Mr. Si.mms or n deliberate f[...]ot k,1ow what the cost of printing the brief was, a mere inquiry on bis pnr t nt my office wou[...] |
| [...]ty to discuss It and reply to it before It bceame a mat• ter of evidence· for \lie consideratio[...]her previous occasion bad they ever alluded to a con't1act 'o:t c'ommo,, law or Indliin-eustom1 ma[...]pted to give tlreir own explanaUo,n of said en)a·r gelnent upon their torm'e'r testimony and it w[...]nation of the matter with bis version of It iu a secret affidavit. This bolstering up of the credi[...]me and prejudice to the rights of Alex Mudd to a fair and impartial consideration of his case. By[...]fluenced as to the merits of the case and also le.a d to the co1ivlction that I bad conceded my case as lost as a result of the Schoonover dceisiou . Furtber- m[...]W(l~hington, D. a.: It is reported here tbnt decision has been r[...]opy of decision? Understand that Simms and Wallen a.-e leaving to-night for Washington to confer wit[...]11 to the matter whatever. and I bel!eve lie has a personal Interest therein. I pro- ,test ag[...] |
| [...]not understand It. The facts are ' that there was a case Involving an estnte of one Alex l\Iudd, whic[...]n that day. The next day was New Years. Yesterday a copy of the decision was malled to you and other[...]Waslld11{lton, Ja,.,,a,·v 81, 19115. Mr. 0. L . RIDER, .d.tl01'1'CV a,t La,o, Vit1ila, Okla.[...]nsferred to tl!e minor one-twelfth of the estate, a speclftc declaration was attached to the ,,pproval of the stipulation to the effect that tbc a &-reement referred to bnd no consideration whatever in rendering a decision In the case. that having been bnsecl upo[...]CHARLES Goor>EAGLE was thereupon called as a ,vitness and, after being first duly sworn[...] |
| [...]uapn.w Tribe. : Senator FRAZIEI!. Do you have a. state1nent you ,vant to 1nake, ~1:- Goodea ale[...]on these Indians. Prio1: to that ti1ne I had had a little difficulty with the depar t1nent through[...]otment the Quapaw Council organization, with Mr. A. vV. A.brain as the benefactor and promoter of an allot-[...]to have 'an allotment back in the nineties. I was a 1nere boy tnen, going to school in the Quiipaw N[...]he depart- 1nent's supervision. I was living at P a,vnee, Okla,, at that tilne. I ret urned in 1924. 'fwo of my brothers were here' and a sister was here i1t· n 1neeting. ,ve got together and tall,,ed about our inter~t in this estate. A good pQrt,ion of' this esti1te ,vas nQt restricte[...]ties that are not restricted. ~fr. Walker told us a •fib;. that they ,vould' have to wait on accoun[...]nco1npetent •Indian, and the younger ,ister was a 1minor at that' time. i\-Ir. Walker . told us t[...]uld not be turned over to nny of us. I told him I a1n living up there o.n one of the places and I am[...]nce then the taxes have accrued on this property. A wire fence was built around this 180 acres[...] |
| [...]Y by, the .neighbors, .l suppose. There is not a )Yire fence· around there. now. :We ~o ,not k[...]e mattei; of selling the mothers ,esta.te, or, a portion of it 12.0 ac.res.. I ~ay say there are t[...], , , ,, Senator FRAZIER.. Have.you a. probate attorney J n this county¥ 1 Mr. G[...]hem ,eJliaminers oi~eritance. ':fher,e is a. special man here, but they, ~o not. .stay ,here[...],, Mr. ANoRE,vs. No; he-is not a member of our personnel; no. , .. Senator FRAZ;a.µt pl;lav~ you , ever ~lk&l to this exawiner of[...]\;1;r.,R)1oads anµ told him th,e ,si~l\ntio~, th.a t the lan.d. was n9t dr.awing 1u1y revenue, bes[...]nt~resteJl,ip Francis ,Go9deagle's estate, Ol.l a portion of, it I was losing m~ney. I,t seems as thoug~ the dep,a,rtment is not rlooking ·after th'at part tli!lt is not pr,oducing a~y royalties.from the mineral~, lead ·11nq~iJ\C f[...]after the fal'.m part of ·1t. They are loo~l)g a:(ter the lead and zinc mining end of it only. So I told1him ~h~l'e was a great valul!,ti_o n there and I was willing .to take' a ·gamqijng chance there, and dispose of t4~ land at the price we were offer~/:/-: Mr. ;tihoads wrote me .a nice letter .11nd told ·me to refer to tl\e lqcl[...],1 Last April I mape a ~rip, ~ lWl!,Shingtol), D. Q. I went befo,re the[...]thing in ,the way of rent.als, has, been acyruing a,nd• a portion of the tnxes bas .accru,cd and 'We )la.'ie , lost , a goocl. por- . tion of_ our estate. 'l'he Goverrun[...],. us ha1ve supe.rvisiol1, oye~· it. 1V'e milcle-a.n,other application for re1noval of r!)s[...] |
| [...]ES 6735 here notified us there was a lease to be signed, and J told hirn we would[...]" not consider signing a lease until we got this 1natter through. Senato1· Fnazn:n. What do you mean, a lease to rent'¥ Mr. GoooEAOT.E. Removal oi re[...]FRAZI£R. You say the department said there 'was a lease to be sio-ned 1 Mr. GooDEAGT.E. To bo si~ned. Senator FRAZIER. 1Vhat kind of a lease 1 l\1r. GooDEAGLE. An a.g1·iculturnl lease. Senator FnAzn:n. 'fo rent[...]y have not adequate help ?r assistance in looking a'fter various properties. They have not sufficient helP-. I kno,v one thing, we have not had a regular appraiser or a field clerk for this n~eney for a Jong ti,ne.' ~llfhen you go up' to the office you[...]ith _the persons of this agency and have been for a nwnbe11 of years. I ' have no criticism to offer[...]tions with bun hav,e been fine. Mr. Suffecool was a rn'ighty nice n1a.n. During his reign here as superintendent, a n111nbeJ· of tirnes I ·have attei1d'e d 1rieeti[...]the south part of the Natiori' an1ong the. Sene<;a 'frlbe. · I encourage the1n along t.l1e l[...] |
| [...]:., Senator 'l':a.o~t,\S. I s that b!)in'g doJ)e no\v 1 ?t1r.[...]that, I know of another instance ·where he took a child of parents that were penniless-I thi nk the child w•as a half-breed Q,unpaw-he took it fro1n its dying be[...]OODEA.GLJ-:. No, si r; but those aJ·e the prog1·a1ns that Mr. Suffecool carried out. · Senator FRAZfi:R. You think, he 'IVas a pretty good man, do you t l'i1r. GoooEAG.LE.[...]m. Senator FnAzIEn.. S01neone just testified a little ":bile. ago ~hey thought he was a very good 1nan. l'i'fr. Gooo£AO.L£. No; th[...]it was in connection with 4--H Clubs. H e 1nade a trip to Oklahoma City with the pupils here, whic[...]nd things like that, but I take no ,stock in it. A fellow told me of one instance where some one we[...]eral c~rs·,and he· bas th~ reputation of being a drunkard. If he driv'es it while he is drunk, he[...]" Another auto1nobile firm can1c in and presented a bill. He told them the sa1ne thing. He sa[...] |
| [...]ient over his protest in letting this Indian have a car. Senator PINE. Who sold him that car, do[...].cused.) JoHN LOGAN ,vns thereupon called as a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testi[...]st i\fr. Bartholemew here talking about the Cayu~a payment. l'here is $858.33 that is supposed to be[...]Bartholemew about $700 out of this $800. I got up a petition and sent it to Co1nmissioner Burke and a[...]tate to pay it to the Indian office. I still have a copy of the petition that I made out. Senator[...]be wants to give it to the I ndians and pay it on a green-corn feast and all such thin~ as that. He h[...]he has got. Senator FRAZ'ffiR. You think it is a more satisfactory way to pay it through the India[...]k. We \\•ill have to adjourn ns we have to make a long drive to-night. If there is any Indian who has not been heard or anyone else who ,vould like to rnake a statement, please make it in writi~15.or h[...] |
| [...]The con1n1ittee met, pursuant to call, at 10.30 a. m., the Hon. Lynn J. Frazier (chair1nan) presidi[...]nt: SuJ?t, J. Geor~e Wright, Chief Lookout, 1\{r. A. A.. Grorud, special assistant to tile subcommittee, and 1\1r. Nelson A.. 1\fason, clerk of the committee. Senator FRAZIER. This hearing is called u.nder authority of a reso- lution adopted by the United States Senate[...]l the superintendent ns the first witness to get. a few figures as to the general conditions here, th[...]nnd so forth. Then ·we will call on the Indians a little later on. . J. GEORGE WRIGHT was t hereupon called as a. wit,ness and, a.f tcr being first duly sworn, testified as[...] |
| [...]received about 657 acres, of which 166 acres ,vas a homestead. Senator FRAZIER. 'fhex sti!l retai[...]mpted from taxation until 1931, Apri l, 1931; but a recent act of Congress in 1929 provided that afte[...]r personal property¥ , l\1r. 1yn1onT: Th.ere !s a question of whether their. personal p rop- erty b[...], l\1r. ,vnxoaT. A good many of, 1them live elsewhere than Ok[...] |
| [...]' . Senator FRAlilllR. On a royalty basis 1 , i\fr. ,VRIGHT. On a royalty basis; on a bonus basis at pubfic auc,. tion in addition to t[...]en- rolled or unenrolled under 18 years o,£ age, a~d $1,000 quarterly where they were over 18 years[...]er the super- vision of the superintendent. Until a year a~o the royi1lties and bonuses an~ revenues fom the[...]ans sufficient in the Dece1n- ber payment to make a $1,000. That ,viii gradually decrease very materi[...]HT. Yes, sir. Senator l<"RazIBR. Ho,v nuich of a reduction is thatr-say in the last 5 or 10[...] |
| [...]$8,600; 1922, $7,700; 1923, I have given. By a recent act of Congress it provided that not less[...]ually and the Secretary · has fixed that area ns a maximurn a1nount 't hat he ,vill offer each year. The tribal[...]nd, third, fourth, and fifth years. If they drill a well in the second year before the 1st of April,[...]onths, they do not pay any rentals. If they drill a well after April 1 and before July 1, they pay 25 cents for a quarter of a year. At the end of the year they pay $1. There have been a large number of acres relinquished. There is at t[...]ime, in 1896, the whole reservation was leased in a blanket.lease for 10 years by Congress. That leas[...]~931 which required tl~e lensing of 100,000 acres a year 1n order to get 1t al.l leased by 1931. Cong[...]the maxin1u1n at the present time as fixed under a conservation policy and due· to overproduction n[...]ny Federal moneys for the ad1ninistration of this a~ency. Senator Fn,,zIER. How far does th[...] |
| [...]Interior. 1\ll of our moneys are authorized under a budget and spent under ,ny supervision. Senator[...]1\'fi'. ,VRIGHT. Yes, sir; Congress authorizes a certain amount of money each year for ad1ninistra[...]; about 50 in the office. Senator FRAZIER. Give a list of these employees. First, the office boys.[...]Liquor-enforcement officers; yes, sir. '!'hat is a total of 87. I have a list here of all the employees and their salaries. Senator FRAZIER. May we have a copy of this for the record 1 l\1:r. vVRIOHT. y[...]J,620 2,000 JJ. Whisenhunt. Datsy L. a...-tSistant clerk .................. .... .... ..[...].. ..... . 11 2,800 a, 100 If. Roequo., Leo lo"., senior clerk . ... ..[...]. .................... . , Scavard.8, Dominick A.., clerk ............... .... ...........[...] |
| [...]Oross 23. DelbeJ,CarlW.,a....;::sist-Antclerk.. ... ...... . . . .... .. ..[...]6b-f .....•.... 1,680 |
| [...]\<VRIGRT. Yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. Have you a record of ho,v many children are i 11 the schooJs[...]for various reasons, married or ill, 62, leaving a total eligible of 1,106. Senator FRAZIER., Th[...]<?ls. No"', they are nil undeT the supervision of a count,Y superintendent. .[...]vate schools, and 111 in misi,i9n schoqls, making a total ·of 1,106. The average attendance for tl)1[...]he morale is fine. Senator FRAZIER. They make a good showing in their studies! Mr. WRI[...] |
| [...]her in schools where the Inaians attend send out a weekly report ori a postal franked card that ,ve furnish them.[...]. WRIGHT. The health conditions are fair. We have a health nu.rse here who spends all her time visit[...]ith th~ gas¥ ·M r. WRIGHT.· We get 3 cents a thousand.' Senator WHEEI.ER. What do you get[...]e ,vell. Senator FRAZIER. You said there was a bonus on the oil in addition to the one-sixth, di[...]w, the leases that were made for gas in 1915 were a renewal of the old former leases. They paid prior[...]. The royalties were then in- creased to 20 cents a thousand. Our royalties on gas and on casing- hea[...]is ,vhere gasoline is manufactured-have averaged a half million dollars a year for a number of years. ·Senator FRAZIER. Is that ho[...]1 ~fr. \VnroHT. Yes, sir. The President fixed a royalty on gas· at one-sixth of the rnark[...] |
| [...]Secret.'lrf was to determine what he thought was a proper royalty at the we! or value of the gas at[...]ering about 300,000 acres on the bnsis of 3 cents a thousand. Secretary Lane then ordered a hearing in Washington with gas lessees all over t[...]nal. One of the forn1er large co1npanies that had a large area claimed they could not pay that withou[...]on to bring what it ,vns worth. This cornpnny had a network of pipe lines throughout the Territory, a[...]s worth at the well for royalty purposes 18 cents a thousand, of which they pay one-sixth, which is 3[...]to determine the value at the " 'ell at 18 cents a thousand and to pay one-sixth of that, which is 3[...]in Osage County and about 425 gas wells. Here is a statement of ou1· - - Senato1· i'VHEELER. Ho[...]ent oil wells are 1nakin" 3.48-about 31/2 barrels a clay on the average. In the Bnrb,u1k field,, whic[...],909 wells in Burbank-the 7,818 wells nlake on an a.verage of a little over a barrel and-a quarter_[...]Jl Bur- bank field were 1nncle in 1920 and. 1for .a ti1ne.,those wells av.~raged ~00 barrels,, but. t[...]tt 3ust recently in Okla)l!)ma they have adop,ted a proration order , which, of course, cornes under[...],lpt re~1lntJy,. ,_ i'f he S,ecret1,1,r.y, ;,e,it a teJ_egraoi t.q P!lC· qf the operators l\b[...] |
| [...]cent of thnt production. That affects about a thousand ,veils in the Osage country that are niaking over 5 bar1'els. That · aggregate a1nounts to about 12,_000 barrel~ a 11 day. The Osa&es get one-~'lXth of, tha~;[...]ti,vould nffect thll Tribe's interest $1\000 a day. , ,[...]', Because the 1ninera1 belongs to the tribe· as a wliok and all the money that comes in fro1n th[...]'xth. Therefore, if there are 12,o'O_O barrels a day the t ribe win, get•'dne- • sixth of it o[...]sell that 1,000 barrels at the mlii:.ket at $1 a barrel ; so it ,vould affect the1n about $1,000 a dity. ; ,,fl Senator vVHl:F-LER. They ha[...]ve not. I think in the Burbank field they made a test about 3,000 feet deeper, but did not find an[...]$14,691,000. For the last few years they have run a inillion dollars. The oil has gone dow[...] |
| [...]rentals hcre1 l\1r. ,'VRIOB1'. 'l'h~ rentals a.re where they do not develop ench year. '.rhey pay $1. per acre per annum if they do not drill a ,vell that year. Senator FRAZIER. Are these rent.a ls and royalty payn1ents kept up? Is there any1[...]., . '!'hey take the oil from the wells. We have a. list here of operator$ and purchasing companies[...]IndiRns had coal lands we found there were large a1nounts still due on coal leases that ,vere not c[...]. M1'. WRIOBT. A few; not very many. There a.re not very 1unny wells being drilled, at the p[...]Senator FRAZIER. You still lease the 25,000 acres a yenrl Mr. ,vnroH.T. Yes, sir; but there is more than that handled a ·yeal'. Senator FRAZIER. Yes; but on the n[...]T. Some of them do. They have five years to drill a well. The tribe has felt and represente[...] |
| [...]res-offe1· 25,000 acres :from the uuleased lauds a.ud to reoffer in addition to that the acreage tha[...]ave here and I would like to show the co1n1nittee a list of the wells. This is independent of the oil[...]arter ~ections in that field that sold for o,·er a rnillion dollars each because of the lnrge wells[...]ve run out 1 1\Ir. WRIGHT. Well, the owners of a great 1nany of thc1n are white people. 'l'hey are[...]1\fr. \VnroHT. \\7e have fonr districts. \Ve have a field rnan in charge of each distri ct. Senato[...]third 1nnn is here ·and the ' fourth 1nan is in a district where there are · prncticall}; r[...] |
| [...]ir operations, look iifter the,n generally and in a super- visory capacity. Senator FRAZIER. Assis[...]at 1 Mr. WmoHT. Yes, sir. At the prP.sent time a great deal of their time is in their offices, bec[...]e pay out this $1,000 quar- terly it' requii•es a great deal of supervision. I f we paid an Indian $1,0~ at the beginning of the quarter, in a ,veek he has not got anytlung. Senator ,¥HEELE[...]ut where the $11000 is paid out, if "'e pay it in a lump surn, they can not save it. 'fne law provide[...]e in our office un1ounted to about 60,000 letters a year. Senator ,vnEELER. Have many of these Ind[...]oneys, but they have in addition to these mo,ieys a. special trust fund ,vhich n1nounts to $3.[...] |
| [...]il' own whereby they have put theil' money into ·a bank or trust co1npany?[...]are mixed bloods. 'fhey are scattered all ov.er. A great many of·, the1n live in other States.[...]· _, Mr. ,vn10HT. Yes, si r; ,ve have a good arrangement here. I ,insti- gated n system two or three years ago, o'f 1naking a ·contract. ,vith tl1e county com1nissioners th.[...]eir time for Indian work. Then if the county lias a home- demonstration woman we have ·similar cont[...]s very, ve1·y well.• The county agent here is a graduate of an agricultural colle~e and~all catt[...]on ,vith the so- called restricted funds that not a dollar of that money is spent ex- cept upon appro[...]uth Dakota. Senator WHEEI.>111. You served as aa man in three counties he can not get over a county, let alone <lo anything for the Indians. |
| [...]always thought each of those tribes ought to have a separate agency-one for the.Cherokees, one for th[...]. Senator W:REELER. 1'hey al·e h1 a pretty. deplorable condition up there 1 · ,[...]time. Of course, an Indian who is getting $4,000 a year and his wife the same ,[...]are built ,vhen some of these Indians applied for a house to be builtt Mr. '\VntoHT. '\Vhere they[...]trouble we have of course is this: An Indian has a large amount of money. He ,vants ·to get a large house. · He feels it is his money and he ought to have the kind of a house he desires, but we try ·to get them to be[...]ianship do,vn •here'l . Mr. Wi!.IOIIT. We have a pretty good law as to guardianship at the[...] |
| [...]r WHEELER. Are these 1nerchants still going ahead a11d ex- tendin"' creditj Mr. ,vnronT. I do[...]GHT, Yes, sir; but they found it was i1npossible, a good many of the1n, to ascertain the cost of these articles, so they agreed on a certain reduction. I put it up to the -depart1nen[...]plements, 15 per cent. '!'here was an aggre,.ate a,nount mnounting to $1,044,000 of debts co,ne in.[...]9,000'? ~:h·. Wn1011•r. Yes, sir. The tot.a.I n\1n1ber of clnims was 4,383 ;· nu1nbcr of In[...]00 quarterly. :Ct also provided \\•hatever just a'ebts they had outstanding at tba.t ti1ne s[...] |
| [...]. Any contrncts he 1nade during the ti,ne he had a certificate were binding, of course, and should not be disturbed. A great many of those got all of their money and t[...]0. Mr. '\.YntoH'l', Yes, sir·; but they ht~ve a.hvays got their money, con- sequently ,v hen ,ve[...]he income is1 i:l:fr. vVnxGH'r. Yes. I-lere is a •list of the houses ,ve built the last few yea.[...]housos nnd they luive nice furnishings. They take a great deal of pride in their houses. 'fhere is Ch[...]to locat-e theni on land on which they can 1nake a living so1ne day. All of the1n do not live in the[...]thei1· places there from ,vhic!i they can ,nake a Living by raisin~ cattle a.nc\ hogs when the ti1ne cornes. vVhen this 1noney[...]in~ 1nore houses 111 to,vn, but the Inchan 1s not a t-0wu 1nan. 1'hey ah have elaborate furnitu1·c,[...]They feel it is their nioney and they should have a reaso!}a\>le amount. Each and every house that ,ve build t[...]plnns and bring thern here, then we fix thern up a contract after getting bids, nnd the house[...] |
| [...]f these restricted funds for various purposes not a dollar is paid except with the approval of the de[...]Mr. ,vRIOHT. Every surface owner, whether he is a white 1nan or Indian, if .the land is ·suitable[...]s $100 for each ,veil. That reserves an acre and, a, half. If he adds to that surface he pays additi'[...]ges by arbitration they go to the courts. That is a . mnp showing the colors there and you sec the gr[...]us .. Mr. GRoRuo. You furni~1ed the cornmittee a statement with refer- ence to your agency so1nc t[...]' Mr. ,VRIGH'r. Yes, sir; I furnished a staternent. I furnished also at your request a statement which shows the aigregnte for the last[...]on in being able to say there never has been even a suggestion that one penny of that money ha[...] |
| [...]it, but the Secretary advised that he had made it a settled policy of relieving those ,vho .had reached t he retire1nent age. 'fhe tribe felt that this ,vas a little bit out of the ordinary, because they ,ve[...]IRS, . lVaallington., D . a. United Statea Senate,[...]onuses, and other sources, shown separately, over a pe1·iod of 10 years, i:,·om 1920-1929, l11cl11S[...]xonT, S11,11cri1tle11,u11t. Record, of Osaqe oil a,uz. gas lease prodiwtw» fro11• 1920 to and i,i[...]••• 26,884,734 9, OU3, SU. 00 1, a;o, 012. 01 8, 452, 770. 77 ........•[...] |
| [...]ia" .tl.gencv. DEAR Ma. ,vRioHT: J,'ollowlng ls a report of the enrollment of cl\lldren of restrict[...]wbicb Is also followed, for your Information, by a full and complete 1·e1>or t of the euroll[...] |
| [...], United States Senate, TVaal1i11gto11, D. a. DEAR SIR: Further reference is made to your[...]school 1·c11rcsentnth·e. bis $lcnographer, and a mcehanlc to keep buildings formerly used f[...] |
| [...]. In udditlon to the above U1ere Is a tl'lbal attorney, who is employed under conh·act[...]ements of t ribal oil nnd gas royalties, bonuses, a nd other sources for the 1>nst 10 years, and numb[...]a.rch 20, The first tribal Osage lease for oil a nd gas was executed March 16, 1896, by James Blgh[...]lllarch 3, 1905 (33 Stat. 1061), was renewed for a period of 10 years covering 680,000 acres, embrac[...]ernls In the Osage were reserved to the tribe for a specified time, and Uint lenses could be m[...] |
| [...]at which time t.he Osage Council was present, and a record of such hearing before Commissioner Sells[...]exceeding 4,SOO·acres each lo the aggregate, at a royalty of one-sixth Instead of on-lghth provide[...]under the law Is re- quire<l to fix the royalty. A report of all such proceedings nn<I resolution of[...]nsclall, pte$ldent of the Barnsdall 011 Co .. was a s ublessee and controlled oll leases of about 80[...]ennsylvanln on behalf of llr. Barnsdall. ofl'ered a resolution in the Senate to provide thnt of the[...]tbe lands be leased for oil nnd gas separately on a royalty of one-sixth and one-fifth for oil In c[...]out 300,000 acres for gas leases only, ofl'erlng a royalty of 3 cents 1>er thousand cubic fe[...] |
| 6762 SURVEY OF OONDITIONS OF INDIANS IN UNITED STATES a public liearlng In March, 1016, tor the purpose o[...]y concluded to pay such royalty and were |
| [...]e-sixth. Such lenses provided for such royalty on a term of 5-year periods, and at the ex1)lrnt1on of[...]where gas Is used for cxtrnctlon of gasoline that a s1ieelflc roya lty should be paid on gasol[...] |
| [...]casita payment.s t.o lndh·ldual Indians, oll a.n ~ royalties, bonus sale of oil lease[...]0,)13.M "' 3 per cent. gross prod~tlon a.nd 1 pet ceot ···-·[...] |
| [...]56,421. 40 65,UO. 72 153,409. ;a Gs. 676.01 62,495.01[...]jz Osage A~cy r&venues.. . ••••••••..[...] |
| [...]a,[...]a,[...]7 \l, 533. 050. °' •10. m. a,s. ◄8 17, 866,23i.$ j li,iM,9<$.Z7 21, 368, ()5[...].......... 2, 10,l. 37 $.958. a2 I 2,7SS.4I 16, 5IS.S2 I[...]6, 700.85 1,9')-,.1$$ l__ 1.a11.9s 14, rot ss 12[...] |
| [...]l$6,S92.50 ·····iii;isi'•a· 140,635.19 79,3·18.[...]O".A. 110. 7◄[...] |
| [...]. ........ ....... .... .. -. ... ---: . -. Loans a.od invc-stments ..... .. . ...........•.[...] |
| [...]OSAGE INDIAN A0t:1'0Y.[...]pted the resignntlon of ~Ir. Fnri-ar, gunrdlnn of a full- blc>o.d Iudiau, Ho 'fab Moie, nnd upon my petition bns appointed another gunrd- h1u wbo is a physician and n man of high standing, and which f[...]nmotmts arc 11nid to their wards direct, as the a ct of 1920 gives the department such discretion. A list of the uames of the Indians, together with t[...]tificates where Indians arc less than half blood, a11d there are only three Indians under gua rdiimsl[...]pacitated for v,1rious reasons to receive moneys, a number being nddicted t.o the excess ive use of l[...]e l11tercst ot s uch Indinos to have them seut to a snuit.a rlum in many Instances. The superlutcnclcnt has n[...]nctlon can only be 1nkcn where necessilry through a guardian. by J>l"Ot oriug uecessnry court order,[...]rin;::s wcr,) had in court. During s uch, time m,a ny objections were made in th~ coun:y ronr[...] |
| [...]Since 1925 110 guardian can be appointed over a restricted IudJnn or over one ha,•ing one-half[...]ing jointly by the court and the supe.-intcnd~nt. A large majorlt~• of cases where Indians are und[...]hen, as stated, the department bad no control. In a number or cases appl!catiton has been made by th[...]g.), to rend ns follows: "That there shall be a quadrennial election of officers of the Osnge Tribe ns follows: A principal chief, an assistant principal chief, a nd eight members of tile Osage Tribal Coubcil, t[...]In the ycnr 102S, said officers to be elected at a general election to be held in the town of Pawhus[...]At?alt-s, and said officers shall be elected for a period of fou r years com• mencing on the 1st[...]of the Osage 'l'rlbal Council shall be filled in a manner to be prescribed by the Osage Tribal Coun[...]2, 1930. 'Xbe polls to be open from 8 o'clock a. m. until 6 o'clock p. m. of that day for[...] |
| [...]ay, Jnue 2, 1930, between the hours ot 8 o'clock a. m. and 6 o'clock p. m. Done this 1st day ot[...]rovides as follows: "'.!'hat there shall be a quadrennial election ot officers of the Osage Tribe as follows: A principal chief, an assll;tnnt principal chief, n[...]the year 1028, said officers to be elected at a general election to · be held In the towu or P[...]scribed by the Commissioner of Indian AJl'airs, a.n d said officers shall be elected for a periocl or four rears commencing on the 1st day[...]f the Osage 'l'rlbal Council shall be ftlled In a mtrnncr to be prescribed by the Osage Tribal Coun[...]ed, after the party involved has bad due notice a.nd opportunity to appear and defend himself, nu[...]ion· calling attention to the coming election of a principal chief, and asslstnnt princlpt1l chief[...]e Tribe approved by the Secretary of the Interior A1>rll 11, 1908, will be entitled to hold office 0[...]l'AR. 8. NOmitiatfo11s to lie by co1wenlio11s a11d pclitio11~.-Coovcntio11s shall be held[...] |
| [...]ncancy thus occasioned may only be filled through a s1>eclnl cnlled conYcn• rion for nominating u s[...]numdcnt of t11c Osago Agcuc~r shall desig• nate a room in the office building where the election bo[...]ve voters and see to it tbot ,·otiug booths nre a1·rnnged to n!Iord prlYacy. 'l'be election board[...]receive ballots between the bo111·s of S o'clock a. m. to 6 o'clock p, m. without Intermission on el[...]carried ou t. The ballot!, shall be banded out by a judge to the electors as they present themselves to Yote, after bcin;:; ident!Jlcd by a clerk, who shnll be supplied with a co11y of the Os ni;e 1·011, or an extract thereo[...]rs to whom ballots are delivered shall be kept by a clerk of the bonrd. In the event of mutil:ltion of a ballot nud np1>lication of tho elector for anoth[...]d with other records pertaining to said election. A jud:.;c shall recei;-e the ballot a(.te1· the elector llns ludicnted his choice thereon b~• placing an X mark wltb a stencil opposite the name of each candidate for w[...]andidates of their choice. P AR. 6. Bal/.ol.-A ballot showln;:; n:unes oncl offiC<!S for which e[...]duty of tbe super,-lsor to request the cletall of a police officer to n,;.'!ist him in maintaining[...]prog,·ess of the election . PAn. 10. ,l/a,i.11e r of counting follo,oi11g the clo.~c of pol[...]and the clerks sliall each recor<l the vote upon a sheet opposite the name of the rcspectlYe[...] |
| [...]he ballot hns been counted it sbnll be pierced by a needle nnd strung and after all ballots have been[...]PA>t ll. Swor" sta.tamcnt. of 00·11,it to be 111a.dc b11 election boar<l.- A stP.tc• ment 1)crtnining to the conduct of the[...]~ball serve in the capacity of his designation ns a member of the election board.[...]ncy. Agency bulldlu:;s were erected, nn() also a school wbcre many of t he promi- nent members of[...]age was the act of: .June 28, 1006, providing for a division of the lands and moneys held In common by the tribe. This act provided for a final roll which was closed July 1, 1907.[...] |
| [...]6775 nre full-blood and I,840 mixed blood . A commlssion consisting of three persons were ap})<[...]il mining lease purposes by competitive bids, for a total bonus consideration of $98.694,000. Such le[...]rom gas lease sales aggregated $1,634,000, making a total of $100,618,000 received as bonuses. Ju add[...]and gasoline extracted from casing head gas, and a f11rt11cr amount of $10,200,000 royalties was rec[...]l lenses, which were sold at dltrerent titnes for a bonus aggreguting $58,182,300. 'l'wenty-one quart[...]income of Os.1ge Indians for Investment purposes. A congressional committee visited Pawhuska i[...] |
| [...]ate ftrst mort• gage loans. Where the member Is a resident of Oklaho_ma, In Oklahoma real esrate. s[...]approved by tbe Secretary of the Interior. The a ct of Congress Of February 27, 1925, further prov[...]restricted Indian between $150,000 11nd $200,000 a year In guardianship and attorney fees and court[...]blind and !u need of the personal supervis ion of a guar1llan. The law now requil'es that no guardian of a restricted Indian shall be appointe(! by tl1e cou[...]idual meml)()rs of the Osage Tribe Increased from a paltry $272 In 1915 to as much ns $13,200 In 1925[...]R EOORO OP OSAGE INDIAN'S .' Allotted a.,ui i.11aUotted a11d their gtta,,·d,ia11s, Nove1111Jer 1ft, 1980 J[...]- A,·erage cost of gunrdlansbips: For guardia[...] |
| [...]\farr M. May .f, 192-f a¾u Viola Revard . ... . One-slxtoont.h ••[...]te). aa ther is dend[...]•JI• Joseph A. Revard . 'I'bree s ixty- Ind[an father dead;[...]e. no.mod Mr. Dun- (white).[...]One-eighth •••••. ?vfothcr requested A. (white).[...]11)28 ¼ LoislleUI.AA. (white).[...]• do•.• , ••••• •• mot her is a white •••••do•[...]:............ Fatheir ls d ead; Alfred A.[...]Jo'ronels A. }"ron• .•. ••do.... ...... ..[...] |
| [...]ard. Hunssktr, A. May 2, 1021[...]b E . Ono-half •••••••• Father Is a IJfo- (W lilO).[...]... Ono-thlr ty•sec- The Indian tatbcr vJon A.[...] |
| [...]g. ZT, 1930 ½ Mary A . Ardm1o,. On&-half•••••••• 0$3g&[...]• P1nterson, Joo. 2a,1m ¾ Dorothy[...], 11)24 ,~,o Joan LGG•a ••• ••• . •••••do•.•...[...]••••••••• person 0,nd :iot a |
| [...]••••••••• ••••.. Lou.l!A Mosler•••••••.•••••••[...]Julia A. Parker Chandler.... .....[...].•.•••. •.••• Full. Fortune,. AA., Jr....................... . J0$6pb Ls[...]••••••• OnH.ightb. Lucas, A. \V ••.•.•.••••••••••[...]John A'. l'ugate •••••.. •••••••[...]re............... Do. Puryear, J. AaA ••••••••••••[...] |
| [...]oe.. . . .... ...... ... Do. Justus, L. A., Jr •• ~ .•••... .•• .Jan. 17, J02[...]tee».th Indian). • Lucas, A. w....,.:. L ...•... Apr. 2$: U)'l9, NeJU6 I. D[...]•••••• Blind. Prosbury, J. A •••• ......... .[...]om Steele •• ••• •. ..... . .• .. A. , ,,. Corrstock. McKinley, Angella .. ...[...] |
| [...]do •••• Do. T rombly, Marie A . •••• One.sixteenth •.• •• •• M.aAa fter inter-[...]gunrdtan- is sUU a[...] |
| [...]---dO----- ---------- mother betug-a<Ln.Un-[...]expired.) 3 . Lands held IJ)- nu Incll1in under a deed con)·eying trust or other c:1:cmpt lancl and containing a restriction n;::ninst nlicnntio11, exc~1lt with t[...]sa le cl<> not become purch,1se1· is entitled to a fee patent or Clear deod. \Vhile the nmount whi<-[...]he lancl may be taxed as ,u1 iu,·es tmeut, It is a purely personal tnx nnd cnn not affect the lnnd i[...]er hns no <'Quity in the la nd until the right to a patent 26405-31-PT 15-10 |
| [...]I/C que~tton as to whether an allotment for which a patent In fee bns l>~en !ssuccl to the allottee[...]the ground that the exemption from tnxntion wits a vestecl right or wl1ich they could not be depriv[...]) Is not aaected by bis civil or poUtlcal status. A citizen Indian mny own restricted 1.1ontaxable pr[...]Is not aflected by its locntion. whether on or oa a reservation, but is determined by the nature nnd[...].· The foregoing Is Intended to answer In a gener.a I way the questions wh\cb nre constantly nilsing[...]est interest of tl1e ward. In cnses of restricted a clult Iocliaus payment$ should be mncle to[...] |
| [...]accu,nulated Income of the parent or parents of a minor who bas no Income or whose income Is less[...]e Os,1ge Tribe of Indians, ·who does not ha,•e a certillcnte of competency or who Is ot one-half o[...]Osage Tribe for bis information aa soon as copies a,-e availnble. Res1~ectfully,[...] |
| [...]0 ¥FICE OF INOIAN A•"PA1K8,[...]e department approved March 7. 1926. Such changes a s may be necessary In these regulations will be[...]laws of the State of Oklnhomn provide that u1lou a hearing had, after the co111·t hnd obtnined jur[...]ation br n cotmly court hnvlng juflsdlction after a f air trial ondc r the lnws ot Oklnhomn , paymen[...]In the case of n gnnrdinn · l,ein~ appointed tor a certificate of competency, pnyment should be witb[...]of com• petency only up0n their satisfactorily a-ccot1ntlng for the last funds paid them. The prac[...]plications should be s ubmitted !or consideration a s directed in the Instructions of ~lnrch 5. appro[...]J1ese people will be obliged tq conscrYe at least a part of their quarterly allowance, such savings f[...]E . B . hh:R11T, A otin/J Commissioucr. Approved July 20, 1[...] |
| [...]GEO. WIUOUT, Superinte,ulettt, Osage lt1<Uan A.gcnou, Pawl11[...]of competency issued prior t.o the appointment of a guardian b11ve. not been re,•oked does not cont[...]facts of such i11com- 1>etcntency as presented co a court are considered sufficient to warrant the ap1)0lntment of a guardian, it would appear that u,c pur;>ose of th[...]Co11,11troller Ge11c,·a1.[...], 1925, requesting decision whether the quarterly a llowance authori7.ed by the net of 1''cb rua,·y[...]is available for payment to J ohn Bigbeart, jr., a restricted full-blooded allottee, for the 11111in[...]ildren who are 1:he children of his white wife by a previous marriage and living with him nnd s upported by him. In decision of October 28, 1925 (A-11387), after quoting the statute in ques- tion a[...]er of the statute may rca$onably Oo c-onsit.lcrcd a:-- i ncluding ac101)tccl parents and to authorize[...]J. R . McCARL, Oom,f)tt·oller Ge,ie,·a.i. |
| [...]Pi·ovided, 'J:hat If nu adult member, not having a certificate of competency so desire, bis entire i[...]de under such restrictions. rule~ nod l'egulaious a~ be 1nny 1n-escribe : • • ~[...]ed 1.n bis discretion to pay. out of the funds of a member of the Osage 'J:ribe not having n c[...] |
| [...]t.~ incurred subsequent to Februnry 27, 19'26, as a res ult of con- tract, which are uppa,·eutly the character of debts you describe, 1nny not be· 11a id uuless tl1e contracts IHH'e been n!)l)roved bs[...]eys and property In t bcit" possession derived as a result of income paymeuts in excess or $4,000 per[...]he entire iuco1ne of the adult ludHui no_t haviog a certificate of competency. And I am constrained t[...]e control of the Secre- tary of tile Interior. In a ddition to this ))rovision tho statute req[...] |
| [...]ased members of tbe Osage '.l'rlbe, but provides a lso that tbe Superintendent of the Osage Agency,[...]no partition or sale of the restricted lands or a deceased Osage allottee shall be valid until appr[...]e heirs are minors, the said court shnll appoint a guardian ad !item for the salcl minors iu[...] |
| [...]he best interest of such Indians, be pn id to the a dminist rators of the estates or such Indians or[...]th payment direct to tile competent heirs Is only a1>plicahle. ns stated in the section quoted, when[...]In connection with this and Question 1. there is a lso for considcrntion section 7 of the act of Feb[...]irs of Indinn blood shall inheri t from those who a re ot one-hnlf or more Indian blood of the Osnge[...]ry of the Inte rior in his ndmlntstra t!on of the a!l'alrs of the Osage lndinns sho11ld see that this[...]law. "3. Is It proper In the event nn heir is a restricted Ind ian to permit tlte admlnlstrntor o[...]nrtlcular Indlnn, or woul(l it be proper in s nch a case to require the ndministrntor or executor to[...]of the act of February 27, 1925?" In the event a dlstributee of an est.ate of n deceased Osage Ind[...]are of interest on tn1st funds. bonus, royalties, a nd other moneys to which n lllcmber of t.he Osago[...]tc., as he may be entitled as beir and devlsee of a deceased membe r. Thus, in the case or a restricted Osnge India n of one-b,1lf or m[...] |
| [...]-or executor to pay over funds In bis bonds to a restricted Osage Ioclian heh- of one-half or[...]ors of estate of "such deceased Osage Indians" a sufllcient amount of money out ot said estates[...]n 2 it Is lmmnterlnl wbether tbe · deeeasecl was a restrlctecl or competent Indian. ht either case t[...]act of April 18, 1912, may appoint an executor or a<lmlo- lstrntor, as the case may require, determ[...]ether the Secretary of the Interior may require a submission of the claims to hlm for approval Is[...]credit of deceased Osage Indians be held pending a final determination of the heirs and then pnid in[...]unry 26, 1926.) "3. Au :1<lult member havhig aa p11rcot or ;gunrclian for the ma.lntcnance nncl education of a minor child between rhe ages or 18 and 21 Is $1,000 per quarter, and for a child under 18, $500 a quarter, |
| [...]d therefore such claims as tl•e mhniuist,·ntor a1mrovcs should be submitted here for approval. ([...]'l'hreefore tho administrator Is not entitled as a matte>" or right to be paid the entire a.wount due the estate o( a competent Indian, but this is withi.n the discretion of tbe Secretary of the Interior. (Roe estate, a1mroved .April 30, 1926.)" Tbe funds to the c[...]deceased Ol!llge Inclinns should be held pending a final dete1•mination of the heirs and then paid[...]rs to do so, or in cases where 1111 the Jieil·s a re competent, in which cases the p,·obate court[...]rd, Osage allotted No. 864, mnri·led Leo \Vistnr a number of years ago and a& a result of this union three children were b[...] |
| [...]ITIONS OF INDIANS IN UNITED STA'.IJES bavlng a ccrtlllcnte or competency, bis or ber pro rata share, either as a member |
| [...]PAWUIJSKA, 01<1.A., April 21, 1926. Hon. R. A. BMINEY, 1Vasl,ington, D. a. DEAB ll.lR. BMINEY: I l1ave your Jetter of the 16th Instant, in which you have sent a copy of im opinion on the following question : "As a matter of right, Is nu Osage Indian of less tbnn one-half blood entitled. to a certllicatc of competency upon reaching the age o[...]the Secretary or anyone else, the right to Issue a certificate of competency, ext-ept in paragraph 7[...]I desire to say It is II pleasure to work with a young man who seems to go into these questions fu[...]1 the matter of Clarence Easley's appllcntion for a certificate of competency, and I informed the sup[...]ge Indian of less than one-half Indian blood, as a matter of right, was not entitled to a certificnte of competency upon his r eacblng the[...]Indians having less than one-bnl! Indian blood, a certillcnte of competency upon reaching the age o[...]Osage 'l'ribat A.ue11ou.[...]te lil·st referred to provided for the making or a llnal roll showing the membership of the O[...] |
| [...]ch member was required to designate 160 ncres as a llomestend, tile remainder of tile lands assl.rme[...]hich shall remain lnnllenable and nontaxable for a period of 25 years, or during tile lite ot the h[...]to be paid to said tribe as hereinafter provided: A11d 1»•ovi,u;cl ,.,,.111cr. Tllat tile oil, gas[...]11te1·lor; that ls., they can not be demanded as a matter of right, but where granted, sevcr11l essential requlr~mcnts must bent hand, viz: (a) The applicant must be an adult; (b) a request or petition from the aonlicant for such c[...]. The· prnctical effect of Ute lssunnce of s uch a certificate ts to remo,·c t11e restrictions aga1[...]e United States. bnt Instead of being retnlned as a trust Cuncl were to be pnid to enrolled members o[...]U,e trust funds were paid: that is quarterly, on a per capita basis. This gave rise to the quarterly[...]ese Indians that Congress finally decided to take a band In the matter. |
| [...]their entire shares and adult members not having a certificate of competency to. bc paid $1,000 per[...].-s suc)I members became entitled, Ipso facto, to a certificate or <·ompetency, as a ma tter of right of law without any further showing as to, rompetency. 'l'hcrc Is a material dltre.-ence, bowe,,er, between the remoYnl ot restrictions against al,ieuntlon nod the Issuance of a certilk11te ·of competency, particularly where[...]running with the land. Competency, of course, ls a -po,·soual a tt ribute or equation. These two. t ompetency an[...]f, at times, ha·s lifted t·estrictioos against a lienation, in mnsse, without speeial regard to th[...]y shown,. under the act of 1906, the issuance of a certitlcnte of competency cllcl not 1·emove the[...]t synonymous with t-om1ieteucy, or the l"ight to a certificate of that character. l 'he more rec[...]se members of the- O tri.be having a ce.i:tlOcate of <:OmJ)Cl'cncr. 1' Hnd Co[...] |
| [...]etion of the Seeretary of the Interior, based on a finding as to compete11cy or the npp\1- ,·nnt. Hence, such a certlflcnte can not bO demanded as a matter of ,·ight 0 1· as a matter of law. An intent on the part of Congress[...]Osage County Motor Co. sold to Roosevelt Pappl,u, a nine sbty.fourtb-blood Osage Indian not having a certificate of competency, a Lincoln automobile for $5,768.45. Five notes aggr[...]ng $1,418.75 appear to bave bee;1 .made, leaving a balance due of $4,439.70. Claim for payment of th[...]: "No contract for debt hereafter made with a member of the Osage Tribe of Jnclians not ha,•Jng a certificate of competency, shall have a n~• validity unle,s .,,pproved by the Secretar[...]ased oil and gas production swelled the income to a point wbe1·e the <1uar• terly payments were[...]!VIosier (261 U. s. 852). Congress then took a bane! in the matte1· nncl by t11e act of[...] |
| [...], bowever, the only restriction upon the right of a member of the tl'ibe to mi1ke n cont,·act fo1· debt was that conrnlned in section 7 of the net of A1)ril 18, 1012 (37 SUit. 85), reading, in part, as[...]n contracted or incurred prior to tbc lssunuce or a ccrtlticnte of competency or remov,il of restrict[...]heritance, or 1·cmovnl of 1·estrlctions. It wns a rcsh·iction upon the power of the Indian to Incur a valid obligation by contract onl~· to the extent[...]tribe would add notbtng to the cx i~tlng hlw for. a:-- we hnve seen, s uch property was nlrcndy 1>rotectccl b~' section , of lhe net of A1>ril 18, 1912, suJ)ra; manifestly somethin[...] |
| [...]The early cornmon-law Yiew that by the mnklng of a mortgage the legal title to the laud was transferred to the mortgagee, bas through t11e a1>plicaLlon of equitable principles, largely been[...]octrine pre- valliJ1g In runny Stntes under which a mortgage ls regarded not ns co·eatlng an estate[...]eby. Roge1·s "· ,vare. (8 Allen, 887, 279.) Dut aa ,-alicl and existiii.; debt to which the mortgage[...]Supreme Court of tbe State of 11.Unols held Ulat a deed of trust, though valid under the Jaw of tbe[...]also State v. .,vuson (84 Pnc. 737), holding !bat a mortgage to secure a uill 01· note for which the consideration is in[...]ivitt "· Palmer (51 Am. Dee. 333), holding tl1at a deed of trust to secure a note Issued lo violation of a statute ls void.[...]that n mortgage is effcctiYe and. enforceable as a lien only If and when It secures a valid cl.a im. .[...]FiA-,t A.ss~ta.,1-1. Secretary. Sir. J. GEORG" ,v&1oaT,[...],, |
| [...]Any restricted nnd ndult Indian desiring to mnke a loan on real estate seeurcd by first mortgages sb[...]nt, and Judge J.M. Hnm1>h1·eys, tribal nttorney. A report and appraisement by a Government field employee dCSig,inted for s uch p[...]dit. In such instances no loans will l>e made for a longe,· period than during the minority o[...] |
| [...]an of less than one-h,uf Iudinn blood entitled ns a mntter of right to n certificate of coml)etency?[...]On bus been (>resented whether 1111 Osage Indian, a minor nt the time of tJ1e pas;mgc of the net ot[...]Is upon reaching the age of 21 years entitled as a mutter of right to n <-ert,Oc!lte or comt>Ctency[...], i t must of necessity have been lntende<I thi1t a certlfl- cnte of com1>etency would Issue upon his becoming of age. '.l'he authority to issue a ce1•t1flcnte of comt>Ctenc)• Is found In the[...]lt member of the tribe, may issue to s uch member a certificate or competency, aut.horlz.lng him to s[...]which shall remnh1 inalienable and nootaxable for a period ot 25 years, or during the life of the hom[...]nro\'ided that " when the heirs of s uch deceased a llottecs hnve cert.ificate$ ot competency or are[...]couu·acted or Incurred prior to the Issuance of a certificate of competency or removal of restricti[...]ilm against the same arising prior to granting of a ce11ificate of competency." '.l'he next mention[...]hose adults of Jess than one· half Indian blood. A question which oatu~aJJy arises Is wbnt is the di[...]Court of the State of Oklahoma states: "There ls a material dis- Unction between the rcn10,,al of r[...]icularly true wheu the efrect of the Issuan(-c ot a cert1ftc11te Is defined In the net itself.[...] |
| [...]__ Nntlon, bas made ap11licntlon for the 1·emo,·a1 of restrictions from the following described lan[...]are resen·ed for the use or the Osage Tribe for a 11crlod of 40 YC!l l'S from A11ril 8. 1906, us provided in said net and the net[...]ing and <:nriog for ______ Individual affairs. A careful rending of the lnni;,·ua;!e of the "0l'd[...]competency their entire pro rota share "either us a member or the t ribe or heir of n decensed member[...]wblcl1 remove,; the rcStl'ictlons on alicitntlou a s to those udults who are of less- tbnn one-half[...]Pl'Ovide<l; and in U1ls connection I cnll· your a trentlon to H. R . 5726, Slxti.- t:HS,!'ht[...] |
| [...]of detrnctinr; fl'om that act tJwy ndd to it. A few cxnmples win su.fl1cc to tlem(lustrutc the tn[...]'rcncc must be had to tl1e net of 1006. Under the a ct of 1912, it Is provided that Ille S ecretory Is a11thorized to pay taxes on the lnnd of a decenscd member prior to J1is pn,.titlon. Ob,•l[...]tive. I f this be t1·11e, then the effect of a certificate of com1>etency now is as follows : 1. It is evidence of a determination by the Secretary of the Interior that a member is fully competeut and cal)able ot trnnsnc[...]ive nil of his funds, por can the member contract a lawful Indebtedness. Since lhe effect of the remqvnl of restrictions Is ,not the same as the lssuant-e of a certl6cate of competency, since Congress had vested In the Secretary authority to isime a certificate of competency, wl1en 11pon investlgat[...]ood is not upon reaching bis majority entitled as a right to n certificate of competent-y, b11t that this Is a question to be determined by tile Secretary when th() petition for a certificate is received and the Secretary has had[...]n. A. BAaN•"'·[...]01~ THE JNn:ruoa. My D>:AR MR. SDCREl'ARY: FQr a great many years It has been the rule nnd[...] |
| [...]oted Osage applicants for the purpose of securing a certificate of competency. No contract bus been p[...]ve and out of nil proportion as to what should be a reasonable tee in sueb· cases. ' I rec[...]A88i8la11t Secretary.[...]er, Osa-ge nllottee No. 1260, for the creation ot a trust for the benefit of his minor son, in accor[...]General has rendered 1111 opinion 11s to whether a trust of restricted IncUan funds may be created by agreement of the Indian and a trust eom1,nny wltli the approval of the[...] |
| [...]de of his department.. The auggested c1-e-uUon of a trust, in which the custody and con- trol ot the trust fuuds would be in a privute t111ste-0, would be an abdication on the[...]o create n J)rivnte trust of It by agreement with a trust company I know of no leg,ll ohjectlon to bi[...]or their heirs, quarterly. unrestricted. Said net a lso pro\·ldcd tb,n t upo n applicn- tlo11. ·ot[...]tion could tssue n certificate of competency, if, a ft er ln\'estlgrttlon. he found such n1>1,1tcant[...]her surplus lands, except homestead. The act. a1>Provcd Mar, S. 1921, remo,•('(] restrlctlons o[...]had not applied tor «rtlflcotcs or comp.etcncy. A$ the act ot Mar. 3, 1921 pro,•ided that only th[...]fClr mpncy, auch class of IudlanH fo rthwith made a1)PlicaUon tor 1mme, which acco\tots tor the lo.rgc number of ccrt1tlcate'l1 Issued In 1021, 1022, f\nd 192.a. |
| [...]pete11c11 /l1'ri11fl the ftacai v car 19il8 011a th e «mo,m.t tm,iea o~-er to eMh[...]b. 3, 1928 83,032$3 Edward A. L«lh>'···· ..... . ...... . 143[...]9.24. Shares of the Incllnns were paid In full to a ll who bail certlttcatE>S of competency. As s u[...]funds. It may be consid- ered, however, thnt In a large majority of cnses such Indians have not s1n[...]OI of tbe Secretary of the Interior. Jn 1920 a subcommittee of the House Incllan Comm itt[...] |
| [...]lieved In the best jud•ment of the com- mittee, a sufficient amount of money fo pro1x,rly care for[...]ittee, utter careful consideration, has presented a section which will pro,•lcle for the Impounding of a large amount of these funds fo1· the future bene[...]of nny funds which hnd been so Impounded." As a result of such report Congress by net ap11roved M[...]ed adult Indlaus of $1,000 per quarter, or $4,000 a )•ear, nll(l $1,000 per q,rnrter, or $4,000, n[...]es of IS and 21, nnd $500 per c1uarter, or $2,000 a year, for children u.nder 18 years, enrolled or u[...]under supervision of tbe superintendenL Said net a lso provided that snch adult Indians s hould 1·e[...]er nunum, 597 allotted Jndians receiving annually a11proxirnt1tely $687,767 in lntercs r, each receiv[...]· annually fQr tbemsetres .and : u1elr cblld,ren a to,t,al ·o.f $3,802,667, or nu a\'erage of $0,869. . .[...]lue of such real estate, and where t11c member Is a , resident or Oklahoma such Investment sha[...] |
| [...]ment of the property, nnd n deed taken containing a clause to restrict allenntion without u,e consent[...]n order that au approximate amount may be arrived a t ; they then sign au appli- cation for surplus f[...]le, the application of the In(llan, together wlUi a list. of the items of furniture and the prices quoted from dealers, a,-e sub· mitted to Washington for approval and authority for the Indians to use a specified amount from ·U>eir surJ)lus funds for[...]do to obtain other bids. In some lnsta.nces where a bid ,lower than the original• bid is obtained a[...], , A(ter the turuiture Is ·delivered, bill , of sale[...]hecked· in the st.ore and . marke<l "I D :• by a fielcl man in the employ of the agency, and i s a[...]ricted Indians have 110 legal ability to contract a debt and are unable to pny cash for automobiles. The Indians select a car to suit their own ideas, but a price limit hlls been f1,.xed with the approv,il[...]dians what muke of cars they should purchase. A dealer proposing to furnish a cur for an Indian ls required to make aftl[...] |
| [...]officer for his recom• mendntion. r-o cars nre ,a11tho1·i,,ed tor Indh1ns addicted to the use of l[...]intoxkated, and several ctisunlties occurring 8$ a result. _lf, af'ter inv<.•stigatiou, n car ts t[...]who mnke.s nu examination of the Indian's old car a nd advises as to the nroount of trade-in allowanc[...]er. New cars are not purchased tor Indians within a yen•· from date of last purchase nnd not until[...]y. in the uame or the United Stn tcs in trust tor a s1>ecified l1.1(1ian, to nvoid mortgnging 01· disposing or same. · Purchases of cars are not a uthorized for Indians who have unnuthorizccl inde[...]ed by tile court. '.l'he court will not authorize a loan in excess of :;o per cent of the np11raised[...]cation and court appralsement nre submitted here, a sepn1-ate appraisement ls obtained by a field man In the employ of this agency and !onus[...]ans li\'C. Each of the officers in question makes a weekly report ot his acth~ities to the superintendent, awl in these: reports a list of the Indians having been intoxicate[...] |
| [...]only persou authori7,ecl to scud s uch Indian If> a sanitarium. Section 2087 of the Revised Statut[...]matters affecting Incompetent Osage Indians, and a lso the estates of deceased Osage Indians. The act ot Congress mentioned nl:s-0 provides that "A copy· of nil pnvers filed in the county court sh[...]the Secretary of tbe Interior fol' the estate of a member of the Osage T ribe of Indians who does no[...]ian blood." A~RNEY FEES In cases where It Is necessary tha[...]s, the |
| [...]rvices have been performed. In other cases where a larger fee may be nutlclpated It ls believed advi[...]As8i-8ta11t SccretO'f'1/. AA. .... . . · - -- - - - --- ---- C. A. Fuller __ ____..... ......... $5,000, Sept. 19, l927, • This one has not been bsued a oertlfteate ot competency. |
| [...]ull... ........... 44 R. Sept. o. 1922 $5,000. ?\1a5•1nieE. Konworthy, o ·\ Vhiu . . .. ..... ....[...]$50 fro:n Jan. 1, 1923 ' a[...] |
| [...]payments from a.gen[...]a11mony; $50 per[...]$2,000 a year ror sup[...]busk:aAA'n.na·t.ee Cpu.ingbam . . . \\' bit[...] |
| [...]6;~9~ };le.1ldeoeo:i-O 0. ,T,1s., Louise Pantber, a .•• : .... l~1... Onc-siftoonth . . ..[...] |
| [...]... ... 30 n. Apr. ~ um no use a nd lot at 1ozc E . Mtlrttll!OWhitetail... . . . .[...]. . . . . . . ... .... . . lllh S t-. , l>awbust a,[...]• · · · ·, ···· · · ::.:·· Ol.la., a nd $4,500[...]60 C. C . N'O\'. 7, lffl CBdlllac car and $6,000. A.goes Perrier . . .. . . . . ... . \Vhfte • .•[...]R. NO\' , 7, 1927 $10,000 and $500 J)6r M a ry M m er.•· ·- ········ \\'bile .•[...]minor. \Vm. A. D eal. • • • •• ••• • •• U[...]R . Mar. 21, 1928 $10,000. Alm.a Wbhe, , . . ...... . .. '\' bite.. • ••.•[...]•• . • • •••.•••••. A ndrew Hunt.. . .• . . .•. • .• 1362.. . O[...]urth •. . ..•• '4$ C.C. F e.b, 6. 1028 $100 a limony And s up- Nellie J. Revard . . •- . ...[...]ven-slxteeot-h . 40 R. sept. 28, 1928 $2•.$00 c-a.~h. $:250 attor• Ruth Jo"ronkier, , .. . . . .[...].. . ... . ..... . ne>· ree. Char lttt \'•l aa&.•[...]plaln1lff, S200a ttoruey[...] |
| [...]judgment of Dece'mb<ir 17, 1925, bas been vacated a n<l one' da fod May 4,l 1926, has been s ubmitted' in lieu thereof. This judgment of i\lay 4, 1026, makes a property settlement ns follows : Property described, valued a~ Sti,000; cas,h for the wife, $10,000; $2,000 nl,[...]hday, payable 91mrterly; nttorne,Y"s fees in tl1e a_moillJt of $1,500; and costs. • '£bis• judgm[...]ti,ie child be cbmi;;ed .. o~ s hould J;llere be a substantial depletjon of the estate of the dcfe,n[...]George ?llorrell, Jr., becomes· 21 years of age, a1,1cl you should also have George l\·l orrell execute a deed fo,r the l,)rop- crty mentloi1ecl in sni<I j[...]vious correspondence· tlrnt George ll!orrell has a balance of $27,231.41, as shown by account No. 0-[...]A.ssislant Secretary. Chief FRED LooKOUT was thereupoi:i called as a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testi[...]· Senator FRAZIER. ' The Osages have a business council or so,nething -of that kind 1[...]· Chief LooKOUT" Yes.;· they have a business. coudcil. Senator FRAZI F.R. ·Ho,v[...]. . 1 Senator ,Ea.izn:il. · .A,sk;•the chief, 1£ he, }ins a statement he ,vants to malie' to this committee as a representative of his tribe. '[...] |
| [...]DIANS IN UNITED STATES Senator WIIEELER. Speak a. little louder. |
| [...]to you what I hear. I an1 inclined to .think that a big part of the Indian's 1noney is expended beyon[...]re other I ndians here ,vho 1nay ,vant to n1ake a state1nent and I would like for you to give the[...]Chief LooKou·r. No, sir. Senator FnAzn:a. What about the hen.Ith condition of the Osage Indians? Chief LooKOUT. I ,vill 1nake a statc1nent according to what I see of my own pe[...]1ny people and see what they want and we will a'raft a bill or anything we want to submit to C[...] |
| [...]But there is no provision for the1n to go and get a college education 1 Chief L-001,ou-r. So1neti[...]an get nlong. . Senntor FnAZIEJt. Are there quite a lot of these orphan children Chief LooKooT.[...]1 ell there are quite a number of them; yes. Senator FRAZIER. Is ther[...]here is 1nuch u1ore r'oom. I understand there are a number e will take a recess now unt,il 1.30. (1\t 12 o'clock a recess wa,s taken until 1.30 o'clock p. m. of the[...]v right has been in the service for over 40 years a1nong the various Indian tribes. He has been among the Five Civilized 'l'ribes as commissioner and also a1nong the 1'wo Indians and while he has been with[...]right be retained as our superintendent for this a.g ency. Some time ago I wrote to the |
| [...]ll'uslt/.nuton, A1>rit '1, 1930. lifr. FRED LOOJ(OUT ,[...]ire- ment cases It has l.>ccn ne<:cssary to adopt a very defi nite policy and it was not felt Uint it[...]ary. PAUL RF-1> EAor,E was thereupon called as a witness and, after be- ing first duly sworn, test[...]preter), as follows: Senato1· FnAzIER. Are you a 1nember of the tribal council 1 Mr. REo EAGLE. No, sir. Sen:itor FRAZIER. Have you a state,nent you want to 1n:1ke to the COllllllltte[...]ike to take up, but Y,e hns got it in the form of a resolution or petition sign.ed by son1e,vheres al[...]been forwar<led to the depart- ment, but he ha.s a copy of it which he wishes to submit here to the[...]ate nnture as to require the skill nnd ubility of a mnn s11cl1 as J . Geo. ,vrlght to J)roperly look[...]i;n- latlons concerning clvll scr;•ice In the m_a tter 9f the tenure ot l1is office; noel |
| [...]tricate mntte~s lnvqh:ed, concerning which he has a superior knowledge to any other ruan tl1nt could[...]oo,mcll in sessi.On assembled this 29th da11 of J(a.-ch, 1980, That the Congress of the United States[...]s, be extended, subject to removal for cause, for a period of four years and as much longer as[...] |
| [...]6823 - Senator ,VHEELF.R. This is a statement that Red Eagle has filed [reading) : }l[...]Osage Nation bas been reduced from about $13,000 a year, or more than $1,000 per month, to $1,620 per year, or but a llttle more than $100 11cr mouth: that the ex1>en[...]hnt we are not ,only paying the Federal employees a lnrge amount of money to look after our aO:alrs b[...]mbers are mixed blood nnd with one member who has a certitlc.n te (lllcl with one representative of t[...]e elections that are to be held th1,1t it require a majority of nil the . votes cast to elect[...] |
| [...]the purpose of further diminishing the expense of a,lministering ·Osage affairs by the depnrtmcut an[...]>cords, for the reason that s uch methods require a larger number ot employees, and consequently grea[...]used.) Chief BACONRIND was thereupon called as a witness, and, after· be- ing first duly sworn, t[...]says he is an Osage I ndian. My Osages have built a boarding sch'ool and a property over there that belongs to the Os[...] |
| [...]er that is ;ood or ,vhether it is bnd they spend a lot of money and we have a ooarclin.., school. 1' his properliy •consists of·so acres a;'ld has everythir1~ tqat they nee~, such as dining Toorn and for farffilng purposes, a oarn for the livestock, and so fo_rth. I am aski[...]he office. 'fhese clerks are taking over $200,000 aa written state,nent and file it ,vitb the co1n1nit[...]sed.) GEORGE ALBERTA was thereupon called as a witness, and, after being first duly s,vorn, te[...]RTA. Pa,vh\iskn. · Senator FRAZIER. You are a member of the tribal council here? Mr. ALBER[...]· Mr. ALBERTA. By convention and a vote of the Osage Tribe. . Senat[...]ER. How do they vote on it? Mr. ALBERTA. At a general election. Senator ,VHEELER. How do they cast their vote- by a secl'et ballot or do they come into a convention hall i l',fr. ALBERTA. By[...] |
| [...]DIANS lN UNITED STATES Senn tor FnAzJER. At a convention; a genernl county convention t |
| [...]UNITED STATES 6827 Mr. 1\1,nER'l'A. 1'hey nre 1nailcd to different ones throughout t[...]ll. How rnany were at the corn•ention ? Mr. A1,1JEll'l'A, '!'here was one convention where there were ,vei[...]here with one-eighth blood 1 Mr . .ALlJEll'l'A. Six. Senator "\:VnE1;1.ER. Who counts the vo[...]loyees 1 Senn tor \'VREELl:n. Yes. i\'fr. A1.nERTA. About 85, I think; somewhere near 85.[...]About 85. That includes the subngency 1 l\1r. A1.nERTA. And all field agents and office force.[...]tates and act as attorney for then11 You pny hirn a retainer of, somebody sa.id this morning, $5,000 a year. i\1r. ALnEllTA. Yes, sir. Senator '\VHEELER. You pay him $5,000 a year. Now, is that th e total you pay him 1[...]HEELER. "\Vhy does not your tribal attorney look a.fte1· all these estate matters instead of havin[...]. Sen ator WHEELER. "\V hy1 Mr. ALu1:n1•A. Because ·when an Indian dies his estate[...] |
| [...]1:lr. \VRIGHT. Well, he represents them as far a-she can. We have no control. 'l'he net of 1912 gi[...]existing law, every faper that is filed in court, a copy ,nust be filed in the agency, and i they are[...]RIGRT. This is Mr. Stivers. He has just been here a few· months. Senator \V'm:EI.J-;11. He tells m[...]would be out of the question to ever consider for a rno1nent that the tribal attorney should be aboli[...]things that other- wise they would have to employ a lawyer for everything. Senator WHEEIJ:R. I think that is a good idea for them to have n tt·ibal counsel1 my[...]r '\Vm.ELER. I "'otud say these full-bloods, need a. little, education in polit.ics. |
| [...]number of the original allottees, of the 2,229. I a,n just giving an approximation. -1 do not kno,v t[...]t is, that have any vote. The chief only votes in a case of tie. Senator WHEELER. Two full-blood[...]1nixed bloods in the nation '? Mr. Ar.:ut:R'l'A. None that I know of. Senator "\Vn1:.ELER. No[...]nu1nber. I do not believe t.he full bloods have a voting strength to exceed 125 of the possible. 15[...]sERTA. Very good. Senator \VnEEl-ER. Apparently a co,nplaint was sent in to the. departn1ent about[...]fact about that 1 Mi·. ALBERT,\. I can not sec a.nything to thnt state1nent. Property- v,1l[...] |
| [...]IONS O'F INDIANS IN UNITED STATES Mr. ALBERT'A. I do not think there is n.nything whntever to th[...]is 3'0Ur opinion as to the nu1nber? |
| [...]1 y,ears. old or,o,ver, and whether or not he. is a 1neinber of the tribe. .Another is one of the field officials who just me1·ely n,cts as 1a strperyisor,to-see,that everything is cn,rried.ou[...]ons covering an election. . Senator FRAZIER. Are a.ny,xnembers of your executive or business council[...]oll¥ . · Mr. A.ldlERTA. No, sir; none.[...]In your estimation does you1· ,vay of selectino- a business council fairly represent the Osage India[...]ir; the ,way ,vc select those, Senator. They hold a conventiont-- .[...]is certified to by their chairman and sent to the a.gency for the names on the ticket to, go on the ballot. The full bloods do not attend the con- ventions a great deal of the mixed bloods. , 'fhose are less[...]convention, do you get the full bloods to put up a couple of tickets so that .you can trim them¥[...]. ALBERTA . It was discussed once or· twice ancl a bill was intro- duced by Senator Tho1nas and. Con[...]1ns to be they do not want to force or get 6ehind a bill that the tril5e, ,vho "' Ould be tt ffected[...]? Do these judges around here in this county make a political football out of these guardiansh[...] |
| [...]rin- tendent here 1 Mr. ALnERTA. Well, we have a very high regard for Mr. Wright and his agency fo[...]estate we have heard con1plaints about? l'>ir. A1.ni,;11TA. No, I do not, Senato1·; only just wha[...]nvo told us she was an incompetent Indian. Mr. A1.11El\'rA. Dea;f and dtunb. . Sen[...]. Does not the council take them up when there is a co1nplaint that so,ne ,nember of the tribe is bei[...]l'>{r. ALlll:RTA. The only way we could take up a ,natter of that kind is to c,ill it to t.he atten[...]dian. Senator ,VHEELl:R. '\Veil, this is quite a noto1·ious case down here, this l'>:largaret Goody case. bfr. A.LIJE1rrA. ,,,ell, I do not know. It did not creat[...]id about it 1 J',{1·. ALBERTA. ,,, ell, it is a long story abou t how she got before. the[...] |
| [...]6833 Senator FRAzn:n. Some little time a.go this Co1n1nittee on I ndi11n Affai1-s of the Senate sent a n1an by the narne of 'fatro,v down here to n1ake[...]d. Senato1· FRAZIER. He got state1nents fro1n a nurnber of people down here nnd afterwards we rec[...]ree were Indians. Senator F'RAZJ:ER. You have a copy of the state1nents that were made to l\1r. '[...]council did 1 JI.fr. ALBEIITA. Yes ; ,ve had a copy in the council at the time. Senator FRAZIER. \V'here did you get that copy? ~Ii·. A.t.nEnTA. T. J. Leahy gave it to the council.[...]of them were o-ettiner 1narriecl. JI.fr~ Aw:ii,A. Yes : I think that is the state1nent.[...] |
| [...]council consider the expenses necessary and make a recommendation to the superintendent's office fo[...]ill be of benefit to the agency. It will give you a chance then to be heard at som~ stng:e of the pro[...]e. I will say to you 1f you will do that ~here 1s a chance for you to. get ,vhat you want exactly. Senator WHEELER. And not only-send •a copy to the depart.ment but send a copy of it to the chairman of the Senate c_ommitt[...].1 l\1r. ALDERTA. In the selection of a superintendent here the Osage I ndians hn.ve alwa[...]at is, the Osage 'l'ribe-as to the selec- tion of a superintendent here. Mr: Wright is retiring on ac[...]Mr. ALBERTA. No. Senator THo~rAs. Is it not a fact that your trib?l council requested that l\1r[...]d you who you would like to have or asked you for a recom1nendation 1 iVIr. A1.nEI1TA. No; ,ve have never been consulted[...] |
| [...]ith the Secretary. Senator FRAZtf:R. You mean a delegation of your council went down to Washingt[...]FRAZIER, vVas the question taken up at all about a. new superintendent 1 Mr. ALBERTA: Yes, sir;[...]'RS noncommittal on the question. He said it was a matter that would have to be taken up personally[...]tor TH0~1As. What did he tell you? Mr. ALBER'l'A. Nothing. He said he had written a letter to the chiet.._Chief Lookout, stating he[...]the depart- ment to continue 111r. ,V'rigbt for a longer period 1 • l\lir. AI,riEn-rA. Senator, w[...]Senator THOlIAS. Mr. Wright is able t.o give you a continuation of his pa~t. services, is he not1 Mr. ALBER'l'A. ~\bsolutely. You can judge for yourself. fie is[...]years! Mr. ALBERTA. Yes, sir. ,ve have passed a resolution, I think not less than three, request[...]g to stay 1 . Mr. .J\.LBER'l'A. "\-Veil, ,ve did not consult him, but I th ink i[...]to stay ~e would, by the department. It is really a shame to take him away at t his time. Sennto[...]e of these Indians, that hnd fallen fro1n $18,000 a year clown to about $1,400 or $1,500 a year, "'hich is about " 'hat it is running now. 1'hose clays of prosperity a1nong the Osages, there were quite a number of the Indians who were under guarclinnship and quite a number of the,n- of the full bloods I 111n t.'l.1[...]re certificates ,vere rev.oked they did not have a dollar left. They are going nlong at this time o[...]Osage Indians and knows ho,v to cope ,vith such a situation as he does. Sennt.or 'fiio~I[...] |
| [...]BERTA. '\' e did. Sennt.or '!'HOMAS. Hn ve you a copy of thnt paper 1 l\fr. ;\LDERTA. No; but w[...]inutes. Sennlor 'I'HOMAS, Send somebody to get a copy of it inlmediately. I ,vould like to suggest[...]t is all right. Senator TIIOl\lAS. I will make a 1notion that the committee indorse that resolution and send a telegram to l\{r. Wilbur, expressing our viewpoin[...]ut the situation. Senator 1'no~rAs. ~'!'his is a good t ime to find out. Senator '\,V11EELER. T[...]dis- satisfied with Mr. Wrightf Mr. .ALBEil'l'A, Senator, yes, sir; I expect there are. You could[...]u would do for the1n. Senator WHEELER. Here is a copy of a petition signed by.about 70 Indians protesting ag[...]Do you recall ty whnt vote the present council or a 1najority of the present council were elected ut[...]ELER. You menn this, that the council did not get a majority but just a plurality1 l\{r. ALBERTA. A plurality. '!'here were three tickets in the fiel[...]on that the council 1ne1nbers shall be elected by a 1najol'ity of the votes cast? l\{r. AwrmTA. No[...]'fhat makes it easy, where the full bloods put in a cou1>le of tickets and the 1nixed bloods put in o[...]then the third ticket in t.he field, I think, had a few 1nore full bloods thnn it did mixed bloods. Senator FnAZl:ER. Do you not think it would be a fu.irer proposition if they were required to get a majority1 |
| [...]g have you been on the council? Mr. Atnt:n-i·A. I served 10 years up to this year. If I ser,·e[...]l recoIDJnending ~:Ir. )Vri.,.ht, there has been a protest on the part of these other Indians, and'![...]Senator 'I'Ho~ras. 'I' his agency here is purely a business proposi- t ion is it not? Mr. AwimTA[...]to end? .. ~:Ir. 1\.LnF.R'rA. Yes, sir; it is a bus1ness propos1t1on. Senator '!'HO.MAS. A sociologist ,vould not be of any particular benef[...]I ndians need anything but sociologists. He needs a gooct hard-hearted financier and a man that can undershind Indians there, such as 1Y[...]ot th ink they need it here much. Mr. ALDER'l'A. I t 1ink so. Senator THOl\IAS. Does Mr. Wright have a position known as assist.ant superintendent here?[...]zation except l:Ir. ,:vright? ~fr. ALIIER·1·A. I have not studied the position of so1ne of those that have acted as an assistant in a ,vay to Mr. Wright or just what their duties have[...]es, sir. He has one young 1nan ,vith hi1n that is a very fine, efficient young 1nan. He is not a younit n1an either, but I do not lu10,v ju[...] |
| [...]ved here in: this county? M1-. HmIPHREYS. A little over, seven ·years. . •[...]hat did not know what he was talking about. I a1n satisfied tibat I handled the case as ,veil as[...]bnnc\led it. Senator WHEELER. ,ve have had a nu1nbel· of co1nplaints 'COIDe in with ·ref[...].l' he facts are t hese: Thnt :i\1argaret G'6ode, a ft\ll-1,llood restricted Osng:e Indian woman,[...]ears of nge at thnt t ime, deaf and dumb, had a guardian who lived at 1F'il'irfax, an old gen[...]l-Iorsell, ,vho placed her at Sulphur Springs, Ok1a., where they have an institute for t h[...] |
| [...]!'here ,vas noth111~ ca1ne of anything here until a deaf 1nute counsel wanted to 1nnrry J\'.farga.ret, a white mnn who ,vas causina consider- nble troubl[...]gua1'dian, that they had to threaten hi,n ,vith a gun to kl:ep him away from this deaf and dumb gi[...]bate files and r ecords of the Osage Indians for a considerable length of time. ,vhen I c1une here t[...]ssary to serve the superintendent of tl1c Osa_ge A~ency ,vith no~ice of all pnpers filed. '!'hey !ta[...]. I took the position that it was 1nandatory and a condition precedent to the county court ac[...] |
| [...]INDIANS IN UNITED STATES ill and was confined to a hospital ut Ponca City. During this time |
| [...]ip and the straightening out of the affairs, and a guardian appointed which would be suitable to the[...]ere ,vas some challenge made about the account by a doctor over at Claremore which I thought was excessive and told the court so. That is a matter of record, also. That came about in this ,[...]Goode was living at Fairfax. She was kidnaped by a fel- lo,v who gave her a venereal disease. l{ubler, the guardian, ,vith t[...]e d1str1ct court ot tins county 1n the nature of a11abeasc corpus to recover t-he body of iVIargaret[...]instruction~ ns to ,vhat should be done, nor the a1nount of 1noney that should be <.'xpended. Judge[...]f anJ the C?unty attorney for protection nnd Mr. A.nderson and the sheriff appointed two n1en, \\'h[...]pened, and they undertook to protect her in such a way as to keep l'lforrison and this husband fro1n[...]fter the girl had been returned to·the guardian a bill was presented by Doctor Deason to the[...] |
| [...]as meant by the act si1npl¥ ,vas that the $1,000 a quarter ,vbich ,vas given to the Indians for thei[...]egally to these guardians. It seems that there is a ~eneral agreement between l\fr. Burke and 1',{r.[...]don, who was later the disbursing officer for the a~ncy, organized an auditing committee con1posed of[...]the guardian. I put that question up to t hem in a men1oranclu1n. They see1ned to think that, notwit[...]as " One into. Under 111y contract it ,vas 1ny a'uty to do ,vhatever t he Secretary wanted[...] |
| [...]representing the Secretary's office, hindered me a great deal in the trial of that case. He seemed t[...]that he also had the r ight to try it. I-le filed a brief nnu pre- vented my presenting that case th[...]i\t case "'as presented to the court. 'fhere ,vns a, volu1ninous record n1ade, much larger than should have been made. It is the only court t hat cQufd bear· a charge against a guardian under the act of 1912 because the net s[...]s under guardianship and if anyone n1ade n charge a~ainst -~1r. "\Yright that he was not prope[...] |
| [...]IN·D IANS IN UNITED STATES of contradiction, a rnan is likely to make mistakes, but when my |
| [...]a.y nny atten- tjon to that. Paul ca1ne in and as a. fl"icndly gesture on 1ny part I just hooked it t[...]py that was sent to the secretary ,vas sio-ned by a nu1nber of na1ncs1 "'i•Ir. H u~u•JHIBYS. I[...]plctecl. I ,1111 not sure I loiew there wns such a paper in existence. It 111ight be possible it was[...]tbnt we are not only paying the Federal employees a large amount of money to look after our affairs b[...]ably 200 full-blood Indians under guardianship. I a1n just guessing at this t i1ne because I have not[...]guardinns1 l\'Ir. Hu1111•HntYS. 'fhey ha.vc a Ininin1um fee of $250 for the adults and about half of that for the attorneys. Of course if the estate is a large estnte it is beyond that. Senator FRAzn:n. You said a minimum fee 1 1\:1:r. H u~cP1rnEYS. Yes, sir.[...]have one in 1nind where the guardian gets $3,000 a. year and the attorney gets $750, or maybe $900. I o-uess it is $900. 'fhat is the highest one I know a.nytlnng about. That is a large estnte. This Indian ~ns prob- ably seven or[...]or did have uetwecn $60,000 and $70,000, besides a large accumulation in the ollice of perhnps-I luive not kept track of it but it is a large estate in effects . Senator THo~cAs'. ,v[...]ts. in your judg1nent? ~{r. Hu)1PMREYS. About a million and a half. |
| [...]rAS. Do you consider that an exorbitant ·fee for a man to manage one and one half million dollars 1[...]rnment field clerks ,vrote in about in answer t-0 a letter that ,vas sent to him: I have your Jett[...]t by Mary Iugrah,,m and H. N. Cook. I have bad a conference with ~tary Ingraham and it appeal"S th[...], she actually derived $79,375.00 as evidenced by a deposit to her credit in U1e l,'alrfax National Bank of Fairfax, Oklahoma, on October 18, 1924. And a.gain: Against this l>alauce on October 18, 1924[...]care about the details of it. Mr. H u~IPHREYS. A full-blood Indian iirI 1nade a ,viii to a ,vJ1ite woman nnd t here wns 11, contest on the w[...]this Indian girl or hei r. I thought then it was a pretty good settlement nncl still think so[...] |
| [...]ink so. I will tell you ,vhy I think so. ,ve have a jud~e here who is part Indian hi1nself. lle is p1[...]ed are large, yet considering the estates and the a1nount of "'ork necessary to be done I can not say[...]; he has no fixed rule in allowing that mur:h of a fee. This fee covered a period of five or six years; it gre,v out of the[...]Senatpr,VIIEELER. Well, ,vhat do they charge in a straight settle- ment1 What does the judp:e allo[...]min- istrator 's fees is allowed for the c;tiard1a11ship fees. Senator W ~EELER. Yo.u mea[...] |
| [...]- Senutor ,vnEELt:n. Each one of the1n have a guardian, has he 1 l\£r. 1-IuMPllREYS. Not all of them. Senator F1u\zrf:11. E ither a. gua1·dian or an attorney 1 l\fr. l·loMPHREYS. Most of them have either a guardianship or an attorneyship. Sena.tor FRAZIER. Some of them both a. guardianship and an attor- lleyship? l'.l{r.[...]selves. Senator FnAZIER. One attorney will be a guardian for one Indian a,nd attorney ,for another Indian and vice versa?[...]PHREYS. Yes, sir; considerable. Senator '\oVH1a:1,E11. Are there any prosecutions of bootleggers?[...]ted States court. Senator vVHEF.Ll:R. Is this a. reservation do,vn here 1 Mr. HUMPHREY[...] |
| [...]o not have as high-priced automobiles as they did a fe,v years ago, but I do not kno,v of an Indian, not of my acquaintance, that has not a car of so1ne kind. Senator WHEELER. Has much of their 1noney been taken a"'llY from them in da1nage suits that have been br[...]here have been suits for alimony by white ,vo1nen a.gainst these Osage Indians. Senator WHEELER. By a white women marrying the Indian, then suing him f[...]there been do,vn herei Mr. Hu111PHREYS. Quite a little bit of it; not as much as there was sorne[...]es ,vhere as high as $60,000 I think ,vas allowed a white wo1nan in a suit against an Indian for alimony.[...]. 1\1r. HuJ11PHREYS. Ifes; we have a few of them. Senator WHEELER. How do t[...] |
| [...]The deparhnent has held that "'here an Indian was a competent Indian and was under guardianship, if[...]unt of money that to hini-$75 a week-and upon that showing they revoked Jo Cono'[...]}IPHREYS. Oh, yes. Senator WaEE1£1<. vVho is a guardian in more than one estatct 1\1:r. HUMP[...]Well, I would just have to estimate it. Proba~ly a dozen. There are probably a dozen men who have more •than •one guardiansh[...]ur or five 1 1\1:r. HUMPHREYS. Yes, there are a fe.,v. Senator "\¥HEELER. Can you give 1ne t[...]se in the sa1ne business that McGuire is that has a half a dozen ·of these estates i Mr. Hu11rP.FJ.RF;Ys. There was a time here, 'Senator, when one fa1nily woul[...] |
| [...]l\fr. HmtPHREYs. Not that I kno,v of. There wiis a little com- pla.int nt one ti1ne, but that ,vas i[...]The la,v linuts the nu1nber of guardianships that a ,nan may have in this State to five. Sena.tor WHEELER. Did this particula.r ,nan 1nake it a business to go out and solicit guardianships or was he appointed by reason of the fact that he ,vas a friend of the court or n friend of the super- int[...]REYS. Oh, I do not kno,v. Senator WHEEX.En. Or a friend of the Indian? Mr. Hu:11rPHREYS. It might be a. little of all of that. I could not . tell you.[...]and I think Mr. \¥'right, too, we always wanted a guardian that was friendly to the Indian, if it w[...]wo lately. Senator "\VBEELEll. Do they make it a practice to have 1nen ap- pointed and then the me[...]bly three. One of them was Witty Conner, ,vho was a white 1nnn and was l50ing down into Mexico ,vho wanted to appoint his ,vife. He 1nacte a pretty good sho,ving and I approved that.[...] |
| [...]N UNITED STATES Senator WHEELER. Well, when a man "ets power of attorney, a |
| [...]s, sir · son1e of then1 have been through; quite a nun1bcr of thetn starting through. They have been checked, ho,v- ever, by a decision of the rcforee that thei1· 1nineral int[...]·uptcy cou1·t and that has stopped it. Thore is a. cnse pending in the circuit court of appeals to[...]ut that1 Mr. H uMPJU1EYS. ,:veil, I do not know a great deal about it. I do know th is, that a ,great 1nany of these Indians that had guardians[...]e understood from the office that there are quite a large number of those full bloods. I do not know[...]ter1n two years. Senator Flli\ZIER. That was a plank in his platforrn in his cam- pa.ign 1 l\{r. H OMPHREYS. Yes; that was a plank in his platfonn. Prae- · tically all of th[...]n1ade beyond the fact that there 1night have been a " 'ord or two changed.[...]s the real care of t11e Indians is concerned is a question that is subject to considerable debate a[...]s that right 1 Mr. l-Im1rHREYS. 'l'l1ere are a few of thmn have it that I know of. S[...] |
| [...]e looks after that. Senator FRAZIER. You have a county nurse here, have you not1 l\:lr. H uMP[...]r. HmtPHREYS. Yes. I am satisfied she is. That is a , Govern- 1nent nurse who has an office in the b[...]e is any member of the committee that thinks for a second I have overlooked anything,_I want to say[...]e five years I was tribal counsel I had not lost a single solitar[ case for the Osa~e Tribe of Indians nor the individual 1nembers o that tribe. That 1s a. n1atter of record which you can investigate for[...]en to know anything about this purported copy of a pt·otest sent to the departn1ent? · ~:fr. HmlPH[...]ndividuals. Senator WH.:ELER. Well, of course, a man would not be superin- tendent of any r[...] |
| [...]GFX>ltOl'J A. HENRY,[...] |
| [...]A.smtant Chief. GEORGJ,: A. Hi;NRY,[...]0S""-G.& INDIAN A GENCY,[...]er 26, 1928. $tNATE CO!.UUTn"!E ON l r,"DIAN .A.FFAlllS, Waah,[...]hat the superintendent of tbe Osage Agency Is a necessary party and that se1"\-ice upon him is mn[...]ere the estate exceeds $20,000 in value. Then a semiannual report Is mandatory. Question N[...]roceedings with this office is likely to work a hardship on theit· clients, especially when real-estate transactions a re Involved, as In tbe settling of est[...] |
| [...]Answer. By the trlbnl attorney generally. In a few cases the tribal attor- ney has been assisted by counsel employed by the a llottecs. Generally, how- ever, all expenditures nnd disbursements nre made upon an a1>11llcntlon tiled and served upon the s uperinte[...]sage Agency. In all disburse- ments <Jf funds by a guardian ti hearing Is had in the county cou r•[...]y cou rt authorizing the expenditure even though a hearing may have been had, In which event the gua[...]istrators? Answer. Gul/rdl.ans are allowed as a general thi ng about $250 for repre- senting a ward for one year If the amount of the money on l[...]some Instances, however, as low ns $50 has been a llowed a guardian for services rendered for an Osage Indian minor ·with a small estate. The large.s t estate bandied by thi[...]- neys on~balf that sum. This IS the largest fee a llowed for an Osnge India n -estate. Mary Elkins[...]ited and inelmling her own. and ber guardian has a very large estate accmnulated of um·estricted m[...]lowance must not exceed the amount of commissions a llowecl by this section ." Question No. 8. Bo[...]nt. The following fees have been agreed upon: A minimum fee of $200 nnd a maximum fee of $350 In partition cases where the estate involved Is less than $0,000 in Ynlue. A minimum fee of $350 and a maximum fee of $750 where the estate l1wolved Is from ${>,000 to $10,000 In ,-nlue. A minimum fee of $750 nnd a maximum fee of $1,250 where the estate Involved I[...]ses one-ha lf t he amount allowed the guardian is a llowed to tbe attorney unless extraordinary servi[...]nt Is not sntislled with the ruling of the court, a n 11ppea1 is taken to the dls1.-1ct court. Qu[...]$100 I$ tlic minimum fee. '.rile genernl fee for a divorce case where It Is contested is $250. The f[...]beon appealed to the s upreme court of the State a nd large property Interests are hn'olved . I do not know of bu t one or two cases where a tee of $5,000 hns been allowed In divorce[...] |
| [...]w of any case Involving an Osage In,Ua,n in which a fee of 50 11er cent bas been asked and I do n[...]y obtained n judgment for $200 and asl<ed for a fee of $400. This case, however, was never\ submi[...], · Question No. 16. A1·e merchants Inclined, generally, to surc[...] |
| [...]ks Into their ·confidence and that this would be a practical Impossibility, since If a number o! clerks were in on a thing ot this kind it ,vould soon become/ general[...]. , t , A number of chain stores· bn ve recently come to ][...]em of cxpeoditnt·es bas been high-priced cars.. A number of lndiaus, after tbey re• celved certif[...]1rge settlements. I understand that .tber~ are a few cases.. ,~bere the ludi~ns. hnve gotten -in w[...]e as tbe Indians' are not prone to complain alter a thiug of this kind happens, nnd there is no way f[...]tency? · . Answer. Not generally. In aa1>poiuted over them? If so, nbout bow many? Ans[...]ge of the district in which the applica nt lives. A report is ma de by the field man s howing[...] |
| [...]agreed on sketches, plans nod sriecificatlons a.r e pre1>11red and finally submitted to the India[...]ians which l\l'C not subj ect to taxation. A. S. SANDS was called as a witness and, after being first cluly sworn, t[...]follo,vs: Senator FRAZIER. You1· nnme is A. S. Snnds~ Mr. SANDS. Yes, sir. Sen[...]. Senator , vHEELER. You have been holding a power of attorney fro,n so1ne of these Indian[...]r ,vnEELER. F rom what othor I ndians do you hold a po,ver of attorney? l\fr. SANOS. I hold a po,ver of at torney for Charles Brown. Sen[...]nll it no,v, but I think I hacl one so1netime a«o for one other. Senator ,vao:LER. Ho,v l[...]for no li1nited t ime, ns I recall 1t. It rs a question of paying up the debt and being r[...] |
| [...]SANDS. No, sir. 'l'he one I hold now is of about a ono thirty- second dogree blood. Mrs. Polbnan, a ,vo1nan of about 33 to 35 years of a.0 e. · Senator'\vHEELER. Is she a restricted Indian 1 1\1r. SANDS. No; she is p[...]istance in that matter ,vas called for because of a mort~age indebt- edness, an indebtedness she could not pay and she could not take care of. I t ,vas a question of obtaining credit. Tho only wiiy that[...]act in that capacity1 1\1r. SANOS. If it is a client of the office, not.bing other than the at[...]lly I tako no po,ver of attorney unless 1t is for a client of our office and intorost on 1noney advan[...]ancement o:t 1nonoy for that Jnu·pose, I prepay a power of attorney, if they so <lesiro it[...] |
| [...]due me. • Senator Wru:Ei.En. You l1eld a power o'f attorney for one Red Corn, an Indian did you not¥ l\<Ir. SANDS. Yes; I believe .it was a po,ver of attorney. We had. a -contract of en1ployment there and I think ther[...]se. Senator '\VI·IEEI.ER. Was •Red Corn a full, blood Indian i l\fr. SANDS. Yes, sir[...]ersons, including notes ,given tor alimony, and a current monthly allowance or $150 per month for[...]business satsfnctorily, nnd desires to employ A. S. Sands 11s his agent for the p11rpose of h[...]Raymond Red Corn, party of :the first part, and A. $. Sands, for himself and said firm, as second p[...]nd does hereby retain nod em1Jloy second parties, A. $. Sands, as his agent, and $ands & Campbell[...]sum of $400 per aunum, payable $100 quarterly in a<lvancc, and in addition thereto nil nec[...] |
| [...]!$ P)RY be f11ll7 11,qui~atw, and • paid within a rensonoble time. , r. . , ,[...]eir, res~tlve nnmes, · thl/s 28th' dny of March, A'. D. 1924. ,.. 1 , .l.(,[...]By A'. $. $ANDS, ~ Senatdr :WHE¥.r.ER'. I h 1this 1nsfance ,you did ~'1:i,a rge hjni '.an, 'a t,to1;- 'ney's fee and in additioh charged him in[...], durin,.a >[...]t you dtd not say that. . Mr._SA/S'l).I!_, Bu~ 't~a,t .is wH~tJ the fqcis .~re and those accounts hav[...]s are Ji~Jd al~o at the a'.g~1 \cy f91· ched<i\ig up. . . • 1[...]~1ttee. '!'his notation . says y9u, ai:e I,JOt ,a;cc;n1ntable to .aa liona 1filetl at the agenef ·with those[...]trap5l\ction.' Senator ,v~ELER. -You &le a oond· with the power of n€torney1 l\fr[...]I l' lit ,a.. year·I or two ,after'[...], S~nator PINE. ,vhnt ,v_a~. Y?tn; , practtt e 1~ con9ect1pn "";~th , tl)~e[...], No, sir] except iii special cuses "•l,i.ere I a1n so'e1nployed. 1'he purpose of ,t)ie.,l?~'"er[...]· Mr. SANOS.. ~21 sir; there bave bee1, a very few s1nnll refnn~ls re- turned to o[...] |
| [...]NDIANS IN UNITED STATES Senator ,VHEEL1rn!>.:A.ccording to this statement it says you hold |
| [...]~86,5 Mr. SANDS. 'f!1at is ·inco1:qict a,s to the ainount. , 'l'IJe amount of the mortgag[...]; Senator' \V1n:t:1xn..A.ccording to this state1nent it says that Red Corn was $20,000 a year in annuities which he ,turns over to[...] |
| [...]cutor of the•,vill, you 7 took a power of attorney·fro1n Red Corn ~[...]·, ., :! .sands pu1·chasecl a car for $250, ·drove It two and il hair ve'a rs, 'hric1 sol<l it to his wnrcl, Uoy Maker, for[...]1 ,vhat about th'a t1[...]arges filed before the Depart1nent of Interior ll~a'in~t nie' because of it, and that has been fully ~one over !lnd threshec(oi1t an~ a sliow- ing made. I did not 1nake ,t ile sale o[...]s ,yhere I was gt'.1ardian of Roy Maker. Xt is a long record, having been ful'ly gone into the1=e,[...]can subn1it to this co1nn1itteii, if you desire., a' co1>y ' of tl1e , r ecor d becnuso in the charg![...]ore the, Ilitei·io2 De- pa1,tn1ent I prepared a full statement of that and can sub1nit a cppy to this conunittee if you wish it.[...]ator ,vnEELER. '\Vhen ,vas the last t11ue,you got a power.of at- torney or had a .,power ?f attorney approved by tbe ..a~p,artm~ntJ ,l\fr. SANDS. 'lhe Susie Pol}1na[...]rown 01,e ,vas later al)d only opera~_d , ~liout, a ye~r. Senator ,VHEELER. , '\Vhat year ~vas[...]. Senn.tor ,,rR~l:LER. You,say you fiiecl -a bond in .all these cases? 1\:h·. SANDS. '[...]apli'er· powers of attorney 1nay not have had.a bond. , , Senato[...]ort to the Govern1nent, you had not ft1rnished a bond. ii)_t he .Charl~s ,l3r9wn case. Do you kn[...]ber 31, 1928, , l\fr. SANDS. There-is such a bond-and there was such a bond back of that power of attorney. 'fh[...] |
| [...]. ·S,1..:zilos. No, ··sir. I presume there are a few of the attorneys that have. 'fhQse that prac[...]orneys ,vere-_ given. Then afterwards there were a ,nurnber of po,vers of attorney- granted to thos[...]heir debts and settle their accounts. 1'hose are a'.hvays submitted ·to the department and a.p - proved by thern. Senator ,vuEELER.' How[...]tency 'Ind ians ,ve do not require the1n to rnake a.n accounting to us beciiuse he has not hing to do[...]Senatox, I doubt if there are 200 Indians out of a thousand that have got cer:tificates of cornpeten[...]po,ver of attorney to' pay their debts and 1nake a. settlernent. You understand, "'e do |
| [...]is an r,1dian' ,vhb comes to me, w,ho Has· got. a .certificate Qf co111- petenc7.; he has son1e property. H e says, " What a,n I going to do r I say, ' I do not know. I can[...]reaso1} tlu.1.t the disbursing agent can not pay a· chec)!:, to a11y <>ne else than the Indian unless he has a .. power .of attorney attached to his account to[...],euator PINE. Did your stenographer or clerk sell a! car to Roy Maker?[...]wns that I did. 'Fhe fact.~ are I sold the car to a Mrs. Shi1nonek. •[...]had possession of the car, had ctriven it to, the a.gency, had had it inspected by Mr. Ilo,va so1neti[...]for the car when you sold it? ~{r. S.i.Nos. A.bout $850' or $900. There was so,ne fee account i[...]ou bought the ca1· that it "·as bought by Roy ~{a ker ? •[...]se dates. I could not give you the date. Possibly a year, or possibly t,vo years tli?,t ,I had[...] |
| [...]• , . M,Q. ~ ANDS . .N,o; I ,\'.nS gua.r<lian a.fterwards, but had nothing to do ~v~th ,lu1n at t[...]ng ~ppointed. The rnothe,r and, father. of ;Roy M.a ker w_ere I ndian full bloods ,vho1n I knew well[...]sir; I did not. Senator THOMAS. vVhat kind of a car was it 1 , , Mr.[...]can recall th!) nan1.e of it. Senato1· PINE. A Velie? , l\{r. SANDS.. No: it " 'as a car that at that ti,ne- at the tin1e it ,vas sold[...]e it before I operated it. I bought the c111· as a wreck. It had been turned over and the top and bo[...]d front-aJJd " 'recked. Senator }>INE. vVas it a new car? l\{r. S,\NDS. ·Yes,. sir; it was a ·car that hnd not been operated at nil. It had v[...]ught t,he car1 l\fr. SANDS. '! 'here was quite a crowd. It was in a garage, but there were 'few bidders. I was about[...]l\ir. SANOS. Possibly 25 or 30. The car was not a cnr that looked pllrticularly well. I was interested in a. garage at the ti1ne and had it repaired and put[...]expenditure, was the car pract,ically as good as a new car ¥ Mr. SANDS. Yes, sir; in the hearing in the county cou rt clown here I produced so,ne four a11to1nobile 1nen, 1nechanics, ,vho had repa[...] |
| [...]ess ancl·11 do noti buy'an'd sell property· at a.IL of <that 1s'ort. I I ' .,,,. Senator PINE. You have been in this section for aa car, which is'. rcally ,iri sound condition and[...]' value, after it has be~n ·slightly' worn· or a 'little out of date, on a ne,v car or a higher-priced or a 111ore up- t-0-date 1n'odel_, is a. custom· ~hat they follow. '£hose ··e~c~~n~~[...]tor PINE. white 1>eople get cars and run them for a'while and then trnde them in.[...]HENl<Y '!'Ar,LCHlEF ,va.s thereupon called as a.' ,viti:iess and, after being first: duly sworn t[...], ·., Sonat.or FRAZIER. Are you a me1nbei;,of t)1e busipess C0'1ncil l\ere? l\f[...], .,., , , · . Senn~or FnAZlEII. 1-1:a.ve y;ou ever been a Jl\emberl<'o f t.h e ,b'usiness council~[...]hink thei\' prop,erty has . been very well looked a.fter by the agentJ and the rest o.f the em[...] |
| [...]t say that ~t was done intentionally. ~'hey need a 1n1\ll' ,vl1ere an Indian could ~o in and confid[...]g ,vhat they ,vant . . An Indian wou ld not face a man who is do1nineerrng; consequently,.the I ndia[...]nderstood. I ,vant th& co1nmittee to· know tliat a man ,vho ,vill be a 1nan and treat .the1n as if. they are children an[...]. . Senatqr FRAZIER. Do y_ou 1ne.an a 1superinfte~de~t? . l{r. TALLCHIEF.[...]stand all the Indians. 'fhnt is the state1nent I a'in trying to make, ,vhere' they antagonize each s[...]· l{r. TALLC1-111;F. I can not state a~ to that. I t r~presents us, so far as it had po[...]ought to }?e taken· up that are not taken up. I a1n not $})Caking for 1ny OWJl point. .[...] |
| [...]excused.) ; JOHN Pal.MER was thereupon called as a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testi[...]PALMF.R. Yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. You " •a.ut to make a state1nent for the con1- mittee1 Mi·. PALME[...]n Osage yourself1 Mr. P ALMER. · Yes, sir; I a1n a 1ne1nber of the tribe. I a1n not an Osage by blood 01· birth, but I have been a 1nember of the tribe for over 50 years. Sena[...]ivili- zation fnnd 1nentioned by the youn~ 1nan. a few mon_1ents ~go--th!lt fund arose fro,n the sale of Osage lands 1n l(ansas 111 186t>, a stnp of land 30 by 50 1niles. 'l'he Osages we1·e handed a treaty already prepared. I t was a long treaty, several typewritten pages. I[...] |
| [...]at tract of land, bad $776,931 net. The $300,000, a part o-f it, was paid to the Osages. Interest rwa[...]e of it and that was the money that the treaty st,a ted ,v.e ,vanted, because we were poor and in nee[...]t to the com1nittee is this: vV ns it fair to get a people that were poor nnd needy and hold out to t[...]a: believed then as "'e believe no,v, that there is[...]se, have access to. Its finding of · facts gives a history of this case better than I could possibly[...]on. After waiting for 50 years and longer it ,vas a shock to me to have the Court of Clailns, or any[...]s. The court said one other thin~, that to modify a treaty or to alter it after such and such a thing nas been done, is a political power and not a remedy that the court can give. Now, we have r[...]terest than I did, and I believe now, as I stated a 1no1nent ago, that a.fter 50 years the Court of Clni1ns had pointed ou[...]ve it to yon if unwittingly the Indians asked for a loan of $300,000, paid it back, and had taken fro1n · the,n considerably over t hree-quarters of a 1nillion dolhu's-was that a squa re deal? I have no doubt but what eve[...] |
| [...]al council, ·by the Intenor Department, and the a.genc1es under 1t, thtit ,,ve ·e1nploy counseJ,[...]to· get that oil under the land -without..paying a si ngle dime for it, can get it. I do not belie[...]to apply on the road funds. The proposition 0£ a n1j\n' paying 1 per cent of his n1oney is not so[...]in t hese hard tin1es, and iinoth:er man ownina a thousand or more-acres that can be benefitea by t[...]t of his nnnuity fund to maintain tlie road· as a n1an ,vith ii thousand 01' 1nore acres. 'l'hat, o[...]e so1ne other witnesses to hear and ,ve only have a, litt.le time left. i\fr. PAL~!ER. One thi[...]of attorneys for guardians, you have touched upon a ".ital point, but ,vith the short stay th[...] |
| su.a~EY OF CONDIU'IONS 0}' INDlANS IN ,UN,I T,ED STATE[...]urnber-of the sup~rintendents , of nn cx-tribi.il a~tor- ney, 0£ nn attorney and those po,ver of att[...]looks to rne ought to be handed over to you. You_'a~·e pressed for tirne. I do not kJtow ~hat I cnre[...]y it now. I have in mind an old man, older than I a1n, up in the State of vVasl)ington. He ,vent into an office up there in the State of :\V'ashington to see a f>arty about sornething and he could -not see the[...]there and know much nliout it are gone and ,vhen a 1nan has ,vaited 50 years to see the Government- do s01nething I feel like that old 1nan. I a1n not 95 }'.ears old, ·b11t I _have l)Ot ~ot an[...]f Congress in \Vasl,1in;;to11. D. C., very seldom a Iudiuu have anything , to $ay to such distinguish[...]ooe you have in <ime11;cncy. Xou hil\•e to haYc a valet to hel1> you to put it 011, by the time you[...]ns wlio are wearing lhe bhHJket. Mr. Cbairn10n a,ul gentlemen of the ,congressional committee, our[...]be great, but they will see justice." So here we a re to-day. Some 24 years ago we allotted :our[...]Oil and (;O:s alone hn$ n1ndc us Osi1ge ·Indians a Jar~c income-. 'l'o my way of thinking t·[...] |
| [...]will soon Jenve the agency. We Osage people as a tribe owe Mr. \Vright a great credit which we will ne\'er forget him ns long a,s he 11\'eS. Milllo11s and millions of dolln1-s[...]have been told, the children must be educated to a C()rtaln extent so they cnn comply with civillzn[...]ttention. If it can be done, they ought to h,1ve aa tribal attorney for tlie Osage Indians o.f Oklahoma, there Is some talk aucl a petition signed by 40 or 50 full-blood Indians that Is a matter out of questlon. If we ever needed a national attorney In our history, we need one now. So many or our younger boys a re getting into trouble every day, as well ns th[...]ent was passed by Congress that an Osage can make a will, I h11ve witnessed a good many wills. 'l' here was one will mnde in Fnirfax, Okla., by Osage allottee He-ah-to-me, a· renl old Indy, who has seven headrigbts noel wh[...]nr wit.It most of the full-blood Indians. She was a real old Indy and a great drunkard in her litellme and was ve1-y ·incompetent. The only "·ny she could make a will, I 1hink, would be just to hil\'C lef[...] |
| [...]p and maintain the home-other• wise It would be a great expense to keep up the taxes, lights, and g[...]'l'he younger Osage Indinns nre beginning, after a Jon;:! sttugglc, to settle down on their homestea[...]J oe Bird, of Hominy; James Blghenrt, o! Fairfax; a nd F ,·eddle Lookout and ,valter Matin, of Homin[...]AUOOTT, JOHN Anuorrs was thereupon called as a witness and, after being |
| [...]of ,them, 11re great ath~ete~ in high schools. I a1n proud of then1. I hope they wil[l_stay ,v1th 1t and speak befter Eng- lish than I a1n able to··and hnve 1nore knowled"e than I have[...]ome 17•years ago befo1-e the OsagJ bill, became a la,v in 1912. That law was made and passed by bo[...]ave alwitys thought, to my wa.y of thinking, ,vas a cri,ne. The ,noney is gone. It was given to diffel'ent persons. I a,n telling you this by esperience. I have been dealing with the,n, I a,n not con- de,nning the courts or lawyers 01· a[...]the senatorial congres.<;ional co1n- n1ittee, I a.h,•ays heara' Congress has always given charity[...]ions. I nlwiiys. ,vondered why did tney not gi-ve a few ,nillions .to the red 1nen of the United Stat[...]s,tarving to death. "\Vhy do they not give the,n. a fe,v-,n1illion <lollarsi I ,have always said that[...], 1 , Mr. Chair1nan a,id gentle,nen of the senatoi-ial ci:,ngressional· co,n- mittee, I a~ sorry to tell y<_>u that so,ne of o_u~· y<_>nng[...]illing their ti,ne out in, State prison. There is a g~eat l?rohibition. .It reminds ·1ne when an In- dian was called upon to make a· big speech in California, He got Ul) on the pl[...]. and sa.id "Ladies. and-gentlc- 1nen," an'd gave a b1g-,vnr ,whoop. Some one in audience s(l.y, "In- dian, ,vhat did you say i " ':,Prohibition is a joke; white 1nan talk long t.ime and don't say no[...].) EDGAR MoC.\IITHY " 'as thereupon called as a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testif[...]c0ARTHY. Yes, sir. Senator Fl!Az.mn. You have a petition you ,vant to present to the con1m[...] |
| [...]NITED STATES 6879 l\{r. MbCAuTHY.' Just a few words. I ,vant to have the intcrprcte1' inter[...]glad to see Y.OU here to-day. }le says there are a i;ood 1nany things I would like to bring up, but;[...]want- to' go somewhere else. He says_I ,vill say a 'few ,vords. ' He says the id[...]llot1nent act, as we call it, before that bec,1me a law, we understand there w11s 1n9ney set aside, $[...]ere by-the na1ne of Harry Coop, he says, give inc a record of that, and he said ~ had that with 1ne i[...]tiine ,vc took ·01ir allotrnents that there was a l!OOd deal they want, b\1t it seerns as though ,t[...]e these provisions are rnade ·they want to have a clause in tliere that would test the entire trib[...]ys under that act it seerns as though there ,vas a trade rnade concerning this rnineral ,natter, whe[...]' He says in this petition we have a clause in there that n1eans every- thing[...] |
| [...]u might say. He says t~at son1e tiine ago t.hat a com1nittee of tins kind v;•as l1ere in thjs pla[...]ur superjnte)).dent went and nsked for such legis)a- tion that ,vould given our affairs so that eve[...]is agency; so in that way ,vhe.1:1 that beca1ne a law that is the way our l_\ffa.ii·s is bandied[...]. It seen1s as though we are handled like a bunch of stock 01· ani- mals. You kno,v ,vhen[...]ade in the handling of our affairs through just a fe,v persons, ,vhether it is tribal affairs or no[...]ike that. He says tha.t is in the way of erecting a Jnonu.ment, and so forth. He says t hat came up[...],vay through, to 1ny kno,vledge, he says, and I a1n bringing this up to you, tile comm,ittee, to J?[...]sa.ys that there has been tiines that. such chief a.nd council has appeared before Congress, puttin[...]e Tribe of Indians and he says he figured one n1a.n in the tribe is just as rnuch inter~ted in ou[...]!'.hat is all I ,vant to ~ay. ·1·here are a lot · of tl11ngs I ,vant to bring out, but I am[...]dult members of ~c Osage Tribe of Jncllnui;, at a mass meeting of the tull•bloo<l members.[...] |
| [...]ED STATES 6881 resolutions by a petition embodying the desire, sentiments, nnd vi[...]eorge ,vright, superin- tendent, wants to be like a king; if tho money belonged to him we would not make a complaint. '!'his agency cooperated with Osage County in the employ- ment of a (arm agent and a. home-demonstration agent, and under contract $1,[...]and $f,OSO for the home-dem- onstration agent. A force of 20 ls maintained, most of whom nre engag[...]huskn. Further complaint ls mnde that the Osage Aa sum equal to 3 per cent for the passage of this act at the time snid net was passed. A few months Inter Con- gressm.n Hastings introd11cecl a bill In Congress asking an ndditionnl sum[...] |
| [...]1>0slng the cou,ncil at 1he home of Fred Lookonl. a bout 4 miles from Pawhuska. four or five days bef[...]e one p,;ncfpnl cliief, one ns.~l~tant chief, und a t-ouncll cousistlng of four half-blood lndlan$ nn[...]S un nblc-bodied man, has n good education and is a resJ)Cctable mnn, but Mr. Kohpay did something wr[...]ALLISON WEUB. ,JOHN A. LOOAN. GEORGE PlTI'S.[...]EJt'l' BuNo was thereupon called as a witnes.5 and, after being first duly sworn, tes[...]BLAND. Pratt. l(nns. Senator FnAZI.En. You had a stnte,nent you wnnted to 1nake to the COnllnittee[...]and he got separated from his brother. H e ho.cl a f>~·otf1er-, |
| [...]n;1eho,v or -0ther. My father 1narried and raised a fa1nily. Senator FRAZIER. In ,vhat county¥[...]r boys ,an·d three gii·ls li:ving. We never had a chance after we grew up to httve a hearing or to get rights or get anything. S[...]. Senator FRA·ZIER. There are a. number of these applications for -enrolhnent. Ca[...]. Yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. You will wtite a staten1ent and send it to the -comrnittee at ,,1[...]to you, an- .s,vering your questions. We are ·in a hurry. ,,ve have to quit. Mr. B~No. Can Mr. Kirk testify¥ Sei:iator -FRAZIER. '\-Ve hettrd hi,n a few days ago. You and l\1r. "Ki'rk ,vrite in and[...]ve nnothe1· state1nent? a Mr. All1101T. Here is will that"belongs in ![...]'VBJ1u..,v1ND SOLDIER ,vas the1·eupon called as a ,vitness and, after being first duly sworn, tes[...]Rosebud, S. Dak. Senator Fn.1z1E11. You have a stateinent to ,nnke concerning the ,situatio)1 do[...]out there one 1norni11g and found this J ohn in a bad condition. He ,vas living' in n. tent[...] |
| [...]near his pince he ciune out to 1noot 11s. He had a blanket over hin1. His hand was like this. So I w[...]d I built ,1 fire and got so1ne dry limbs, built a fire for hiln. i\'[y "'ife talks ·.Osnge; I understa nd a little Osage 1nyself. So she asked hi111 if he ha[...]He says no. My wife went into the tent and found a little coffee pot and we looked in it. It wns al[...]d fol' hin1 and gnthered wood for hi1n. And I put a canvns around the place where he was staying. A.fterwards he got warmed up, he ,vas shaking, and he fomned at the 1nouth. So I got some snow in a bucket and give it to hi1n and he drink it. He h[...]e. l did not k'llow if they had any gua.rclian or a.nythmg. I thought to 1ny- self if they had a superintendent here they ought to do so1nething f[...]ur son's place, the fifth c1ay. On the fifth clay a white fellow brought up son1ething to eat for hi1n. He brought a can of to1natoes, corn, and peas, and a half loaf of bread. He opened those cnns and slopped it into the do; p/ln and t ook a rusty tablespoon and stirred it up and give it to[...]e of. The superintendent went to work nncl bought a tent, a Sioux tent, and he asked 1ny wi fe to put it up. Se we ,vent up there and put it up. vVe built. a lire inside, put a lot of hay in it and canvass around it and the su[...]th this old n1an; he clon·t know how to li ve 1n a Sioux tent." I know these are |
| [...]else the county, to look after hin1. There ,vere a lot of suggestions made at that ti1ne. I do not k[...]old 1nnn 1nade the statc- 1nent he gets one meal a day son1eti1nes, son1eti1nes two. 'fhere is one O[...]-d1iy, if you go up there to see hi1n, he ents in a tent. 1'he superintendent ordered a house to be built, so they built it, and he cats on a table, linen cloth, and uses napkins, and he takes a bath twice a day no"'· At first we could not get hirn to change his clothes a.t all. vVhen we change hint his underwear is dirty- black as 1ny cont. You could a hnost crack it. · Senator FRAZIEII. Did ,YOU say this 1nan had a guardian ,vho was supposed to look after hnn 1[...]used.) F. ,v. FAnU,\11 was thereupon called as a witness, and, after being first duly sworn, testi[...]his ,nan nre absolutely untrue. 'l'here is hardly a true staternent 1nade by hi,n·, not a single one. He was living in ii tent with a floor in it. H e had a good Govcrnn1ent tent, Govern,nent inspected, and[...]he ti1ne they say they ca1ne up there, there ,vas a big snow stonn, 8 or 10 inches of snow, and he di[...]ver 1nissed over one 1neal. 'fhere never hns been a day he has not had food. Every day " 'e ha d peop[...]wns never heard 1noanin~ or crying or anything at a.II. 1' 1cre is nothi1lg to it. I ernploy these pe[...]years ago. I-le lives out here on the hill about a ,nile and does not[...] |
| [...]r nnyb'pdy 01· anything. H e J1as all •he w,a1~ts to eat, drink, and wear, but be l111s no in[...]he being ta~en care of now? i\'Ir. FARRAR. A.t his ho1ne; s01ne buildings. I builti so1ne build- in!!S. H e bas a house. 'senator l<'nAzn;R. , vhen did you d[...]o have tlus mal) look 1nto the case ·1f he got a good house for lnn1. hfr. l<'AHRAn. He did[...]to the agency several t-i n1es. He did not want a. house. .Senator l?RAZlER. I s he not livin~ in a house now? h:lr., FARRAR. No, sir ; he is s[...]low often do you see hnn 1 hfr. F AllllAll. A.bout once a week, about t he way 1 intend to sec l1i1n.[...]1nuch i hfr. FARRAn. I 11111 «ett.ing $900 a year. ' Senator FRAZIER. To act ns his guardian[...]s excused.) . T. J. LEAHY was thereupon cnlled ns a witness and, after being first duly sworn, test[...]ross -here to-night to the next place. T here, is a list of state1nenf-5 here tha t you want to answ[...]IER. '\<Vould it be snt.isfact~ry to you to 1nake a writ- ten statcnient ,vhich you can niak[...] |
| [...]tly. It was the understanding tlu,t I should make a ·written reply to tbP.' charges that had been ma[...]LYNN J. FR-AZIER, Chairman India•• A.ffair8 Ooma,,ittec, Uni/ea States Senate,[...]he following wlls filed with your committee by J. A. • Tntro, S!X.'Cial investignto.-, representing[...]0SA0£ AGENCY, Okl(tl>.0>11a. '.l' . J . LEAHY, Esq., Pa1oh1t8ka, Okla-.:[...]he hns been accorded by the agency bas mncle l1im a mlllionnire. 3. That he bas written nil of th[...]the Osage Tribal Council through his son. who is a member and through George Alberty, a ~ousln, who is another membe1· ot said council.[...]eprimanded by the Americnn Bnr Association tor hi.a mar.mer of soliciting the Income-fax business of[...]in 1925, and that he Is the one to have drnfte<l a bill that was 1>resented to Congress, tbnt[...] |
| [...]'lces• his firm rehtlered that wnr~ante<I such a big tee. :At tlie snme time It sho11ld be useerta[...]J. A. 'l'ATRO.[...]tbllt I wus privileged to answer It In writing a11d make s uch recommendarlons an!! suggestions[...]tary of the Interior and Com'mlssloner of Xl\dlan A.ffn!rs. · Mr. '\Vright bas1 alwnys carried out[...]absolutely without foundntion. That I 'do fake a' great interest in the affitirs of the Osage Tr[...]d children are members of the tribe, and I have a number ot other relath·es, who' are a loo members of tbc • tribe:[...]been nccorde<l 1ne. by the agency bas made me a milllonnire. I have been accorde<l no patronage by the agency, an<l un!<>l'lunntcly I am not a millionnire and am relali\'ely a 1>oor man. The Osage Indian Al,-ency does not ac[...]hor- ity l did assist In said prosecution and as a result the two parties charged with snid murders nre ser,•lng a lite sentence in the Federal PenUent.lary nt Leav[...]ns over which u,e State had juris,lictlon, and as a result two of said persons are now sen •ing li[...]prosecution. Had I not felt that l owed the tribe a duty I would not. hn,·e u,-ce1>ted the employme[...]1111 extremely low tee. This fee, of course. 1is a.11 other f001; was sha red In by my partners. |
| [...]urred In the fall of• 1026. I was representh1g a large .11umber of the members of the tribe, who[...]s clalmed. lJy him for the .y ears 1018 to 1028. A large number, of these notJces against members of[...]s of members·o&.tbe- tribe \\<ho d.icl not, bave a certificate -of competency. Mr. ,vrlght , s uperi[...]was fnmlllar wltb these matters and was bancllb1g a great -deal of work of tbnt kind for members of t[...]d States declined to, nsk the Sup reme Court for a writ of ccrt lorari and so far as the case with.[...]s, nor did they pay m1y pa rt of my expenses. On a couple of occasions they offered to <lo so, but I[...]these parties, I incun·ed their ill will and 11s a resµlt many of t11em have .s ought to do me Inj[...]before, tbP. community and the •Indian office a nd the committee of Congress having c\1a rg~ of Indiau affnirs, nud wba.tever Tatro may h[...]lf of the tribe, ancl regret only that I was not a ble to keep out of legislation some matters thpt[...]ibal Council through my son, who ,i s n member, a nd through George Alberty, . .[...]. who is a cousin a ud |
| [...]'DITIONS OF' lNDL\NS 'IN 1U-NITED STATES- also a member of the council.' This charge Is false· and untrue, and •without |
| a1mear, In this· stntement, ,n large .number of[...]s uggested that I :$hould write th'e committee a letter. saying. It, would not OC'<:ur agnlg nnd n[...]d the InvesUgntlon to be made by the committee a,ui evidence taken; that I was not guilty of any m[...]presented· to ·Congres.~. and had It become ·a ,Jaw It would have made tbe pur• · <:hase-,man[...]eby restricted members of the tribe who .ha<l a large amount of funds on band ,could bUif the ran[...]er, sci as to satisfy' myself that It wouldJ>e •a good investment fe.r " the Indlans.and,ione that[...]ing.afterrthe nffairs ofrthe rnneh. I t had about a,500 ac,·e.~ in culti\'>1• tlon and a coinpl_ete system of .irrigation. There was also a fine dairy herclr on tbe rnuch with a com1)letc dairy bnrn and many other small houses[...]lqg -cnre of at one time nt leas't>lOO people aa place of recreation and sport where th[...] |
| [...]s innd farming; and, I.bird, because lt·would,bc a good safe itwestment tor their momw, I was instructed to submit ·a proposition covering the ranch and all •the[...]anch •to tl1e Osages at $8,000,000. In case a sale was made, I and my ass<><:lates were to rece[...]t that nt tbat time there was pending in Congress a bill, which had been offered at the request o[...]g- ment it would be almost impossible to pass a s1><.-cinl h1w providing for the sale· of tl[...]ut not with me, had conceiYed the Idea of getting a special bill through Congress for that purpos[...]d of it that It would be useless to try to do a nyU1ing, and, ns fnr as 1 was concerned, 1 wo[...]ference to taking the matter up with the Indioos 1a1t(l with reference to ha,·lng anything prese[...]able to present them at all to that Secretary. As a consequence, the entire deal, so tar as.I was[...]rned In the sale that was made. I think it a matter of regret, however, that the Osages who wa[...]have since le.inied It was sold tor. It was such a price that was absolutely a safe investment. At. such a price it would have netted them a very Jorge profit. I know of no reason why t11e full-blood mem• be1-s of the tribe, who have a lrage amount or· funds on band. should not be permitted to buy it it Is a safe Investment, n large ranch where they could s[...]uska as bis agent upon whom notice may be served. A number of tlte oil' companies hnve designated me as such agent. A number of the· oil compantes- ha"e de[...] |
| [...]6893 9. Tntro says lb Is charged that I nm a ccorded the ·cream, oi 'Osage litigation. I <l[...]p with men of high standl'ng and legal ability, ·a nd matters turned ovet· to my firm l o take ca[...]this depletion 'should !Jo arrived at, we were a dvised It would be uecessary for n geological survey to be made and a depletion determined, nnd that t his would cost[...]' receive for ·t ile services I •was rendering a nd none was contemplated.[...]rilntter, t he same· was explalnecl to the chief a\id a council of the tribe, and they requested me to[...]roposition on the same and let the council awnrcl a contract to whoever was tbe lowest blclder. I t[...]ar as I was concernecl I was willing to submit a proposition to the council, ns he felt s ure othe[...]competeut and capable geologiCal engineers nnd a v1irnlsers, and after consulting with them on the[...]they would ehm·ge to make the ge-,1ogicnl survey a nd appral.se s,mJe, nnd ns.~ist In the making of the returns, I decided to submit a proposition to the council on a basis of $35 per bendright.. Tbe &lme not to appl[...]hey considered mine the lowest bid. as It was for a strnlght $35 per shnre. They understood a nd knew just what the nmount they would |
| [...]t)tey aw111·de<l me the contract. I prepared a contract and bad it exeutcd In, th,e fol'm ns rc<[...]of March 8, 1921, it. wn,; not su.cb 11, cootr.a ct that required his approval, but he ..further S[...]lous to such mcml),e rs of the tribe mnki,ug such a contract with me as desired to ()o so. The con[...]work they 1did. My other expenses were of ~ucb a nature that my firm received onl:,: nbput $10 1>e[...]that I should. also nscei;tain ~vbat, sh.ould be a: prope,r, depletion figure, and Ille 11 clain\[...]t.he amount · ,~overed tor U1e years 1917. i91S, a1ul 1919, mJd t!•e amount, s11ve<I f~r the ye[...]t,Exhl,bit 111 s hows thi~t Leahy & Macdonald got a fee of $11,000, frol;ll Mary µ,,gn\hllJl\, a11d II/at I should be ,asked ,w)lnt services my firm rendered to get such a fee, and that. It shoul<l be,,ascert.ained why Co[...]Since Mary lngrahnw Is n white 1ierson and not•a m~mber o( the tribe, ,I do not see why tlle,,c[...]lowever. the facts are that Mary Jngrahnm took a full-blood Osnge lndi_a n girl , nt. the . tiwe of lier birth llP,d reare[...]: for the bene)lt pf, Airs. Jngrat1am, ,she .made a wiU, by the tern1s o~. ,yhi~ .she le(t her entire ,estate to •Mrs, Ingrahqm. , Tttis was a Yery large estate ,1,nd ,v(llued at some.where fr[...]o1;e the Com1.1,1lssloner or , Indian Allairs and a representative of the Secretary or Intertoi:, and[...]incd in u,e .clepurt,nent for consideration for a long time. It was (ully briefed by my lirm[...] |
| [...]6895 Under the law of Oklahoma a minor may not make a will. The law of Okla• homa provides that a female of the age of 18 years shall nttaln her majority and may make a will. The act of Cong,·ess of June 28, 1906, kno[...]y, under the net of Congress Mary ,voodmaosee was a minor. until 21, but under the laws of Oklahoma, she was not a minor after reaching the age of 18. She made the will when she was 19. This raised a serious ques• lion of lnw as to whether the wil[...]t her by ~1nry Woodmansee while she was alive .As a consquenee, she was very anxious to get the mutte[...]sufficient to her heirs at law to place them upon a good, sound financial ba'sls. Consequently a compromfse was made wherel!y she received or was to receive $75,000 in cash, $4,000 In Liberty bonds, and a resi- dence In Pawhuska that hqd belonged to Mary[...]thing of thnt. \Ve do know that Bird ~!cGuire was a prominent attorney nt that time and formerly a Dele- gate to Congress from Oklahoma Territory and after statehood a Member of Congress, and wns a very Close personal friend of Mary Ingraham and h[...]was doubtless consulted by her, and we think .it a fair · presump- tion that for bfs advise and con[...]bmitted by Mr. Tatro, be submitted what Is styled a supplementary statement of J. M. Humphreys. Mr. H[...]e tribal attorney for the Osage Tribe of Indians. A copy of this supplementary statement I received t[...]That It is made to appear thnt T. J . Leahy bas a contract with the Govern- ment to make the income[...]ored nil around by J. George Wright; tlint he has a large probate practice, and Is ,given tlie cream[...]Wright pulled him off the ~Inker cnse to protect A. S. Snnds. That Mark Revard file.d nu application for a certificate of competency. Under the law he said this automatically closed the guardianship of Mrs. Do1·a Givens, a stool pigeon of Sands, was •guardian. Sa[...] |
| [...]e agency. Thar under the 1925 bill Leahy . and a few othfrS stood to clean up a couple ot million dollars If be, Hu1111>brey. bad[...]had blm substitute tbe word "may" for "sba)I" in a certain l_laragra)lb or Sllld bill.[...], Tbat the C-Omptroller Gene1·a1 rendered a very bad decision on No"emoer 2, 1926, namely, th[...]yees or bis. Knowing that such statements were a gross misrepresentation of facts, and believing .[...]s did not make It, 1 handed to Judge J::lumpbreys a copy of th!$ supplementary statement. He very kin[...]: D>:AR Stn: i\ ly attention bas bcei1 called to a rer,ort by J. A. Tatro, special lny~st.lgator for the Un ited. St[...]this statement. The stntemeut I mnde in answer to a question was that J. Gf1!)rge " ' right frcquentl[...]"That it Is made to appear thnt T. ,l. Leahy bas aa contract but u,at I bad called for the contract n[...]vored all around by J. George Wright, tbat be bas a large probate practice nnd ls given the cr[...] |
| [...]ency. 7. "That under the 1925 bill Lea by ond a few others stoOd to clean u11 a ('()uple of million dollars If he (Bum11hreys) ha[...]ad him substitute the word 'may• tor 'shall' In a toertaln paragraph of said bill." I positivel[...]submlttc<I with bis report what pur))Orted to be a statement by \V. E . McGuire. This &tatement was[...]the kindness of Senator Thomas. Mr. McGuire in a statement made by him before the Chief and counci[...]e ever sahl anything to Mr. Tatro against. me and A. T . \Voodw11rd, the then Osage tribal nttorney,[...]d Osage council. Ii 1$ untrue that Mr. \\' right, A. T. \Voodwnrd, and T. J. Leahy tmd three or four[...]e passage of an act that would permit the sale of a piece of New Mexico land to the Os;1ge Jndhms on[...]g and protecting hand over them. Wbat they are Is a result of probably mo1·e than a million Years of living In wblch certain cbnracte[...]onditions have been developing. In many ways Ibey a1'e real m~n nud women in other ways, lf· vlewe'd from the · standpoint or a white man, they are merely children. Education can not wipe this out In a few generations, not any more than It can[...] |
| [...]tlie proteetlon of that Government, and conceded a vast domain for the promise of that care nnd pr[...]h was recognized by the United States, covering a greater part of Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, and A[...]5 miles above Fire Prairie, anrl running thence a <lue south course to the Mississippi." Thls bound[...]ted States for llttle or no consideration, except a promise of pro- tection. (Kappler's Laws and Tre[...],; , ' So It will be seen that a |
| [...]as to fully lnfrom t11emseh·es as to the nature a nd Character of an Indh10 and the fact that a white man cnn not be ma<le out of bim, either by education oi: otherwise, In a few generations. If they will do tbis, much of tb[...]not do It, It may be reasonably expected that in a short: time Jlenrly all of the Indians lo the Uni[...]arge and )'Cached into tl1e t11ousands of dollars a nnua lly, in place of It being helpful and enabling them to become clear of debt, t11ey became indebted to a n1uch larger degree. An Indian and bis wife with an incomt:1 of $8000 a year each would not only spend the $8,000 each bu[...]pro· vided that eacb member of the tribe without a certificate of competency, wllo was an adult, s h[...]os en- couraged in his opposition to tl1is act by a large majority of those white people wbo were dea[...]ply engaged in Ii ving. The act of 1921 proved a great blessing to tl1e Osages as r,1 r as the restricted members were concerned. Under it a vast amount of money accumulated for them. So muc[...]deemed It advisable In order to test him to have a mo1·e liberal provision with reference to tbe mo[...]er, ancl in addition to tbls bis l.nterest on his a ccumulated funds and bis rents from lands and suc[...]paid to him, regardless of whether bis income as a incmber of th e tribe was sufficient to pay it 01[...]iated to less t11an $1,000 per <1narter. ,ve have a condition confronting the rest.-lcted membe1'S of tbe tribe nt th is t ime whereby their a ccumulated funds in place of remaining wbat they[...]ying their obligntions, lheir accumulated funds b a,•e all been used up, or nearly so. nod ln time[...]ed fund will be absorbed. 'l'his is proving to be a grave danr:er, and it woulcl seem that some provi[...]nd rents f rom his land. If something is not done a long this line, the day will come when |
| [...]e and to the Nation. Aside from nil this, It Is a matter of good business on the part of ,the Gover[...]retlon of the Secretary Of' tl1e Interlo1·, with a limit placed upon the same ..[...]ssage of the act of March 3, 1921, there were not a great many guardianships. I t was practically lim[...]was belle,·ed that by the act of Moreb 3, 1921, a gua1·dlan could receive •nll of the Indlan·s[...]er words It was believed that nn Indian ,tltllont a gnnrdian could only receive $1,000 per quar.ter, while au Indian with a guardian could receive the full amouut of his qua[...]ynn, the United• States Supreme Court held that a gunrdlan could only be lawfully paid of the India[...]. '.l'he net of February 27, 1925, provided Cor a method of compelling the guard• lans to return[...]The reason these Indians had for wanting to have a guurdiau was tbat after they had a i:nardlan they would get more money than they wou[...]und tho$e only in c•lS-eS wbere there should be a guard.ion. ..:\t tbis time, where the ,restricted[...]tlflt-ntes of competeucy are concerued, there are a numbe·r· of those. now under guarcllnnshit>, fo[...]iaus hlp, and there was none at the time of their a1ipointment in most cases. '.l'he guardians in som[...]s tor what the Indian owes them, nud consequently a.re resisting their removal. I n one case the[...]Is true whether the Indhin does or docs not have a certificate of competency. All pl'occedlug[...] |
| [...]Tribe of I1idla11s conveyed to the United States a tract of land In Kansas 50 miles one way by 30 mi[...]l the same nnd reimburse Itself for the $300,000, a nd the amount the lnnd brought over and above the[...]It, it conltl uot reform the treaty, but that was a matter for Congress atone. By reason o~ this lute[...]ther·I ndian or anybody else, who \Yants to make a statement to the·committee, you ma.y have the st[...]ttee, and ,ve will be glad 'to haYe it printed as a part of the record. T hat staten1ent applies to e[...]e. If there are any ,vhites here who want to make a statement they are at libertv to write out such a statement; send it to the committee at Washington[...]06, prQvldl/>g that Osnge Tribe of Indians :iiave a ,principal cbief,•n,;slstant pr incipa l chief,[...]Osage 'l'rlbe of Indian~, and who nre elected for a period of two years under Sllid act. During this period t he principal chief has privilege to give a notice ·to the Osage T,rlbe, and Osage matters comes up, ·so as· to get a ready, prepare some kind of, suitable reso[...] |
| [...]gton, D. 0. DUR Sta: I have the honor to write a letter to you this afternoon· nnd respectfully a[...]trust period until 1946, thinking that it became a law and could not be changed. According to the su[...]of tll<l Osage Tribe of Ind/4ans: ·Pursuant to a call made sometime ago by the Osage · Tribal Council, there was ou October 10 a meeting be!(! at t)le agency office of quite a large number of members of the tribe, together with soine Intermarried members a'nd some representatives of the oil lessees, at wh[...],eriod until 1946. At that time It was claimed by a. large number of people who bought riio<ls[...] |
| [...]ncil. The object of the tribal council In calling a meeting was to be sure that your attention was ca[...]u answer one of the two questions below by making a cross mark after •t he question and return the[...]on one Job for so many years is bound to get Into a rut, and Mr. Wright falls to sec the progress of[...]step with the general progress of tl1e times. For a great many, years t11e Indians were located in th[...]the United States Army. To-day we are located In a highly civilized and progressi,•o sectio[...] |
| [...]this law contem11tates. , In ·order to get even a small portion of. our money we have to make many,[...]though tbey were giving us somet11lng, malrhig us a gift, Instead of pny,ing us our own•money. '.l'[...]wn money nnd i;hould have the right, to SP<?nd It a,i; wo see fit. He bas taken practically all of our propert.y rights from us. We . can not spend a penny without Mr. ,vrlght's consent or approval.[...]held• up these payments for J)<?riods pt fro"! a few days to six w~ks, compelling us as imlivldual[...]are compelled ~o wait for hours before receiving a.ny. attention- wl1atcvcr, -and often have to retu[...]agency who will consider ou1· welfare, both as ·a tribe and us !11dlvldunls, who will give us due c[...]Eoo.a.a McC.a.a:rnY. ••[...] |
| [...]g n ticket for the election of June· 2 Rdo1ltecl a sei:iei, ,o.f resolutions Showing their .stnnd on[...]ge ~:rribe ot lndtnus, in convention nssem. blecl a't Pawhuska, Okin., on - - - 26, 1924, resolved tJ[...]intention of determining whether or not there Is a Just compc.nsatlon due to the Osage Tribe ot Ind[...],vhei-eas there are numerous damage suits filed a1,,;1inst members of tile Osage 'l'ribe of Indian[...]res of land, 160 acres ot which was designated as a homestead, the remainder being designated surplus land. All minerals were reserved to the Osar;e Tribe for a period of 25·ye11rs, "unless otherwise provided[...]ienation of the land, by means of the Issuance of a certificate of competency, upon application to th[...]. The surplus lands were to remain nontaxable for a J>erlod of 3 years and the homestenc\s for[...] |
| [...]s than half Indian blood have been emancipated to a very large extent; nnd they hnve fully demonstr[...]ter of banclllng business. There bas never been a time when there was any justUlca- Uon for handl[...]um of Indian blood; and there hns ne,•er been a time when Ille average Indian, regardless ol the[...]rstand that was the only way It could be used. If a gual'(tion, ap()Olnted •by a State court, bad done such a thing, the Indian OfJlce ·would have contested[...]from departmental supervision. It there ever wns a case where the principle of self-determlnaUon sho[...]ocl Osuge 1ieo11te. But tns1ead of being allowed a real voice in the management of either their trib[...]of thousands of dollnrs by the Indian Ofllce to a "trustee" name(! by ludl,·ldual Indians, withou[...]tru~1.ee '' as guardian, finding U1at he " is not a competent or proper person to manage the affairs[...]e part of the Indian Office would be uncovered by a thorough audit ot 118 accounts. Any business that[...]bankrupt nor have ·their .estates dissipated by a guardian in whose appointment they have no[...] |
| [...]NS IN UNITED STATES 6907 A: legal guardian, nppointcd by the State court, is[...]nod Is kept In tow by the Indian Office so that a real investigation Is Impossible. If yo11r operat[...]II bul'eau that has no resp0uslbllity. Give us a- little chnnce for g,·owth and self- determlnn[...]e Cherokee Nat.Ion of Indians, issued and slgnedl a letter of patent conveying 14,325,125½ acres of[...]the State of Knnsas, with the- view of purchasing a new nnd permanent home. All tbnt part or t[...] |
| [...]ot an net of Congress ap1,ro,·t>d June 5 '1872, a eertnln tract of said conntry In the Cherokee outlet wa·s set, ll()1irt and' confined ns a reservation for the Osage Tribe of Indians· boun[...]or Kansas Indians; and \Vhereas by virtue of a provision In the act of Congress on ?,larch 3, 18[...]and brought forth u()On this part of the country a new nation, nod that this nnUon under the Government which we l11•e sho~d have a new birth ot freedom; and[...]ame of the Cherokee Nation of Indians, to execute a deed to the United States, as trustee, for the be[...]sideration of the sum ot $1,090,137.71, paid a., tioned In the net of March 3, 1873, for said t[...]atives of the Government, the, Osage Tribe called a general council and )Vere urged to beeome one bod[...]ur mo'!thS, the Osage Na- tional Council J)llSSed a . resolution directing the principal chief to select a com- mittee of 11 for the purp0se of dra"!lng, a suitable allotment bill; and Whereas t11e Osa[...]s and for other purpo,;es was approved and become a lnw ; with n few amendments that were inju[...] |
| [...]r control of the administrators and it takes over a year to settle estates. Since the county court co[...]It takes two years or more to settle nu estnte ut a cost which is exces- sive. Under his act Osage b1[...]1 four questions of Yitai• lm))Ortnnce to us as a tribe, namely: ' 1. Exte11slo11 of[...]t our families and properties, such as farm stock a nd other ..things. We ask that an our illcome, '[...]e mbers of the Osage Tribe, which has constituted a large ex()enS'} for the 1~. or 15 persons. Und[...]ne 28, 1906, which provides fo1· the election of a principal chief, assi.Sta.llt cblef, and e[...] |
| [...]tor ·somethlng, liotel, or perhaps using it !or a boarding house. ·[...]lead, or other minerals mentioned In the lease. , A statement ot bow much money he reeelved from the[...]espectfully state that the Osages are prncticalJy a unit In support of sitid resolution and believe that as a matter of• Justice and right they are entltlc<l[...]sage mineral-trust period for at Ienst as long• a time as Is specified in said resolution."[...]d han<lle our nffnlrs In any way he wants to. At a hearing by a subcommittee of the Committee on: Indian Affairs[...]e In- terior Department appropriation bill 1931. A hearing before subcommittee of House Committee o[...]such attorney, Tbe Os,1ge Council, consisting of a principal chief, assistant principal chief, and[...]ates with the Osage County In the employment of a farm agent and borne demonstration agent,[...] |
| [...]ision of this existing production of oil and gns, a force of 20 Is maintained, most o! whom are engag[...]of t.b e fact that these employees are traveling a great part of the tin1e, replacement of auto- mob[...]ers of the Osage Tribe, wbeh duly authorized· or a))I)roved by the Secretary of the Interior, $10,00[...]ommitte<! made the request that any person having a stntment to make to the commltte<l, ·should forw[...],out-of-town busi- ness man was trying to collect a bill wl!icb- had nl~!)y · b~n paid. Juclge Hu[...]id be could not do. He then asked hin1 If be knew a man by the name or McGuire, to whlcb Judge Humphr[...]st my son, but upon examination found that the cl1a1·ges were groundless. The fact is t11nt the j[...]n as to the charges, but my son and John L. Bird, a Yery re1lutable citizen here, were· called to th[...]hat being blind, t11ey had chauffeurs, cooks, and a housekeeper and many visitors, they were s[...] |
| [...]foe 18 year&, and during tbat time ne,·er had a complaint to the department as far ns I know.[...]ns, but what the Indian's finances wero In such a condition that he was unable to get,credlt. llfos[...]oposltlon before me In such cases. To give them a llvlng and at the some time satisfy their creditors bas been a big job. · I want to say to you gentlemen th[...]ot believe that any mnn or body ot men cnn find a single Indian that ls not my friend. I speak thei[...]guardian and have never seen them to this day. A guardianship means a caretaker, one who takea care of them when they[...]ed away ln this month, was ln Congress when the a llotment bill wa.s passed. He consulted' the Incl[...]My family as far as I know, who are pioneers of a half century's duration In this immediate count[...]D. (J. My Dt:AR SEr<ATOR: Upon my return from a three W('8kS' buslnes.~ trip, to Memphis,[...] |
| [...]6913 -:Pah-pu-son-tsa Is a full-blood Osage woman whose husba.n d has ~n dead a long· number of years. She is now 81 years of[...]tion of guardians and with the exce)>- ·tlon of a very few ctl!;Cs has discontinued payment of any.[...]d by the agency in making payment of n stipulated a.mount at a specific time, as one day certain in each week, S[...]the 12th day of J uly, 1924. Pah-se-to-pah Is a deaf and dumb Indian man approximately 61 years o[...]ages; $38,000 certificates of deposit; making a total of $47,lllO, delivered to the department. T[...]s well as l do, 1· ;un fully convinced that a11 active guarctianship woulcl be better fo[...] |
| [...]dent discontinued payment to me, ns guardian, for a time nnd I was subsequently requested to handle h[...]nd n bnlf hcndrlghts through inherltnncc, one and a half hendrights being acquired after a long extended fight in the courts, contesting the will of a deceased sister, willing all of her property to w[...]bcnrt is now the owner of npproxlruntely five and a half hendrights. The regular payments of $1,000 p[...]the benefit of her health . Eliza Blgheart ls a notorious trouble-maker nod user of Intoxicating[...]e trouble brewing. During my guardianship of Ell7.a Blghenrt, I bave had her I-rented· by numbers of[...]ve suitable plates made for her. She bas suffered a number· of years from a skln disease which requires constant attention fr[...]nd have had her In Claremore for the radium baths a number of times and she ls n constant •;,lsltor[...]she'<lid not want me to quit ns guardian. She hns a whole.<;ome dislike for Mr. Wright, occasioned by[...]woman, who is now about 61 years of age and lS ·a widow with two grown daughters, I believe that he[...]I hnYe had considerable experlent-e, both from a departmental viewpoint and an ontSlder's viewpoin[...]of the superintendent of the Osage Indian Agency a year and a half before resigning from the service to enter t[...]an honestly conducted guardlnnshlp wlll result in a very mucJ1 .better environment and con- tented ho[...]gency has enabled me to understand-tile condition a departmental official Is placed !11, nnrl it is a ))hyslcal hnpossibility for tile superintendent t[...]t to effectually administer their nfl'airs. As a whole I think yon will find that the admi.[...] |
| [...]and acts are only to be -condemned. T he acts of a few avaricious persons h'ave caused the condemna-[...]the enactment of 1aws which have more elasticity. A hnrd and fast law restricting the expendi- tures[...]er members of t he tribe, who nt best hnve .imly a few years of life ahead of them, should be permitted 1a •1nrger ex- -pendlture of funds. if properly us[...]sed; even their Interest accounts are restricted. A gi:eater discretion should be vested in the loca[...]for the use of their funds :and would i:esult In a much,impro,·e<1 condition in their home lite.[...]. SEo. 9. T11at there shnll be a biennial election ot officers for the Osage ·Tribe as follows: A. Principal chief an(! as.~istant chier, eight mem[...]elected in 1906, said officers to be cleetecl nt a gen- •ernl election to be held iu the town of P[...]u Affairs, and said officers shall be elected for a period of two ye1,r,. com- mencing on the 1st da[...]nt principal chief shall succeed to said office a nd all vacancies in the Osage 'fribnl <Jouncii s[...]f June 28, 1900, officers s hall be elected ·for a period of two years, for 2- yeai· terms iu hol[...]e 28, 1006, of 2-yenr terms. Because bnlf-brcc<ls a1·c twice ns many in number ns the full blood, n[...]n, nud habits, and are ns competent in business a!Inlrs. Because the tl1eory of protecting the[...]e allot.tees would reduce them to the status of a reservation Inditn1, which would dcgr1u.le[...] |
| [...]ant who ls,indllferent about II permanent home Is a bad class In nny,'country.. Because the ,actua[...]ould build roads, bridge;,, schoolhouses and make a good neighbor nnd a good ex- ampJe of thrift and Jndustry to the allo[...]duty ·of the Osnge· Tribe or Iudlans to secure a full expression of the views of the full blood. n[...]re In fnvor or having trust perlO<I extension and a special provision. be made to have removal ou ·[...]wll~,be no new e,·l<lence, but by blood. Above· a half btoo,1 shall be rL~- moved from· Osa[...] |
| [...]Ponca Oity, Okla. The subcommittee met a.t 9.30 o'clock a. m., the Hon. Lynn J. Frazie1: ( chairman) presid[...]heeler, and Ebner Tho1nas. Also present: Mr. A. A. Grorudi special assistant to the subcom- 1nittee, and Mr. Nelson A. Mason, c erk of the conunittee. Senato1· F[...]rder. This hearing is· called under authority of a resolution adopted by the United States Senate au[...]tates. Oui· coinm1tfee· had expected to be here a 1nonth ago, but we "'ere held up for various reas[...]goin~ to call on Superintendent Snyder to give us a little out- line of tl1e situation here. A. R. SNYDER was thereupon called as a ,vitness and, after being first duly sworn, testified as follows : Senator FRAZIER. Your na1ne is A. R-. Snyder t 11r. SNroER. Yes, si r.[...] |
| [...]al area. of the reservations is 137,000 acres, or a little more than that. Approximately that. Senator. FnAZIER. It is quite a large territ.ory1 Mr. SNYDER. It is. Senato[...]s rental. Senator FRAZIER. Yes. Mr. SNYDER. A small pei:, cent; perhaps 5 per cent; perhaps 50 per cent comes in on a $1 rental. · Sena[...]At Pawnee, Okla. Senator FRAZIER. How much of a force have you 1 Mr. SNYDER. We have :nine cle[...]f1:. SNxoER. Well; he is here. ,ve never have had a co1nplete survey of the health conditions and I an1 not in a position to give you figures that ,voulct be accu[...]Senator vVHEELER. Have you no clinics here at a111 l\fr. SNYDER. No. , ,[...]should be? Mr. SNYDER. 1'Ve have. ,ve just had a field nurse appointed whose headquarters a[...] |
| [...]. SNYDER. No; they spend about three or four days a week right out ·on the reservation. Senator ,[...]have any syste1n so they will be able to give us .a ny information as to when, they visit these India[...]fice, so that when the field men go out they keep a record of when they visited John Smith's home and[...], Mr. SNYDER. Yes; they make a ,veekly report of each day's work. Senator WHEELER. We found in a lot of these reservations these field men have ne[...]at all; that some of the India.us are sick and in a deploi:able condition, and yet the Government has a force of field men and others that never visit them. Mr. SNYDER. One reason for 1naking a weekly report is to show each day of the week just what homes they visited. A copy is kept in our office and one copy forwarded[...]chool age attend school i Mr. SNYDER. There is a supervisor from ,vashington " 'ho has co1n- pleted a survey, and he handed 1ne the figures last night.[...]them. Mr. SNYDER. He has visited 331 families, a total of 772 children; 329 are in public schools.[...]are 62 out of 772 children out of school. That is a very good percentage.[...]were 5 or 6 year old children. Because of their a"e probably most of them. Ninety-two per c[...] |
| [...]l cost of maintaining the school. Then they .p ay a tuition accordingly. Senator 'IVHEELER. Ho[...], Senator FRAZIER. How. Jong h11ve you been a:cting as siiperintendent here?[...]r. SNYDER. '\-Vhen I caine here I receipted .with a.n official receipt for $517,000: l\1y present ba[...]g? Mr. Sio.-YDER. Yes; we have some.who have a pretty hard time. Senator FR,\ZIER. What perc[...]1' FRAZIER. How 1nuch 1noney do you spend here in a year in the upkeep of your offices, in pay rolls, and so forth? Mr. SNYDER. A little over $100,000. · Senator FRAZIER. Is that[...]SNYDER. 'l'hat is nil Gover111nent n1oney except a s1n111l amount of tribal 1noney,J>rincipally Pawnee ,noney; l?erh:ips a thousand or fifteen hundred ollars Ponca money and a little Otoe money. No Kaw or Tonkawa 1noney.[...]. Senator FRAZIER. That is ra.t,her low for a superintendent. Mr. SNYDF.R. 'l'he supe[...] |
| [...]who is here from the Indian office. I _go(; then1 a 1ninute ago. · Senator PI~E. And tho[...]ave 1nany applications for adn1ittance to (the P a.,vnee School that you are not able to nccom1nodat[...]part of Oklnho1na and we succeeded in getting a fe,v of the1n in ,vith .so1ne of the1n as far as[...]ay for the1n. If the Indians ba.ve the 1noney a.n d can afford to pay it they nre glad to have th[...]xactly. I think I can turn to the health section. A reJ?Ol't ·was 1nade on June 30 by the p[...] |
| [...]e do not have mm1y tribal matters. ,~7e have just a couple pieces of tribal land and the lense[...] |
| [...]OJIIAS. ,F ourth ¥ The Tonkawas and Poncas ab6ut a stand-off1 Mr. SNYDER. Just about a .stand-off. Senator THOMAS. That puts the 'f[...]rather low in the scale in connection with Indian a.ffairs, does it not 1 Mr. SNYDER. Yes, sir.[...]rom the •offices. They have.no office near with a representative-down here at all. Senator 'fHO[...]ind it possible to spend 50 per cent of your time a,vay fro1n the office 1 Mr. SNYDF..11. "\Veil,[...]Senator THo)rAs. You have on hand practically a, half 1nillion dol- lars. Is that correct? . 11r. SNYDER. Yes. sir; nearly a half million dollars. Senator TJI0J11a[...] |
| [...]pital. located on? h1r. SNYDER. ,There is a 4½-acre tract. . Senator THOM'AS. ,vas that land given by a tribe to the agency!· ?.fr. SNYDER. It r[...]the Indians have had an aversion to going to a hospital. That has been my experience:[...] |
| [...]hool that "1antedi to go to boarding schools1 A-Ir. SNYDER. .No. Senator 1'HOMAS. How 1nany a[...]turned down. Senator THOMAS. 'fhere is still a hundred left1 l\1r. SNYDER. Yes; out of that numbei· ,ve got quite a nu1nber in the other schools-Fort Sill and Chiloc[...]urse, the Indian people are meat eaters. They eat a good deal of meat. Senator 'l'11011rAs. vVhen[...]st of our Indians have gardens now. You will find a good 1nany Indians have put a,"•ay some crops and 1nost of t he1n drie[...] |
| [...]Do they can fruit? . l\f1·. SNYDER. A fe,v. The .Pa,vnees do more than any other tribe. I do not know but I imagine there are a good many l(aws can fruit and look out for those[...], Senator THOMAS. Is that because of a natural and gradual ascend- ency of conditions,[...]provided with? Mr. SNYDER. We ran about $200 a 1nontli during the winter months. Sena[...] |
| [...]ator THOl\IAS. You thi.n,k it is pretty 1nu<'h of a bluff? ~ir. SNYDER. Ml}yb,e so.[...] |
| [...]Mr. SNYDER. The superintendents have discussed a plan 9f asking for some sort of reimbursable agre[...]enator 1'llo11rAS. It occurs to me he should make a report to Wash- ington and get explicit instructi[...]I am objecting to. Senator FRAzIER. Over here a day or two ago because there were some leases on[...]lessees to pay. That will be of soine benefit but a suit will not get •the I ndian the money. Se[...]' Mr. SNYDER. ,:ve have not had a survey of that, Senator. Of course, there are cases that come to our attention once in a while that ,vould indicate they are. Senator P[...]al attention? l'i{r. SNYDER. There ought to be a survey made of that sort. There has not been. The[...]Mr. SNYDER. Yes, sir. Senator 1'lloM..i.S. .A physician¥ Mr. SNYDER. Yes, sir.[...],, Senator THOM,\S. He practices among them as a voluntai·y prop• osition 1[...] |
| [...]6929 Mr. SNYDER. Well, of course, it is just a matter of choice with the Indians as to their !)h[...]~ Mr. SNYOER. He did at one time. He,was a Government_physician at one time at Ponca. · S[...]een here! Mr. bNYDER. Yes, sir; ther~ may be 'a 'few I have not; not 1nany. Senator FRAZIER.[...]I>ER. Sometimes more· thap once; ,vhenever I had a reason for going.[...]here is some co1·1·espondence here in regard to a complaint that pipe lines or high lines and ppwer[...]"\Vha:t about that? o-Ir. SNYDER. We have had a good deal of that w.o rk this last year, due to the fact that the Oklahoma Gas & Electric Co. has built a plant out on the Ponca Reservation. We have had a good deal of that. Senator FnAZIER. Did you say a po,ver plant1 ~fr. SNYDEn-. Yes, sir. Sen[...]s' property 1 ~fr. SNYDER. No; they purchased a piece of property out on the river· r,nd ,ve have had a good deal of pipe-line business. I just talked t-[...]r line down the highway? Mr. SNYDER. 1Ve have a •controversy with them now on the section line.[...]ed some citations t-0 the department and there is a controversy going on between the 0 . G. & E. Co.[...]many claims of that sort? ~Ir. SNYDER. Quite a few. we have quite a lot of that sort of business.[...] |
| [...]best information that we could gather it va-ries a little,bit, but I think an average$>£ about $20 a set of poles or sometliing like that.[...]lained to me this rnorning they ,vere offering $3 a pole on his land. . . 'Mr. SNYDER. .-That[...]l\'Ir. SNYDJ•:R. Ou r wealthiest Indian boy is a ICaw, who has a bank balance of about $300,000. Senator Wr o:E[...]d.) Dr. R. n. PRYCll "' as thereupon called as a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testif[...]ctor PRYOR. Yes, sir. Senator FRAzn:R. You are a physician? Doctor PnYOll. Yes, sir. Senator[...]tQr PRYOR: Yes, sir. Senator Fn,1ut:R. Are yon a pnrt-ti1ne physician-are yon a con- tract physician? Doctor PRYOR. I nm a whole-time physician. Senator FRAZJ:ER.[...] |
| [...]there.1 Doetor PRYOR. I have been t.11ere over a. year. Senator Wul:ET,ER. You ought to kno·w[...]tudying Indian problems. Senator WHEELER. From a medical I?oint of view1 Doctor PRYOR. ,veil, I[...]. Senator WHF.ELER. ,vhenever there is a call made by these Indians you go out there, do y[...]to the office and as I go in.to the home and have a.ny suspicion of disease among them. Senator[...]your duties requi1·e you to 1nnke some ~ort of a survey on these Indian reservations ,vhere[...] |
| [...]1 Doctor PRYOR. To make a survey I would; yes•sir. lt' would tak-i quite a. time. It would take up several Jnonths of my tim[...], · Doctor PRYOR. A good many. Over the Ponca and '£onka·wa, Res- e[...]de by our specialist, Doctor Goodwin. He has made a survey a number of times and his records are -i.n tho offi[...]. Doctor PRYOII. Why, he did not make a survey as such, but he was there six 1nonths ago.[...]he was there? Doctor PnYOR. He ,vas there only a short while. Senato1· WHEELER. What did he do¥ Doctor PR1·011. He did not tnake 1nuch of a survey at that t,i1ne, but he has made ii survey[...]PuYOR. I have not loo.keel over his files. T hey a.re all in the office. .[...]one I Doctor PRYOR. Yes, sir. Senator vVH1,a:1,1;n. You do not know how recently though[...] |
| [...]WHEELER. You do not know anything about it; it is a pure guess? Doctor PRYOR. No.t hing definite. Senator "\VHEELER. Just a guess¥ · Doctor PRYOR. Only those I[...]Senator WHEELER.. Dq you not think it would be a pretty good idea to make a survey yourself down there and try to. check up a[...]ergency cases. , Senator WHEELER. Do you have a hospital there¥ Doctor P:RYOR. No, sir. Senat?r ."\VHEEI.ER. There is a new hospital being built on the reservation 1[...]eservation. Senator FRAzn:n. In order to make a survey and take care of your work you would have[...]t makes the survey. Senator FRAZIER. Have you a field nurse 1 Doctor PRYOR. We have at present for a weeki yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. How long has[...]nator "\VHEEI.ER. H ow 1na.ny people do you visit a week down there¥ · Doctor PRYOR. Well, I attend in the office on an average of 20 a day. Senator WHEELER. You attend at the office an average of 20 a. day¥ Doctor PRYOR. About that; yes, ,sir.[...]Senator WHF,ELF.R. How many calls do you make a week¥ Doctor PnYOR. I make on an avera&e 5 to 10 calls each day. Senator FRAZIER. A1·e you furnishea with a car¥ Doctor PRYOR. Yes, sir. Senator PIN[...]Doctor PRYOR. Doctor Goodwin was not there but a day or two- this specialist on trachoma that mnkes surveys. He ,,va.s at P awnee for a week or 10 days, I think, at.school. Senator PINE. And he spent about a day or two with ,you¥ Doctor PnYOR. Yes, sir[...]e little·cnll out. He did not have time to make a survey at that tin1e. H e just went up there to help out ,vhen he was not employed a.t Shawnee. Senator FRAZIER. Have you[...] |
| [...]ANS IN UNITED STATES Doctor PRYOR. I just keep a record of the new cases. I have not |
| [...]ince 1905. Senator THOMAS. What school are you a graduate of¥ Doctor PRYOR. Tulane University,[...]rge business, what would your salary probably be a month if the collections were made¥ Doctor PRYOR. It ,vould be about a hundred dollars a day; Senator ,VHEELER. He probably would not[...]I am trying to dra,v out is to see how busy you a1_!, ,vhether you earned the 1noney that the Govcr[...]s, sir. Sennto1' WHEELER, I ·have never seen a Government employee who did not think he[...] |
| [...].80 p. m:. ob 'October 24. On October 25, about 7 a. m., I en lled to see the sale!, Jobn Clnrk. On[...]bis residence. He was nn Omaha Indiall mnnied to a Ponca woman, and they bad no property or permanen[...]n thnt John C,lnrk was not on the reservation but a few hours before his death, which Information wil[...]Pl1'11sician.I Personally appeared before me, a notary public in and for Kay County, ,Okin. R. B.[...]a ~Okla., and brought to the Ponca Reservation In a dying condition and that h• did not liv[...] |
| [...]. Senator FRAZIER. You are •located in Pon!)a City 1 Doctor NIEMANN. Ponca City. Senato[...]N. Yes, ,sir. S.e nator FRAZIER. You have got a lot of practice amo;1g the Indians1 Doctor Nn1brANN. I havi, had in the past and still have some a1nong them at the present time; yes, sir. Sena[...]ctor NIE~rANN,• For fqur years. Tl~ere has been a little in- crease each year. ,Quite small-[...] |
| [...]or 12 years ago, as I re1ne1nber it, there ,vas a general drive 111ade to,vard the curing or stan1p[...]hink it ,vas, and I believe they 1net with quite a good deal of success. Senato1· FRAZIER. Can[...]eve it is generally conceded t luit tracho,na is a condition which at best can merely be arrested a[...]ey, J1ad some Government hospitals estab- lished a fe,v years ago, and, as I remember it, they claim[...]e, but 1nost of these cases that come now are of a chronic na.ture. The involve- 1nent has gone so[...]e are several methods. Doctor vVhite has .devised a new operation that is used only in chronic[...] |
| [...]only one lived long enough to reach school age. A.1nong the whites, six out of every seven that ar[...]xisted n1ore or less dul'ing the last quarter of a century. Senator FnA,111::R . Do you think du[...]or five years conditions lu\ve been improving in a great many reservations at least1 Doctor N1u[...]sand of Indians. 'l'he best you can do is to get a "'eneral practitioner who has not specialized in[...]uation. 'l'hc county provides 111edica1 n1en and a nurse. Half of the expense is paid by the county[...]lth conditions of t he rural co1nmuuitics. He has a nurse with hiin, he contacts contagious and infec[...]n as well as nursing. It is far easier to prevent a disease than to cure it afterwards. Senator W[...]g that line. We have not tauiht these Indians. As a matter of fact the great bulk of these Inaians ar[...]ere 25 years aao. Of course whei-e they have made a lot of money they are more a8vanced but I 1nean the general run of the[...] |
| [...]alth conditions or in any •·o ther way. It is a deplorable thing, it seems to me, the way the Gov[...]ator WBEEX,En. Yes. Doctor NIEMA.NN. You have a splendid instit ution oyer _her~ at Pawnee at a cost of over a hundred thousand dollars, which 1s badly needed.[...]ry ·little good to .the Indians unless you have a proper personnel to govern, guide, and look after[...]the Indians the service that they need. You need a m~n particularly that is quali- fied in studying[...]he third 1s lack of proper isolation. If there is a case of an infectious disease th'a t breaks out on the reservation, there is no prop[...]n nearly all of the little towns were carrying on a campaign to ~o out and educate these Iridian wome[...]overning themselves. Doctor NIEMANN. There is a :peculiar situation-not necessarily peculiar, but an interesting situation- that exists here to-day as for a ntunber of yeiirs, and that is the care of the Indians from a surgical point of vie"'. The Indians will accept[...]al and sur~ical care if it is offered to them. As a matter of fact they want 1t. They accept .it will[...]glad to continue this; but it places the agent in a rather e1nb1~rra.ssing position. H,e has a sick Indian that needs hos- pitalization. He hesi[...]ccommodations without any possible hope of pay. I a1n sure he does not hesitate to ask the sur[...] |
| [...]ommittee, if you twill, what you would suggest as a prop.er personnel for the Pawnee HosJ)ital, comme[...]uld say, first that your chief of staJl should be a 1nan who has had considerable hospital !)Xperience. He 1nust have a foundation to 1begin with,. a· graduate-from a medical school. Sena.tor 'fuo~rAs. ~ 7hat do you mean by "a chief of staff "1 Doctor NIEMANN. The man who[...]oung Indians are intelligent enough to know that a 1nan \l•ho might be a surgeon can not be a specialist in different lines. Senator THOMAS. There is no such thi~ as a general specialisti Doctor NIEMANN. They real[...]n finding out the conditions that these Indians a.re in and what the Government employees have be[...]I' had. about 300 pupils. My, salary ,vas $1,800 a. year and I had to furnish my own conveyances. I a1n often startled to think I remained as long as I did. We had not a full-time man. I had |
| [...]nities, is immunized for life against diphtheria, a'?ainst smallpox, against many of the acute contag[...]ciently carried out,. Senator THOMAS. Is that a. conservative statement or repertoriClll statemen[...]elt th!)y were entitled to. Senator Pun:. Can a doctor handle 20 to 30 patients a clay and give then1 the attention he shoul[...] |
| [...]ians; twice as much illness among the Indians and a far greater territory to cover. Our people are ri[...]d.) ERNEST THOlllPSON was thereupon called ns a witness, and, after being first duly s,vorn, test[...]The Kaws. Senator FRAZIER. The l{aws. You are a member of the busincss council 1 .[...]l\1r. THOMPSON. No. Senator FRAZIER. Have you a statement you want to n1ake? Mr. 'fHO?oIPSON.[...]SON. The chairman of the council is here. We have a lady chief ; a chieftess. Senator FRAZIER. Have you any comp[...]ator WHEELER. Doing ,vhat 1 Mr. THOllIPSON, I a1n in the first-1nortgage business; taking mort- g[...]ted Indian land· yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. .A.re you familiar with ti1e situation of the[...] |
| [...]~{r. THOMPSON. Sold it by getting what they call a patent in fee. ,ve get what we call ,1 certifica[...]t around it in other ,vaysi Mr. 'THOMPSON. I a1n sure I could not tell you. We have one Indian[...]or FRAZIER. D~ you kno_w of ll!}Y !nd1ans who had a patent 1n fee g1 ven to them ,v1thout, the[...] |
| [...]6945 l\{r. l'HO~IPSON. I only know of a}>out 10 that still have the origi- nal 400 acres[...]llPSON. No; I do not. Senator Tuol\IAS. Is it a universal rule or is it a rule universally when a1i Indian gets his lands in the condition he can s[...]my experience goes it is not universal but it is a rule almost of universal application. l\{1·.[...]· Senator PrNE. If you can make a mortgage loan are you not qualified to handle/our[...]Mr. THOMPSON. Mrs. Ganns was not allotted. She is a half sister to Mr. Curtis. Senator THOMAS. Do you not consider it a real test of coml?etency that they should refrai[...]l that sort of thing¥ Mr. THOMPSON. I would a ,vhole lot rather see the whole 400 acres restri[...]s you tliey arc not co1npetent of taking care of a little tax matter. I have seen it tried over there a1nong our people for the last 10 years. They |
| [...]hey fail to realize their homes are taxable and I a1n sure if they were taxable they failed to look a[...]they beginning to' realize that they have to make a living for then1selves and look 'after the1nselv[...]N. Yes, sir; in our tribe over there there is not a young full-·blood boy that fails to realize that[...]enrs. Senator vVa1:F.LJ:R. Ho,v do they 1nake a living1 Do they work around 1 Mr. THOMPSON. A[...]Senator 'faOMAS. ,ve have been driven around for a day or two by an Indian ,vho has never had an all[...]been of age that has enabled him recently to buy a fann. He is quitting his job he is now engaged in on the first of the year to go on his farm. Is that a common practice among your tribes out there 1[...]labor. Senator 'fHO~IAS. But they are making a living¥ · ~'fr. 'l'HOMPSON. They are 1naking a living. Senator T.HOlll<\S. But not many are[...]Senator THOM;\S. Are they in pretty 1nuch of a e◊1n1nuui.ty settle- 1.n ent or are they scatte[...]live out on the farms. Senn tor PINE. You had a reservation out there at one ti1ne 1 Mr. 'l'HOMl'SON. Yes, sir; we had a reservation out there at one time.[...] |
| [...]ONDITIONS OF INDIANS IN UNITED STATES 6947 status a1nong these several Indian tribes down here. From what you MY you are getting a.long probably as good as could be expected and be[...]' RuFus TusT was thereupon called as a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testif[...]· Senator FRAZIER. Have you a state1nent to 1nake on behalf of your Indians?[...]peak up loud. Mr. TEsT. I came over here with a fe,v of my friends on account of what I heard thr[...]Kaw school subagency. '1·he Govern1nent reserved a 10-acre tract. Senator FRAZIER. A 10-acre tract i Mr. Tus-r. Yes; and as I unde[...],v. There was formerly an agency there. It is now a sub- agency, or ought to be. Senator FRAZIER.[...]\fr. 1'EsT. 'l'he first time I heard about it was a friend of mine told us, and that is why we made a special ti·ip to come up here to see you.[...] |
| [...]. Mr. TEsT. I want to 1?ny a few tlungs in regard to the cemetery. I nm one o[...]Paul. There ought to be some money appropriated, a little over $800, for our cemetery. There is gra[...]' llfr. '!':EST. A fellow by the name of Fred Rickert. Senator F[...]get that work done; yes, sir. We ,vill help one a.nother, if you get the money. That is a.11 ,ve nee'd, is this rnoney. ,ve can go ahead a[...]osed to "et sonic- body here invhile back, about a yenr ago, and we never di~ hear of it. We[...] |
| [...]ir. · Senator vVHEELER. You do not need a doctor I Mr. 'IE.ST. So1ne need a doctor. I guess they have a doctor. Senator vV11EELER. vVhen you send for[...]nuch about that. Senator FRAZIER. Do you 1nean a Gover11ment doctor or do you hire a ~rivate doctor I 1'1:r. lEST. I do not think they got·a Government doctor. Senator FRAZIER. Is there a doctor up there on the reservation I 1'1:r. SNYDER. No, sir. Doctor Pryor stated he made a few trips to the Kaws. Senator WHEELER. 'they[...]ctor down therel Mr. SNYDER. No, sir; they use a local fhysician. ' Senator WH[...]The I ndians. Senator FRAiIER. .When you have a hospital ,vill that be located so they can have t[...]er four tribes. Senator THOMAS. Do you live on a farin or in townl 1'1:r. TEsT. I live in to,vn[...]You say you live in town I Mr. TEsT. I live in a little town; we call it a town. Senator Tuo11rAs. How large a town I 1'1:r. TEsT. A small town-80 acres. Senator l'HOllIAS. Ho,v ma[...]g there. Senator·Ta;OMAS. l¾hat do you do for a livingi l\ir. TEsT. Well, sir I do not d[...] |
| [...]mbers in your family1 i\fr. TEST. 1'hree; just a wife and boy. ·Senator T HOMAS. How old is the[...]o1netiines ,vhen he gets the job and he ,vorks on a pipe line like that, but there is not any ,vork n[...]t hiinself? Mr. TEsT. Yes, sir; he makes quite a bit of money ; that is, he gets several jobs.[...]Ir. 'I'Es1'. \Veil, they do not have anything but a little house and a little furniture. Senator 1'noMAS. What do the[...]r 'fHOMAS. If they have peas and potatoes that is a pretty good fare. ~fr. 1'Es·1·. They get that once in a ,vhile. |
| [...]IANS IN UNITED STATES 6951 Senator T a o1>1AS. How often 1 All the ti1ne 1 Mr. 'l'EsT. No, sir; not all the tiine. Senator THOMAS. What I a1n t.1•ying to get at is ,vhether or not the In[...]y get by some ,vay. Senator TaOll!AS. That is a mystery to you J Senator Pnrn. Ho,v many 1nembers on your council 1 A:fr. TEST. Only three on the business co1nmittee.[...]r. Shoteau1-- Senator PINE. 'fhe other one is a 1nixed blood 1 Mr. 'l'EsT. Yes, sir.[...]excused.) FRANK EAGLE ,vas thereupon called as a witness and, being first duly s,vorn, testified a[...]EAGLE. 'l'he Poncas. Senator FRAZIER. Are you a 1ne1nber of the tribal council or busi- ness council i Mr. EAGLE. No, sir; I a1n not a 111c1nber of the tribal council. Senator FRAZIER. Were you selected to make a state1nent to the committee in behalf of your Indians 1 Mr. EAGLE. I a1n selected t-0 look aft~r the private or individu[...]his statc1nent. However, I have been requested by A1r. Cook to iippear before the co1n1nittee if the[...]ER. This is condemnation of what1 Mr. KING. Of a right of way for a raih·oacl through his land and also for the plac[...]dian Council and he is supposed to present tha.t, a.nd I would rather have hiin do that. I |
| [...]' The Ponca Tribe of Indians held a 'council some time 11) February, · 1030, which c[...]. ,vhen Supt. A. n. Snyder took charge of the agency at Pawnee, Ponca City, Otoe. Kaw City, ancl Tonkawa, there was a land sale of the Po)lca Indians so the money t'Ol[...]t, The fariner in charge of the Po1,1ca subagency a1>praised the land at $17,500, aud the Oklahoma Ga[...]e Indian Office: said ii could be done, nud Supt. A. R. Snyder made a deal and got $10,000 for the lnnd and told the ol[...]ie Buffalobc.acl for $15,000. These lands brought a fair price and the" Indians were satisfied, but somehow Supt. .A. n. Snyder ancl Farmer Feagin blocked these sales. A letter sent to the Indinn Office by the superint[...]e owners refused to sell on account of not having a place to build. '.1.11ls was done ,,,1thout Ute k[...]ferred and the officials arc no exceptions. Supt. A. n. Snyder misinformed the In<linn Office an<l b[...]or his work to help t.be Indians, but the In~lans a1·e not gettirig any hel1> from the superintende[...]to the poor Indians. I have been here many years a1id I have known many of the Indian agents and kn[...]now the way the Indians nre treated under Su1>t. A. n. Snyder and Farmer Feagin.[...] |
| [...]t Snyder told me if I don't do it I would not see a red penny o( that money. Superintendent Snyder ls[...]mber, but they built with poor lumber, and I wade a protest and I was going to sue the lumber company[...]ed that. l had 40 acres of hay meadow, and I made a deal with a party for $2 an acre. Farmer 1''eagip. would nqt 0. :J~. that deal nnd 0 . K'd a deal for another man for $1 per acre. l keep acco[...]nlle Crazy Bear's name, nnd I took that ,-heck to a lumber company, and the manager cashed it for me.[...]air was to be made on their house. Superintendent A. n. Snyder, appraised It about $800. Con, t,·nct[...]ear. '£bat sore bas been there ever since he was aA. n. Su)•der wanted ,Tohn Elk to repair house that bis sister Maggie ls living In that house. I made a protest of using John Elk's money to 1·epnir tha[...]Elk did not want to repair that house, but Supt. A. n. .Snyder influenced him to repair that house.[...]c<I for $800. F armer Feagin would not given him a trading order when be asked for it., and h[...] |
| [...]ogether to spend her money. One day she asked tor a trading or<ler to buy clotbiog tor her two girls.[...]t the request tor $15 bad been sent to the office a1,cl she received the balance of her money, but th[...]coats of pnint, m;id $150 to be used for building a stone cave. '.L'he cave was poorly made. The atte[...]t him and be would not give lier an order on that a ccount, but be Is g iving orders wherever It was[...]Engle said thot tliese were neccs• snry things; a nd It made him mad nn1l be swore at Frank Engle f[...]AINT Of.' ALl'REDA M'DUOAN BUFFAL0.8.DAD Supt. A. R. Snyder when be took charge of the agency had a Chevrolet car of |
| [...]OENDlAL CO:U.PLAJNT About a year ago Inst Christmas tbe J?onca Indians bad au[...]ment doctor dled andiwe were without medical aid. A. C. |
| [...]r than I could. Senator· FRAZIER. You are in a court case. What can we do for you 1[...]in that. •· l\ii·. K.INo. I understand it is a case, as I understand, but that does not take it[...]ago, the Oklahoma Gas & Electric Co. constructed a rail- road across tbls SO acres .of land nnd bu[...]s• the uortb and south side of said land. Mr. A, F. Snyder, superintendent or' the Pone/I, Indi[...]nting us any relief. Our efforts haYe resulted in a lot of correspondence, but we obtnined no defin[...]Department. On i1ay 26, 1930, we entered Into a contract with Mr. J. F . King nnd Mr. Bcnj. E, Cook, which provided them compensation on a percentage basis of that amount over and ab,ove[...]pre- sentatives' In Oklahoma City, and arranged a meeting with a ,view of settling the controversy. This[...] |
| [...]nty n special appen,·auce and motion to dismiss. A copy of thls motion ls attached hereto. ,[...]ict court by the Oklahoma Gas & Electric Co., Mr. A. R. Snyder wns served with a copy of this petition, b,ut he did not appear In[...]to protect our Interests. Ou May 22, 1930; Mr. A. R. Snyder wrote to my attorney, Mr. Benjamin E. Cook, a . letter, a copy or which is attached hereto. For approximate[...]any action for the protection of our rights. (a.) Why, If be represents our Interests, did he eve[...]ed with notice of the condemnation suit, and made a pa1·ty to It, he, nor any else in the dep[...] |
| [...]D. E!!gle, defendant SPOOIAL A,l'PEARANCE ANI> NOTIO>l ffO OISMI.$$ Comes n[...]ht bY the plnlntlff, Oklahoma Gas & Electric Co., a corp0rat1on, |
| [...]S 695-9 J. F. KING ;was thereupon called as a ,vitness, and;after being first du!y sworn testif[...]tatemen,t. Mr. KI,NG. I understand now this is a statement as an attorney; not as a witness 9 Senator FnAzIER. You are a witness. If you do not want to make a statement as a witness we do not want you. Mr. KING. I will b[...]· This man's wife inherited a piece of land about 2 miles south of here. She got in1through patent; it was a patent from the United States Government. This pa[...]side of this 80 acres, which runs north and south a series of electric-li~ht poles, high-power poles,[...]d not do it. 'I think it was built for 1hore than a year and then they finally ca1ne here and brou.,h[...]ousand four hundred and seventy-five dollai:s5... a .consideration increase. Mr. ·1"EST. $2,407.[...]As you know, our constitution provides where a company of that kintl, having this power of en1inent domain, they must before they touch ~h~t land have.a commissioner appointed b:y the court and CO!)· demn 1t 1n a lawful manner and P!t:Y the money 1n court[...] |
| [...]it. Of course, as I say, I am simply appearing as a lawyer. 'rhe interests, of course, is to protect[...]rotect the railroad company? Mr. KING. Thnt is a matter of opinion. Senator TrroMAS. You have a[...]Senator T HO,\ras. And the district attorney, a F ederal official, is 1naking that application¥[...]rse I do not think he knows anything about it, as a matter of fact. Senator WHEELER. Why do you no[...]t is not clear in 1ny 1nind as to whether this is a ri"ht-of-way :for a hio-h line or railroad? Mr. l {ING. Both. 'the railroad which ,vas built made a connec- tion, I understand, ,vith the Sante Fe ro[...]the plant of the company on the river. They built a railroad ri~ht through his land and I. thi[...] |
| [...]STATES 6961 evidence right, cut off a corner. 'fhe road· co~es along here ancl it cuts[...]f compeling the county or so1nebody else to build a road along the county line. Senator FRAZIEJl[...]s man is entitled to 1 Mr. IuNG. I think, as a 1natter of fact, just a guess, he is entitled to $4,000 da1nage. Se[...]asis is your finn of attorneys taking t.l1e case-a percentage basis? l\{r. IuNG. Yes, sir; ,vo are taking it on a percentage basis, as I understand it fro1n l\'.[...]ome one you ,voulcl not have had to go and employ a private linvyer, would you 1 l\fr. EAG[...]ou1· place. Senator vVMEEI,ER. You are a restricted Indian, are lou not 1 Mr. EMJ[...],v Senator HEELER. Yon are still a ,vard of the Govern,nent on this trust paten[...]· 1ir. EAGLE. Yes, sir; it is nbout a ,nile and a half from t.he south line of the city. . l\'.lr. l(ING. I f the co,nmittee ,vill pnrdon a re1nark, one of the ob- Jcctions ,ve[...] |
| [...]et into court you can say' that. Let us have a statement :lirom the agent on tl;lis RrQposition.[...]rty protect,ed 1 Mr. SNYDER, 'fhat will take a- little time. Shall I start at the beo-inning.[...]sets of, allotments involved. They had agreed on a certain price per acre. I do not recall the amou[...]agle's tract of land, or his ,vife's tract-he is a patent-in-fee Indian himself, but this land is re[...]ew deed. 'fhe require1nent is before·you sub1nit a d~d the regulations require before you sen[...] |
| [...]ey have refused to sign the deed. 1'here has been a tonsiderable aJnount of corespo.ndence with the.[...]d was signed. 'fhe money is held in our office as a special deposit to the credit of the Government p[...]United States attorney at Oklaho1na City to file a petition of s.ome sort to have this t.ransferred[...]ourt, cited some law in this respect. I had only a copy of the letter signed oy the Co1nmissioner of[...]enator THOllIAS. Do you think this Indian can get a better award in the Federal court than he could[...]t experience in cpndemnation proceedjngs, and J: a1n therefore not qualified to answer. Senator FRAZIER. Yqu stated that you thought $500 nn acre was a fai1: amount for the company to pay? Mr. SN[...]SNYDER, I do not. know. From then on it has been a matter between the Indian Office and the Attorn[...]superintendent 1nnde the appraisement for $500 a.n acre, which is about three acres-3.54 acres-tak[...]forties on the highway, Mr. Snyder thinks they a.re worth more because they are· on that highway. We are about a quarter of a n1ile east, of this 40, and I figure our land between the 0 . G. plant, ,v'here there is a highway and the O. G. plant, ,ve figure our land is worth just ns much as theirs. They told us it was a war deed, ,vhnt thoy call it in Anadarko,[...] |
| [...]n, they said tnat <1eed was no good; it got to be a straight deed; ,vhy, then n1y wi'fe, and I though[...]or they would not have taken your case. You have a perfect right to consult attorneys.[...] |
| [...]d I brought Mrs. De Lo·dge's bank account. I had a transcript made of her bank account. I have not c[...];ELER. What about that¥ Mr. SNYDER. '\>Ve have a man ,vho handled the pipe-line rights of way. He[...]t that, Mr. Eao-lei I have ,vhat pur- ports to be a statement signed by you in whict you say that Ind[...]What do you know about that Y Mr. EAGLE. We had a ·little experience on that one time. l\'I[...] |
| [...]you know about him 1 Mr. EAGLE. Well, I know a lot about him. Senator WHEF.LER. Tell us about that. Mr. EAGLE. He is a farmer over here at .t he subagency at Ponca and White Eagle. He got that position. H e is supposed. to be a farmer and know his busmess, but he goes to scho[...]att l',fr. EAGLE. H e goes to school ; to the A. & M. College once in a while. Then he goes to some other school, taking[...]is dut;r right here b;r going to school, getting a good education, but the l ndran 1s not ge_tt1ng a[...]' Mr. EAG.Lll. There is, a wh~le lot of it in ther~.. I ca,n ·nC?t remember[...]. Senator THOMAS. If you·take it to a grocery store, the grocery1nan fills part of it ,[...]I Senator THOMAS. Can you ask the aiency £qr a $5 o.rclej tor ~ ro- ceries and then say a. $10 order foi: nardware l "" ord a. .$15 order, for clothin<> 01· s h oes1 . , Mr. EAGLE. A five or ten dollar order for groceries'; yoJ•c&[...]lain abot'1t·having au· order and taking 'it to a store and you have to ~pend the.entire. or[...] |
| [...]oing to public schools and where the Indians have a rental t.h at is due or money comin~ in, we somet[...]ce-that is, you go tq th~ agency and he gives you aa year or a year and a half ago. 1'here was a change and the district super- intendents and su[...]well, suggested that ,ve get the Indians down to a cash system. Senator WHEEL!i!R. He is right..[...]farmer Fagin, out here¥ ?iir. SNYDER. I have a very high regard for ?,{r. Fagin. Senator WHE!i!LER. Here is a statement made by the Indians. One of · them sa[...]our present com1nissioner that all farmers take a short course during the summer at an accre[...] |
| [...]F INDIANS IN UNITED STATES Mr. SNYD:&R. About a week. I think he spends about a week in |
| [...]tricted property, where it is neces- sary to take a bill of sale, and oflice work. Senator ,vm:ELE[...]er you want to say! lfr. EAGLE. Well, ,ve have a tribal co1nplaint here, but it is not rny place t[...]s excused.) HUGH EAGLE was thereupon called as a witness, and, after being first duly sworn, testi[...]Of the Pawnee tribe. Senator FRAZIER. Have you a staternent you want to rnake to the co1nmittee re[...]cil 1 Mr. EAGLE. ,vhy, there are many things I a1n requested to speak on. It seems that we have ap[...]r WHEELER. ,<Vhy not i '!'hat is what we have got a super- intendent here for. You are supposed to co[...]LE. 'fhat is it. That is understood. But is there a super- intendent anywhere on the reservati[...] |
| [...]OF CONDITIONS OF INDIANS IN UNITED STA_TE/S \JSe a. privj\te physician, just like Doctor ~ie1nann. H[...]tty regu- |
| [...]or not. 1 Senator WnEELl:n. ,v11a't eJ'se· have you got to say about tribal |
| [...]NDITIQNS 0,F llj'DIANS ,I?\ ,l[N)TED STATES our a 0 e. We had to be 14 in order,to enter Chilocco o[...]Mr. EAGLE. Yes, sir. |
| [...]s of agricultural land you could at least raise a garden and get quite a lot to live on at least ¥ Mr. EAGLE, "\Ve do that. Senator WHEELER. How much of a garden have you got1 Mr. EAGLE. I do not kno[...]ER. How much do you planti Mr. EAGLE. About a half acre. Senator WHEELER. About a half acre. How many potatoes do you rais[...] |
| [...]not do anything the other year, but I did raise a litt.le,this year. · '[...]Mr. EAor,E. I never noticed how much. Tliere'is ·a complaintmade by a boy here, stating that if he tried to ' work he c[...]i the fi'rsi! chance before he "'ives the Indian a chance only ,vhere they -ar13 willi'ng 'to ,vork for a•hnost nothing;- that is, not compared to:the 1[...],Senator ·.FllAZIER; Nori~ o'f them. •at ·a.11 t , •. '. • ·' ., ' •. · ,[...]ipped ·1n; they are old employees. I understood a white man to say that people in tHis locality cou[...], GEN'lµ':MEN : We f\lpo wish , to call your a~tentlon to the method o,f leasing Indian allotmen[...]dl~ect to the. Indian nllottee, · and this makes a hardship up0n th& 1ndlans to get, this money paid[...]~l~aslng It tor hunting purposes. Attached Is' a few of the hunting permits on the allotmen[...] |
| [...]at n loss as to whom to take the matter up with, a$ Mr. Slly!lcr is al)Yl!YS_.l!t ~!l'Yllee. And as[...]on .of tbese Indians under one agency Is too big a· task for one man to assume, and that ile will[...]complaining of bis lack of interest In them. In a short thp.e ,from .now. the. Federal building is[...]up, and for what purposes. ,ve feel there,.is ·a great dealil>f need for -higher education among l[...]o•day b,aye• no· funds .and means to procure a higher ecluca- tion, to compete with the white people noel the existing conditions of to-day. It Is. a we)k,n9.wn°fact tbat the India,n children[...] |
| [...]eration. We have been anticipating your visit tor a long time. We are happy at this time to pr[...] |
| [...]the Ponca Ind.tans. As the employee Is turnlsbed a car for bis own use, oil and gas Included, we fee[...]actically deserted all times of the day. There Is a shortage of clerical help In the office and there[...]Is neces· sary to relieve these conditions. We a!So wish to call your attention to the tact that[...]States Government. ,ve feel that we should have a voice In the dlsp0sal of these funds, which bas b[...]Washington under an net appropriated by Congress. A.nd at the disposal of these funds the Indians r[...]. · Loms McDONALD was thereupon called as a witness and, after being first duly. swor[...] |
| a question. , .' Senator FRAZIER. What[...]ALD. We have ~ g~neral complaint by the tribe and a written statement and ! want to Just know ,vhethe[...]. Is .this the statement1 Mr. McDONALD. I want a. ~eneral complaint of the tribe to go in. Sena[...]., r Senator vVuEELER. You are a 1nember of the Ponca Tribet Mr. McDONALD. Yes,[...]. • Senator ,vu.i:ELER: Are vou -a farmer out here1·' ,..,. McDo'Ni\i.D.' ;11[...]that money to pay my doctor bill. Superintendent A. n. Snyder, told me that they would refund my mon[...]the house was burned down and the superintendent, A. R. Snyder. has rented thnt place for $2.50 nn ac[...],,ns to repnir the house, but it was burned down. A $200 wortJ1 bnrn to be built, but 1 am not[...] |
| [...]9 and he keep_s and f~~s about 400 to 500 hogs at a t\,me, and you can just imagine that this ls one[...]t time for his own benefit by going school at the A. & M. College, Stillwater, Okin., and summer scho[...]e only way that be could get any money from Supt. A. R. Snyder. Supt. A. It Snyder bas promised to give him $25 If be wou[...]e. RonERT I,ITrLEDANCE ,vas thereupon called as a witness, and, after being first duly sworn, testi[...]CE. About 175 acres. S enator FRAZIER. .Are you a restricted I nd inn 1 Mr. Lrrrr,EDANCE. No, sir; a patent in fee Indian. Senator FRAZIER. Of cours[...]s working on their fnrms1 Mr. L =EDANCE. I know a f e,v who are trying to work. Senator WHEELER. A few that are trying to work1 Mr. LtT'l'I[...] |
| [...]LEDANCE. I think he came there once just to bring a check there; that is all.[...]d see them every no,v and then. I happen to be at a sick man's home one tilne ; I was there to visit[...]enator ,vnt:1:L1:R. 1.'hree "'eeks ago. ,vus that a restricted In• dian? Mr. LITTLEDANCE. I do not know. S enator ,vnE1:1,1:a. -,Vhat "'as his ·name? Afr. LIITLEJ>A[...] |
| [...]:n:.EoANCE. I do not know; he had been sick quite a while. Senator THOMAS. Several days, ,veeks, o[...]MAS. Typhoid fever? Ml'. Lt'ITLEDANCE. I!e had a fever with it, and that kind of sickness I do not[...]poisoning. Senator FRAZIEI!. Did they not have a doctor at any time1 Mr. LITl'LEOANCE. No; he did not have no doctor because he was just a poor man. Senator FRAZIER. He was not able to get a doctor¥ Senator WHEELER. Did not the agency d[...]ere when they were there. I heard it was more of a county affair than anything else, because the ma[...]hat 1nyself. Mr. SN·YDER. Did Mrs. Clark have a home there1 Mr. L1Tl'LE0ANCE, Yes, sir; she had a ho1ne on her father's and mother's· allo[...] |
| [...]y help fro1n any source! ?iir. L1TTLEDANCE. I a1n having a little help fro1n my father. Senator THOMAS.[...]rented 1 Mr. L1T1°LEDANCE. No, sir; it is in a little place where they can not rent. |
| [...]co1npany~ Senator 'l'HOlltAS. I s it true that a number of these Indians have sold their land in o[...]sir. Senator 'l'Ho1>1As. Does that account for a good many of the sales-the Indians get hung-ry an[...]E. yes, sir. Sehator ' WHEELER. Have you heard a general complaint about this farmer not going_ ou[...]· SENATOR THOMAS. Whether it is a Kinv or what kind of an Indian 1 Mr. LITrLEDAN[...]ernment allowed the1n to sell Iancl ; gave the,n a patent in fee, whether they were educated[...] |
| [...]there on. I noticed when I went to ,school-I had a seventh-grade education. That is all' I had. I[...]or cholera¥ 1\1r. Lrrru:oANCE. Yes, sir; had a farmer living next to me and I vaccinated the1n,[...]ow. Senator 1'HOllrAs. You are learning quite a. good deal here lately 1 Mr. LtTrLEDA NCE. Ye[...]ping me; whnt little I have learned has helped me a lot; not 1nuch. Senator " rHEELER. \Vliat lit[...]ou see no way to get by and get ahead and to make a living except to work on that land with the best[...]three and one-half yeiirs I have not recommended a patent. Senator FRAZIER. Has any been i[...] |
| [...]d.) ELLiorr IC1:&rBALL was thereupon called as a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testif[...]Senator FRAZU:R. I thought you said this was not a patent in fee Indian 1 Mr. SNYDEII. I did not[...]t some land. Mr. SNYDER. I did not know he had a patent. · Senator FnAZJER. You are l[...]1 l\fr. KIMBALL. I do not know. I've got about a hundred chickens. Senator FHA.ZIER. What do you raise on the farm 1 Mr. KIMBALL. We raise corn-and a little ~arden stuff. Senator FRAZIER. Hns your[...]you get from the rentt l\{r. ICJ~lB~LI,. $120 a year.[...] |
| [...]STATES Senator FRAztER. Outside of the $120 a year the rest of your· Jiving |
| [...],. , Senator FRAZIER. You need a larger cemetery¥ Mrs. ALLEN. Yve have not got any. It is all used up. It is in a bad place, too. It is all used up and we have not[...]hing about .t hat¥ Ml'. SNl.'DER. There _is a quarter section that belongs to the 'fon- kawa 'f[...]ny more. Mr. SNYDF.R. Is it full 1 Mrs. A.LI.EN. Yes. t1r. SNYDER. I did not know that[...]nt1 Mrs. ALLEN. I made request and asked for a reserve of 2½ acres on the extreme northwest co[...]· :(\{rs. .1\.Lt:&N. Yes sir. It is a hard matter for us poor Indians to feed our chil[...]hool because the parents are not able to provide a. lunch. I am mother to four children and my step-[...]enator FRAZIER. For clothing and food 1 Mrs. A.LI.EN. Yes, sir; a few of the mothers asked me to lay the 1natter b[...]s. ALL&'I. We get $162.50. Senator WnEELF.R. A year? Mrs. ALL.:N. Yes, sir. . · Senator Wn:&ELER. Have you a husband 1 Mrs. A.LI.EN. That is my own rental. Sena.tor FnAZ[...]ch does your husband get for his land 1 Mrs. A.LI.EN. $180. Senator FRAZIER. $180 a year 1 Mrs. Au•.:N. Yes, sir. |
| [...]INDIANS •IN UNITED. STATES Senator->FR'Azµ:aA year? 1 Senator ,vaEELER.[...]elderly 1n1u1. ,ve have been Jar1n- ing up ~ntil a year ~go. vVe sin1p,ly quit; '!'he.t ruth is•ou[...]EN. I have an old F ord car. Senator 'l'HOMAS. A touring car 1 ?.£rs. ALL•;N. I have to have[...]How far do you live from school? ~Irs. ALLllN. A mile and a half¥ Senator 'l'uoMAS. On dirt road? ?,fr[...].. ?,£rs. ALLEN. Oh, yes ; we have a time of it, but ,ve have to get the childr[...] |
| [...]1 because if they ntiss two da:r,s we have to get a _docto1·'s certificate and _I can not keep the1n[...]oes that-the teacher? Mrs. ALLEN. They sent us a warning here about ii week or ten days ago they w[...]THOMAS, I f you did not have food or clothing for a week-- Mrs. A.LLEN, I expect I ,vould have to get it done throu[...]NYDER. No, sir. Senator l<'nAZlER, Do you have a day school inspector? Mr. SNYDER. Yes, sir .[...]'. ~ 7ell, all I got to say is the 'l'onkawas and a nu1nber of people here are in favor of the agency[...]d keep on being our agent. I understood there is a. rumor going around the rescrvati.on he is goin" to be transferred. He has been a iood agent and he has taugfit us thrift.[...] |
| [...]nator W1-1EELER. Ho,v many acres is it1 l\frs. A.I.LEN. It has been used since the Tonkawas first[...]in there to start with. Senator WHEELER. It is a suitable place if you had sufficient ground1 · Mrs. ALLEN. No; it is in a low ,vet place. It is in a draw. . Senator "\V11EEI,ER. '!'hey "'ould not bury Major Miles in a bad pince, ,voulcl they ? i\irs. ALLEN. 'fhey did. They had to. Senatox· ,vHEELER. He is a relative of the President, is he not1 i\irs. ALL"&;~. No; he was a scout of the Indian Anny. Senator Fnazu-;n. An[...]MAS. ,vhat expression have you 1net ,vhich showed a prej uclice aganst the India.ns generally 1 l\[...]at. Several Indian women can testify to that. For a tirne the 'l'onka.w a people cut the Indians. They would not all[...] |
| [...]that Mr. Superintendent? . ~ - SNYDER. i' had a report about a foreigner ,vho had ordered so1ne of the Indians o[...]Mrs. ALLEN. Yes; sir. Mr. SNYDER, 1'hat was a hamburger joint? Mrs. ALLEN. Yes, sir. · Senator ,vm:EtER. ,Vbat is he-a Greek t Mi'S. AmN. He is a white man. He told me to my face that he want me[...]blood was 11 disgrace. Senator FRAZIER. Is he a new man there ? l\1rs. ALLEN. He might have been; I do not know much about hi1n. He has a nice place of business. Senator FRAZIER. You[...]· Senato1· WHEELER. Do you have a Govern1nent farmer out there? Mrs. ALLEN. Wel[...]nd to your farms there? l\1rs. ALLEN. He goes a.round and sees the I ndians to see how they are g[...]LER. You mean if the Goverrunent would give the1n a start, you think they would farm 1 1\1:rs. AL[...]leasin« their lands? Mr. SNYDER. It would be a mighty fine thing if ,ve had the funds.[...] |
| [...]tor 'l'MOM..i.s. If an Indian co1nes in and wants a pn.ir of shoes, you can not give it to him 1[...]tor ,VHEELER. How about your doctor? l\1rs. A.I.LEN. Our doctor is all right, only he is a little careless. So,neti,nes he just needs a little repri1nanding. I t hink otherwise he is[...]? . Mrs. ALLEN. Yes, sir. Senator PINE. A good many Indians around there 1 Mrs. 1\LLEN. ,veil, on office days t.l1ere are quitll a lot of I ndians around there. Senator WHE[...]for instance, castor oil. He was out of it for a long tiine last winter "' hen be ought to have[...]nnything · about is ca~tor oil, asperin, iodine, a.nd things like that. Senator 'fHOMAS. Do t h[...]ndians prescribe their own re1nedies1 i\1rs. A1.tt:N. Indeed they do not. Senator Fl[...] |
| [...]d I necdeCl hnn badly. He s,ud he would. He nrndc a note of it. He said t.he docto1· was not there a[...]to i;,o ho,ne after the office hours anti he left a note on t he doctor's desk. l'he doctor ca1ne ho1[...]No; I did not. l\'.fy child was awfully sick with a high fever; just as sick ns he could be, and I wa[...]day." I said, "If he don't co1ne this 111orning I a,n going to call Mr. Snyder." 'fhe doctor came ove[...]n ...1'hen the danger was passed. But he had been a.wfully sick; he laid in bed three or four weeks without takincr a-- Senator '\VHEELl:R. H ow ,nany times did th[...]sed.) ADELE DENNISON was thereupon called as a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testi[...]in on the business co1nniittee. I just have a letter I would like to present to the com1nittee[...]ted th:H it is prnctically react~·. Onee this 1~ a,,nnal>lc i t will requil·c cnreful st\Hl~r. nfte[...]. '\Vhnt is this suit1 i\ir. DENNISON. It is a snit of the I<:aw I ndians a~ainst the Gov- e1·nn1ent. It has been sta[...] |
| [...]the General .Accounting Office is really doing a very good job in that. ·[...]do all you can. Senator FnAz11,m. '!'here is a shortage of help up there. Senator THOMAS. Yo[...]Office is now looking after the past records for a long time back and submitting those to the Attor[...]ll the information that it i"s possible to get. .A.t this time you can be sure Senator Pine and mys[...]d.) CHIEF HORSE EAGLE was thereupon called as a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testi[...]id, your honors of tlie Senate committee, I have a little difficulty through things lacking among my[...]ly, the oil industry. We are handicapyed. The Pon~a Indians are suffering from want on accoun[...] |
| [...]6995 CHARLES RoY was ,!.hereupon called as a witness and, after being first duly sw·orn, test[...]nate to 1neet you here to-day and he wants to say a fe,v words. He says I swear by my ri"ht hand and inake a plea to you and I wish you ,vould go ahead andi1e[...]ses of people, old and young; they are all having a hard time. He says some of-the school children ar[...]e an Indian agent to look after my wants and also a farmer that could look after the agricultural pur[...]ey, could to instruct the boys to farm, but it is a failure because the drought has hit the country a[...]ole reason for this. -He says also that theynhave a claim in Washini:tton with the Government of the United States and I kno,v it to 6e a true claim,' and he says if there is something to[...]I HENRY Ro1n:irrs was there upon called as a witness and, after being |
| [...]realize that you, as l\{e1nbers of Congress, have a great deal to do with the passage of legislatio[...]verrunent schools? Mr. RouEnl'S. Yes, sir; I a1n, a product of the I ndiun schools . myself:[...]ay in the near future the Governrnent establish a. school that ,viii be on it pnr with the univer[...]. ~fr. Ront:m·s. They provide for a 2-year junior college course. Why do the_y not 1nake it two more vears and make it on a par with the 11nivers1t.y and do it tight. ,,re[...]proble1n. Senator THOMAS. Do you think it is a good thing for the India n to participate in at[...]lf b~lie_ve in ~xploiting the thin;. f here are a fe,v who can do 1t. 1\thletics 1s all nght. I too[...]built n1y body up; otherwise I would have been a wer,kling. I was rather fra il, understand[...] |
| [...]nishing the 11cade111ic course at Han1pton I took a 2-year business course at Haskell. Senator 'l[...], Mr.,R<iBEnTS. I sort of hold, a, sem.iexecutive position. Senatoi: 'I'HOM-'S'[...]Senator THOJ\IAS. \-Vould you reconunend that as a general course tooe provided 'in Indi'nn sch[...]MAS. Do you know of any Inclian ' school that has a business"course provided¥[...]enator, the reco1111nendn- tions have been 1nnde a nu1nber of tunes, but they say it is up to the Se[...]gress gives them nil they ask for. It gives thc1n a.Jl they ask for. |
| [...]Senator· FRAZIER. I think your statement is a little bit misleadin~. The Bureau of the Budget comes in there and gets a whirl at 1t before we get to it. Senator Tuo~[...]IER. I might say that at this last session we got a larger appropriation for-the Indian schools than[...]d an op- portunity to be h.eard and wants to make a statement in writing and irend it to the committe[...]. GENTLEMEN : Ioclosed find a list of Otoe Indian allottees to whom fee simple[...]America, plaintiff, t>. Theo Snook, Tripp County, a public corporation, and Fred Goode and J. S. Schl[...]e<! to Indians without their consent are void. A. R. Snyder, superintendent of the Otoe Indians, c[...]of the Indian's named to accept these patents was a great wrong done them, and the lands have been di[...]. '.rhat said Inspectors Ignored our requests and a few weeks Inter our patents were Issued, although |
| [...]9 never applied for, and the Indian ngcnt, George A. Hoye, . loslsted that we tnke the same, even tho[...]Is for an investigating body, necessarily making a brief visit to any parflcular tribe or agency, to[...]ects grown too wise, Instruct a monarch where his error lies,[...]furthered. ue· ls n wise investigator who, In a flying visit of n <lay or a week. cnn determine wliy n J)C'Ople, fah'ly educa[...]onal facilities nt hand, 1>erhaps owning !anus Ui'a t 'white people find it profitable to cult[...] |
| [...]ncies not wholly of their selection and deal wilb a great val'let.v of people, under widely different[...]o act nt nil for themselves, which, of course, Is a necessnry ()art of Uielt· training if they· are[...]011t1llt all nccusinr; witnesses, before ordering a transfer, demotion, or discharge. Otherwise the v[...]here, and also at other agencies, It would attord a vivid picture of the Indian ns be really I[...] |
| [...]7001 1930, l\lr. Lea\"itt Introduced a bill (H. R. 7963) to create a court of Indian clahns, but apparently no nction[...]et the main requirement-that of giving the Indian a hearing on his own ground, with a minimum or expense. or none at all, to him. In th[...]s e<1u1tnbly settle<!. '.l'he prosecuting or a suit before the Court of Ch1ims is tedious, and o[...]i11te1·est ut G per cent pe1· annum, ,,ayable a,,.,.,iaiiv. (The italics are mirie.) The $W,OOO[...]s, but the Pawnees advise me that it was $25,000, a rather large sum ror a ward to pay to com1>el bis guardh1u to fulfill bi[...]ject to bear 1.u terest until paid, In all quite a staggering surn, some $116,634 ns I figure it.[...]te.-lor and the commissioner, <:ould 11i:rcc upon a method IJ~• which this end could be nttninecl.[...]color, for the good nnd snfety of all; but given a fnlr cducntlon ancl witb a fnir nvenige of henlth, tl1e younger India[...] |
| [...]furnish It. The school Is very much in need of a new building. It bas no i;ymnnslum at the present[...]unte, seating only 50 per cent of the enrollment. A central beating plant should be provided ns the p[...]mseh·es, thus pro,·ldlng employment for them at a time when tbey arc much in need of it. Olv[...] |
| [...]By J. A. McCottUM, Presidelll. IN TIU~ IN1'l::l[...]cnoor. AT Cnu.occo, OKLA. 1'£'TlTION FOR A SPl-XllAL APPROl'BJAT'ION Ot.. $1~0,000 TO BC MADE I~OU--:.OIATELY A.VAllr |
| [...]is not llre1>roof nor modern In nuy particular. A new bnildlng could be constructed, made modern, f[...]egulations, nil of which cot1ld be over- come in a new building.[...] |
| [...]SuncoM~urrJIB OF THE CoMM1T'n:i-; ON INDIAN A1·tAu1s,[...]ors Pine and 'l'ho1nas. Also present: 1\•fr. A. A. Grorud, speeial assistant_ to the subco,n- 1n1ttee and 1\fr. Nelson A. Mnson, clerk of the con11n1ttee. Senator FRAZIER. '!'his hearing is under authority of a resolution adopted by the Unitecl States Sennte a[...]e United States. We have been in Okla.ho1na since a wee'i, ago last 1\ionday visiting various ~ronps[...]n the policy o~ the Indian acbnin.istration. I a1n going to call first Chief Rush Roberts. Chief R usu RonEn1-s was thereupon called as aa.ncl any state,nent he wishes to 1nake to the co1n1nittee as briefly as possible. It is late and we ha.ve a lot of other witnesses we ,vant to hear. Fi1·[...]trei1ties the Govern1nent pro1nisecl to build us a school and also _pro1nised to pay us 1none[...] |
| [...]the Pawnees that the Government was to furnish a school for the Indians on account of the ceding[...]States Government. 'fhey said they were to put up a school and also to pay the Pawnees some money i[...]his school ought to be enlarged because there are a lot of our Indian children that will attend this school and he said that there are a lot of our Indian children attending that schoo[...]s to say another thing here, that there are only a fe,v Indians who are holding land now. He said sometime ago the department issued patents to a number of our Indians. They came around-he has r[...]ome to him and they issued his patent. There are a lot of those people to-day who are not holding la[...]account of having children. He says since I a1n not educated I a111 still holding my lands, and the reason_why I[...]ren. He says tne taxes are so great that 1t takes a lot of money to keep up the taxes. He wishes tha[...]of these Indians? He says he knows that y_ou have a place for these paupers and poor people, but he says we never had anythint5 like that a1nong our people; that is, a pince for poor people. No,v, ne would[...] |
| [...]department or the United States Govern1nent made a ruling to extinguish the buffalo or exter1ninate[...]ettlers destroying the buffalo and the other wild a.nimals whieh the Pawnees depended upon, and on ac[...]ook after our old people; that is, by giving them a pension of some kind in order that they 1night be[...]heir old age. Senator FRAZIER. '\Vas the chief a scout for the United States _<\.rmy~ The INTERFRETER. Yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. Is he getting a pension for the :work he did for the Arn1yt The lNTERrRETER. I :un going to tell you the reason why I was a scout. He said after the Pawnees were re1noved fr[...]es. Senator FRAZIER. Ask hi1n if he is getting a pension fro,n the Government for being one'of the Indian scouts1 The INTERPRETl:R, Yes, sir; I a1n receiving a pension, but he says, it has been just a short time and he says that all of those that wer[...]eived? 'l'he INTEI!PRETER. I n1n receiving $50 a ,nonth. Senator .FRAZIER. How many of[...] |
| [...]ninst the Sioux and the Cheyennes be siiid there a re only two scouts left, he and Simon Adams, tha[...]stel· n111ssacre. Senntor FRAznm. I s Sin1on A.da1ns ulso getting a pension 1 'fhe INTEilPnETER. H e also said the[...]l<'RAzIEll. Is AJn,ns and Riding In nlso getting a pension 1 The IN·n:nPRE'l'f:R. Yes, si r ; t.hey are receiving a pension ulso. Senator FRAZIER. That is "OOd. A[...]old, either rnan 01· woman, they should receive a pension because they nre not able to work or to t[...]:RPllt:'I'f:n. H e says no; he s,tys he quit work a. long time ago. H e s,iid I a,n sickly no\\• and 111y eyesight bothers rne. H[...]at it would be n nice thing if thev could receive a. pension of so 1nuch a n1onth. That could be deter1ninecl. That i[...] |
| [...]he conunissioner wrote to l\'.[r. Snyder to rnake a report of alf t hose India.n~ who_ have received patent~; so we ,~•ent over and there was a. quest1onna1re prepared. So1ne of the 9.uest1ons[...]received patents under protest ; what they called a forced patent by that cornpetency conuuittee.[...]'l'he INTJ:nPRETJ:m. Yes, sir; ~Ir. Roberts has a, lette1· here. '!'his is the lett,w that ,ve re[...]you t.lie exact nurnber, but .he sitys there are a lot of then\ ,vho went to the oflice and received[...]been issued? i\1r. SNYDER- '\\re were issued a Ust. '\\re were asked to scatter 1i circular of t[...]re frorn the1n. I think that has hiippenecl about a yea r ago. That is 1ny recoJlection. 'l'hey iir[...]ther. He says I asked them if we could 11ot have a talk while we ,vere altogether there in th[...] |
| [...]Mr. Roberts get his patent; did they give hiin a p_atent at that time? The lNTERPRfm:n. ,Vhil[...]e IN'l'ERPRETER. He says yes. He says they issued a patent. He said he went there to the office aft[...]u kno,v ho,v many of those Indians who received a patent in fee still owns their own land 1[...] |
| [...]mpetency oc1nmission ,vas here ,vas l\fr. Roberts aa.wnee, Okla., dated Nove1nber 1, 1928: Circular[...]missioner of Indian Affairs I am directed to make a 1·cport of nil lncllans under this jurisdiction to whom a pntent In fee has beeu Issue<! prior to the year[...]is £ro111 the department. I t is signed by !\fr. A. R. Snyder. Senator 'l'uo?-rAs. )Vhy not put t[...]P4\\' Nf.:.: INOIAX A.0(,::-i'C\',[...]rt of all Indians under this jurisdlcllon to whom a patent in fee bas been Issued prior to u,e year 1[...]will sprend tbls news to everyone that rece!l·ed a tee-simple patent to their nllotmcmt or In[...] |
| [...]lly, A. R. SNYDER, Superinten1le11t. l\ir. GRORU[...]l:TER. No; it is not encu1nbered in nny wny. |
| [...]TitollrAs. ,vell, that 1s of record. lil ow, how a.bout the other two? 'l'he IN·1·1::RPRETER. I think that they are a.II recorded here, beca use I have what they citll[...]he tax rolls. Senator FRA,\JER. I think that is a.II. The I NTERPRETER. It 1night be s01nebody el[...]ent me to speak n solemn and serious word to you, a word that n1ei1ns more to some of you tbnn any ot[...]l!UUC.) (Inditin nnme) . I hnnd you a bow and nu 11rrow. '.1.'11ke this bow and shoot t[...]. llut you may keep thnt nrrow, It will be to you a symbol of your noble race 1111d of the 1>ride you[...]t the sweat of his brow. Only by work do we gain a right to the hrntl or to the enjoyment of[...] |
| [...].as the Presldeut has said that I nm worthy to be a citizen ot the United States, I , now protnise t[...]nd my heart to the doing ot all that will make me a true Americ,111 citizen." And now beneath thi[...]nnme) is an American citi- zen.") li'or women: A.Ilic Fox Duncan (white name). Take in your han'd[...]t is the flag of freedom, the flag-of free 111en, a l1umlred mi.Ilion free men and womep of whom you are now one. That flag has a reque.s t to make of you, - - (white name), .that[...]as the President has said that I am "\orthy to be a citizen of the United States, I now promise to th[...]ud my heart to the doing of nil that wlll make me a true American citizen.'' And now beneath this[...].") VVII,LIA~r MATHEWS was thereupon called as a "(itness and, after being first duly sworn, test[...]erpreter) as follows: Senator FRAZIER. You are a member of the senior council of the Pawnees1 T[...]Senator FnAimn. T ell him to make his statement a short state- ment. The 1'NTERPRETEn. I see you[...]ome of us are pretty hard up. He says that the A,nerican Indian was on this continent to roam here[...]vays are different from yoi~rs. He says you speak a different lan,,.uage and I also speak a different language also. He says I do not Y,no,v[...]want to tell you, and I want you to hel p 1ne ns a tribe. He says I can no.t go anywhel'e else. H e[...]" Senator FRAZIER. Was he given a pate1,1t in fee1 .. The I[...] |
| [...]es it pretty hard on us fellows who only received a s1nall share of land, 80 acres. 1-Ie says we can[...]eceived 160 acres, he says, because they can sell a part of that lnnd and make the use of that money[...]m anyway; you ought to continue to look after him a long time. Senator PINE. Does he pay taxes1[...]have lost their land, he says, I know that it is a pretty har tlung to pay these taxes. He says I am[...]ld like for you to help us out on that in getting a permanent homestead anywav. We cnn not go anywher[...]cused.) HENRY SHOOTER ,vas thereupon called as a witness, nnd, after being first duly sworn, testi[...]ferent stnte1nents. lie says the Indian is having a hard ti1ne to-day and this is not the place to be[...]ot going to be very long, he just ,vants to 1nake a very short state,nent. He sa.ys I an1 glad you n[...]ear where the Pawnees have ~ven the Govern- 1nent a piece of land; thnt the Pawnee Tribe of 1n[...] |
| [...]transaction. He says is t,here any record of such a thing 1 Senator Fn,1zn:11. Not that I know o[...]. 1'he INTERPRETER. Ho says there was such a. transaction rnade; so,ne kind of a transaction. He speaks of where the Pawnee Indian[...]z1ER. ,veil, there should· be tt record of it if a treaty was 1nade. 'fhe IN~•,t:1n•1urrER.[...]departinent did know they ,vould • not tell us a bout it. Senator FRAZIER. -I do not bhune hir[...]of the depart,nent, but I think if there is such a treaty• made that the record cnn be found.[...]. He says you n1ention .,ny narne to the1n. I, as a Pawnee, never heard anything or had any cQnunoUon[...]is, enlisting the,n us soldiers or seouts. Then, a lot of our Indians consented to help the Governrn[...]ild Indians on the western plains. He says to-day a lot of those people 01· those soldiers who helpe[...]s when you go back there, and if you do find such a transaction, we would li ke for you to write to t[...]n, he says, if that shonlcl happen to be tho case a lot of these people that you see living ba[...] |
| [...]nt1 '£he !NT.ERI'IIL'TER. Yes, he says, I a.in still talking. He says you tell the1n ,vhe[...]g and he siiid t hese people that you see in here a lot of the1n are hiird up; as n tribe we are poor. We can not do anything. Sorne of them have had a, fe,v pieces o;f land, he siiys; they just got ri[...]re is 'his horses? , vha,t has he got to do ·a11ythiJ1g· with? He says that so1ne of tbe1n[...]. The Ji,;•1·E1tPRl.'TEit. No; I a1n oul:side. I just go outside. lie says I wan[...]not _know ho,v to take c111:e of myself. Yon have a different "'ay. You ea,11 provide for yoursel[...]cused.) Senator 1'Ho~rAs. Let 1ne ask you a question, Mr. Interpreter : Do the Pn.\\•ne[...]here anyone you can go to for local advice as a t.ribe? Have you e1nployed any one?[...] |
| [...]no money? Mr. COONS. ,vell there might be just a. sn1all sum, around three or four thousands dollars. I think there ,vere some oil leases 1nade on a 10-acre tract of la.nd, and I think a little oil royalty or lease rentals fro,n the res[...]now of. GEORGE ROBERTS was thereupon called as a ,vitness and, after being first duly sworn, testi[...]e: Senator FRAZIER. By the tribe. For how long a time¥ Mr. RoBERTS. T,vo years. Senator FRAZIER. Row long have you acted as a member of the council 1 Mr. Ronf!RTS. For nearly three years. Senator FRAZIER. H ave yo~ a statement you ,vant to make to the committee in r[...]ere are several, but one of them in particular is a claim upon which the Pa.,vnees desire to realize. On September 24, 1857, the United States mnde a treaty with the Pa,vnees in the Territory of Nebr[...]y which is described in the treaty nnd to receive a tract of land 30 miles long, east and west, and 1[...]d Howard counties, surveyed 111 1873. '!'here was a resurvey ,vh1ch disclosed the fnct that the reser[...]as in realit;( only 29½ miles long, thus ,nnking a difference of 4,800 acres. 'l he Pa,vnees[...] |
| [...]·y and part of l!'ebruiiry. ,ve sa,v Mr. Connor, a Representative, and he advised u.s to sec the com[...]it would be easi<lr to present it in the fonn of a relief bill anct have Congress act upon it. I wanted to know if he ,vould make a favorable report on it. He said he would; that th[...]P1NE. 'fhat would be $6,0001 l\fr. RoaEitTS. A.t that r1ttc. Senn tor 'fHOMAS. '\\7 here is[...]n . Sen1ttor 'l':a:0111AS. Do you know the eximt character of the la[...]all. I never was up there i but they claim it is a deficiency although the land that we ceded 1s cl[...]·,. · Senator FRAZIER. A long ti1ne ago 1 l\<fr.,RonER·rs. ,vell, in[...]. ROBERTS. '£he land ,vas sold at public auction a fe,v years a.fterwards. · ·r[...] |
| [...]Senntor 'rHOMAS. Do .vonr people believe you a1·e entitled to other ju<l 0 ments ngninst the[...]ropped recently 1 Mr. RonFJlTS. Yes, sir; for a couple years, I presu1ne. Senator THOMAS. It[...]was the consideration? 1\ir. RoriERTS. $4,600 a year"in goods. Senator PINE. For how long1[...]er put up. Senator PINE. Congress has adopted a policy in recent years of pennitting Indian tribe[...]nst the Govern1nent to get through what they call a jurisdictional bill; that is, authority to sue th[...]s. They go clown to the Cour t of Claims and file a set, set up their claims against the Govenunent b[...]else they have to assert. The Court of Clai1ns is a regular court that hears the petitions and evi- d[...]s now accepted. Yo!] take your _case. It would be a lawsuit. You would have to hiive evidence. Congre[...]policy has been adopted. I would just suggest, as a 1nembe1· of the com1nittee, that your cou[...] |
| [...]F INDIANS I N UNITED STATRS 7021 pass a resolution to that effect, I can say to you that[...]o that class of legislation. l\1r. ROBERTS. I a111 glad to hear that,. I 1night ask a question, l\1r. Tho111as, since when was this pol[...]not think you wou ld h1tve any trouble in getting a bill through, if you get so1ne attorney like thos[...]o not think you would have any trouble in getting a bill adopted, just as Senator 'l'ho111as states. Mr. ROBERTS. '!'hat concludes 1ny staten1ent so far. I a111 glad to «ive it and I hope that you will do[...]IER. You never were allotted. ,vhat do you do for a livingJ Mr. RonERTS. Fanning. Senator FR[...]you now own it 1 Mr. ROBERTS. Yes, sir. It is a very s1nall share. |
| [...]he Pawnees~ . Mr. R-0»1:n'l"S. 'fhere nre quite a number, yes sir; but due to the fact this year ,vas a very hard ye~r, not only the Indians but the whit[...]enator FnAZIEll. vVhnt kind of crops did you have a yenr ago1 l\1r. R-OnEllTS. Good crops. Y enr b[...]drought nlso. · Senator F RAZIER. You had 1nore a year ngo than this year? Mr. Il-OBEll'l'S. yes[...]ed.) S-rACY H o,v,:u.·was thereupon called us a witness, and, after being first duly sworn, testi[...]o,vELL. Stacy Howell. Senator FRAZIER. You are a 1nember of the junior council ? l\{r. H o,vi::[...]west and north of Pawnee. Senator FnAzn."R. On a farm 1 Mr. Ho,vELt. Yes, sir. Senator FRAZI[...]to my mother. · Senator Ffu\ZIER. Do you bave a statement you want to make to the comn1ittee?[...]that l\1r. Snyder was to be transferred to the P a,vhuskn A"'ency. I might say I a1n speaking the sentunent of the majority of the t[...]hero n,non~ ou r Pawnee 1ndians. We have received a lot of develop1ncnt since ne has been here and ,v[...]advisor at Rjce, 1\.riz. I am ,just one of the n1a.ny Indi an boys t hat had an unfair trial in the[...]s that are out in the service, that they be given a fair cha1ice in the service. I kno,v 1nany of 1ny friends out there at Rice a1nong the Indians and also arnong the ,vhit[...] |
| [...]to the new commissioner and asked him to give 1ne a transfer. I could not stand the life I ,vas livin[...]there. The first morning I went on duty I heard a re1nark from the prin- cipal's ,vife. She told th[...]k. All right then. I kne,v I was· going to live a•hard life, and I also knew then they were not[...]ir. Senator FRAZIER. You said you applied for a transfer 1 Mr. H o,vELL. Yes sir. Senator[...]t to me. The superintendent would not recommend a transfer. · Senator F RAZIE[...]nson ,vns I had no personality; that I ,vns not a leader, and I do not remember what else. I[...] |
| [...]ent only eight or nine months in tht service as a whole? . Mr: Ho,vELL. Yes, sir. Senator[...]vELL. Well, I finished high school here and I had a year of college in Indiana. Senator PINE.[...]h business college at Chillicothe; I had to have a bookkeeping education. I spent three weeks in Kansas City and had n~y name in all the e1nploy1n~nt a~encies there and could not get any Job and othe1[...]on1e \\•ork there? Mi·. Ho,vELL. I worked a little bit up at the ICaw A~ency as clerk in charge. That ,vas just a te1nporary position. I tlnnk I ,vorked there a month . . Senator PINE. Ho,v did you get along[...]? . ?!fr. 1-IowELL. I lost it in a gun accident. I was out duck hunting. Senator PINE. You are not a soldier, are you? ?!fr. HowELL. No, sir.[...]e of the boys and direct their athletics and keep a record of all the stucitlnts there. ·[...]ad good order there, and it might have been I was a li ttle too easy ,vith thc1n. Senator P[...] |
| [...]t that he gave the girls ,vas to n1ake them carry a log or a small stick, or something like that around the ca[...]ear him called that. Senator FRAZIER. Ho,v old a man is he1 Mr. Ho,VEr..L. I should judge -him to be about 45. Senator Tno111As. How large a log ,vould the girls be required to carry around the campus1 Mr. l-Io,vELL. '\Vhen I seen it it was not a very large log, it was, I i1nagine, about 3 feet[...]in dia1neter. Senator 'THOllIAS. What kind of a logi Mr. I-Io,vELL. It was so1ne kind of a post. Senator FRAZIFll. A stick of cord " 'ood 1 l\1r. Ho,vELL. Just a post. · Senator THOl\tAS. Was[...]nd of treatment. Senator 'THOllIAS. ,ivas that a fonn. of punish1nent 1 Mr. Ho,vELL. I guess it[...]ishment i l\1r. l-Io,vELL. Yes, sir; there was a crowd of outside people that stood out at the fen[...]und. Senator THOMAS. vVould they have to ,valk a.round from place to place 1 Mr. Ho,vELI,. 'They walked in a square. They walked around down by the fence; then back up to the building and just made a square. Senator Tnoll!AS. What other fo[...] |
| [...]At the time that I entered the service there was a notice came out, or a circular came. out, per1nitting us to _lock theni[...]"'ELI,. No; ,ve never had any jail or any kind of a roo1n to lock the1n up in. Senator FRAZIER.[...]ike ~oin~ down to the store or staying ho1ne from a show, or something hke tnat. That is about the o[...]d I talked to them. Senator FRAZIER. Sort of a demerit system? Mr. H oWELL. Yes, sir. S[...]Ho,vELL. 1Vell, I do not know. '.rhere were quite a nu1nber of the1n. Senator FRAZIER. Why was i[...]om their ,vork. I kno,v of one boy there that had a fnthex· that ,vas very old; he ,vas blind. This[...]ed all the time. His father \\•as blind. He was a jud~e there at the office of the l\iojave Apaches and he received $3 a niontn pay for being judge. Senator F n[...] |
| [...]By force? Mr. HoWELL. Yes, sir; it was not but a few days that he left n,nd we never did hear of h[...]way because his father needed him. He ,vas making a living for him. 1'his boy was a good ,vorker and he was almost beyond.-- Senat[...]e girls run away? Mr. H OWELL. Yes, sir; quite a number. Senator FRAZIER. Did they get the1n ba[...]re up to about 22 maybe. Senator PINE. That is a wild country, is it not 1 ... Mr.[...]"\Vhnt would be your opinion as to the number in a year? · Senator 1.<'nAZIER. During the[...] |
| [...]n spent in the wh ite schools. I was educated in a ,vliite school; only the first three years years of my schooling was nt the Pawnee school; then I had a year at Haskell and about a half year at Chilocco; that is all I had at the[...]of the exact point that you 1nention. If that is a. success I think you cnn depend upon it that it ,[...]. Senator PINE. , vas it a ,vhite 1nan that took your pince ·at the Rice school? i\1r. Ho,vELL. No; he is not a ,vhite 1nan. |
| [...]e. He understands all that. He kno,vs that I had a hard ti1ne there. I can. not think of his na1ne n[...]. 1 Senator Ful zii:R. ·Did you lrnve a letter from him to that effect 1 Mr. Ho,vELL[...]excu~ed.) BEN WHITE was thereupon called as a witness and, after being first duly s,vo1:i1, te[...]r FuazIER. vVhat do you do 1 Mr. WHITE. I run a cleaning and pressing shop. Senator FRAZIER.[...]ou? 1:lr. vVnrrE. I had all the benefit that a full-blood Indian bns. Of course we all make mis[...]r lives, so I was one of those, but, of course, I a111 coming to realize that it is different now.[...]hooling have }'OU had? Mr. vVarxE. I had just a. com,non-school education; eighth grade. Sena[...]boarding schools. Senator FRAZIER. Have you a state1nent you want to 1nake to the co1nmittee i |
| [...]D STATES • Mr. WHITE. Yes; I ,vant to make a plea for the young I ndians, |
| [...]MAS. About the way you got whipped ,vhen you were a kid 1 1\.{r. WHITE. About the way I got ,vhipped ,vhen I wns a kid. And I give a f~ther'.s advice to those children, bu~ what I wa[...]here; there was no promotion. I was gettino- $'75 a month and I paid my wife's groceries and light an[...]ry much. When these other Indians came there from a forei~n tribe they were ~etting $85 a month! then raised to $125 and t11e wife employed. rhat gives the1n $200 a month to the employees ,vorking there. Senator FRAZIER. Did you ask for a transfer any place else? Mr. WHITE. No; I was staying there w·a itin~ foi· a promotion, but there was no promotion. I resigned[...]ou some more questions. ('\Titness excused.) A. R. SNYDER recalled a.s a witness and, having been previously duly s[...] |
| [...]UNITED STATES Mr. SNYDER. Yes, sir; we have a large .bus tha.t they are trans- |
| [...]TES 7033 Senator FRAZIER. Do you have a physician here1 Mr. SNYDER. Yes, sir; a contract physician. Senator FR,1.zIER. A contract physician fl'o1n to,vn here? ~Ir. SNY[...]kes re~ular exa1ninat-ions I think once or t,vice a "'eek, and then he co,nes wnenever he is called.[...]at do you mean by not very ,nuch 1 Mr. SNYDER. A small per cent. Senator FRAZIER. ':'17ell, do[...]ed what nre they qualified to do in order to make a living or a partial living? i\fr. SNYDEn. Of ,course, in[...]n schoo1s? i\{r. SNYDER. vVe do here; ,ve get a good many Indian employees. I think all of[...] |
| [...]c classified service. Senator 'l'Ho~c.1.s. A.nd ,vhat positions are not under civil service?[...]ator F11AZIER. In what positions? Mr. SNYDER. A baker over at Sequoyah. "\Ve have a young man over at the Anadarko Agency. We have a girl working 111 the office that is not in the c[...]. Senator 'l'Ho~rAs. vVhy should you not have a department at the agency, an e1nJ;>lOy1neut depar[...]t jobs and keep Jobs? Mr. SNYDER. It would be a mirrhty fine thino-. It is 1ny under- standing th[...]get jobs and hold the111 or is that something of a flitting fancy- ,vhen they get the,u they do not want them 1 1''.lr. SNYDER. No; I think ,ve have a good many boys-I think I could pick out 25 or 30[...]m, especiallv among the Pawnees. I think .that is a splendid field and open fielcf. It ,vould be a ~rent adjunct to the Indian Service to hav[...] |
| [...]e 3 or 4 here, maybe 5, whom we have been helping a little out. of the indigen_t fund to provide for them. Senator THOMAS. Would it be advisable to establish a home for that class of Indians who have no friend[...]hospital? Why should they not be taken care of in a home and given the comforts that they want and th[...]they should have? l\{r. SNYDER. I started such a thing as that in l(ansas. I bought n piece of lan[...]e Indian Office 8 oi· 10 years ago though_t such a plan was not pi·actical and discouraged it. We s[...]to these Indians who have lost their land? I have a statement here that 650 Sioux In- dians on the Pi[...]accomn1odations that the white peoJ?le would; but a sn1all institution could be provided in conjunction with the agency or in conjunctioJJ with somo school and a ho,ne constructed for them, and I think one thnt[...]ho hnd money to build good houses, and they built a. good house, but would not live in it. There was one in particular who preferred to live in a tepee a.nd preferred a certain class of food. He had money to secure ano[...]the Indillns of the class that they want llnd of a class which would not be so very expensive[...] |
| [...]TATES l\fr. SNYOER. Of course, I have been a conservative in Indian 1nnt- |
| [...]OF INDIANS IN UNITED STATES 7037 them in a general way only. In the suits there were a number of n1en fined by the Federal judge. Sen[...]. All I know about that is Mr. l\iiller submitted a petition or some form of agreement signed by a nu1nber of these Indians to the department sugges[...]I think Mr. Murray. Senator FnAzIER. Is it not a fact that the Indian Bureau tried to disco[...] |
| [...]ring your hear. lugs at this unit, I am lnclosing a list of employees at this agency. Tile person. ne[...]A. n. SNYDER, S11pe,-.11te1we11t .[...]Orndo Net salary I A. R. Snyder... ...................... Superintende[...]__ 8 I 1,800 ...• k |
| [...]9. SAMUEL H. THOMPSON was thereupon ca.lied as a witness and, after being first duly s,vorn, testi[...]ndian education. Sena.tor FRAZIER. Do you have a statement you want to make1 Mr. 1'HOMPSON. I w[...]in reference to this public-school system. I have a state1nent from the superintendent that _we had 5[...]s. . Education is sold to the I ndians, and it is a mistake to think they are going to be content wit[...]fic~now. You spoke about health. I have completed a survey. It 1s not tabulated as yet in detail, and[...]children t Mr. 'l'HQMPSON. Yes, sir; of school a"e. Senator PINE. You found all the children of[...]r ho1nes and found the conditions so I could make a e are determining a poliey fol' educational I thank you.[...]Seminoles 1 l\il'. THOMPSON. Yes, sir; I made a survey there last spring. · l\:Cr. Gno[...] |
| [...]lir. TaoMl'SON. Yes, sir; at this time or within a year. It was ,either that or expend about $250,000 for a new building. l:ly re- port will show that the s[...]anywhere from $3,000 in the bank to $100,000 in a bank. We certainly nre not supposed to SU);>• }[...]econunended, I think, 27 families that would need a little help to keep their children in the public[...]e in session I go to them an:d I J1ave not found a public school ·,vhere the teacher said they woul[...]about one-fourth of those, 20 to 25. He said in a letter to me re- .cently, every one are in schoo[...]u knO"' that they do 1 Mr. TH.OMl'SON. I had a letter frorn the Indian Office a few weeks ,ago. We talked about that ,vhe[...] |
| [...]cause they had no clothing. ?.fr. 'rHOMPSON. I a1n sure there is some money, but I will investi- g[...]accurate. Senato1· THOMAS. On Sunday we made a tour ourselves and we got into a locality that nobody had ever been to. The childr[...]ut schools. Mr. 'rHOllll'SON. I ,vill give you a case in point: McCurtain County is the second lar[...]ildren of any deg~e of Indian blood. We only made a survey on one-eighth or more. His report is taken[...]oin& to disclose in the State of Oklahorna. It is a joke, more or less, out you know how Congr[...] |
| [...]N. I,et 111e say this: I happened to have been in a conference last spring for approp1·intions for t[...]nths. 1'hey felt we. ought to have $29,000,000 ns a minimiun. The Budget cut it down to about !l,'23,000JOOO. A million and a half extra did come in by special appeal throug11[...]ght we ought to hnve to do this job right, and as a matter of fact to do it right we ought to ha.v e[...]r Commissioner Rbonds. The attached papers show a very brief preliminary report of couditio11s in t[...]ss. Doctor Goodwin makes n diagnosis of the cases a11<1 reports them to Dr. Walter. S. Stevens, medic[...]e having not less than one-fourth Indlun blood. A recommendation as to what should be done lu the P[...]iction to take care of the children properly over a period of years .will be made late,·. but[...] |
| [...]lVashit1gt<m, D. 0 : DEAR Sm: I beg to submit a preliminary report on tbe Pawnee jurlsdlctiou in[...]whom 18 have both parents dead. I attach herewith a table giving not only the statistics on families by tribes covered in this jurisdiction but also a recapitu• tation. Thinking it might be of furth[...]w beh>g cared for either in our Indian schools or a mission school. The family life of the Poncns is[...]many of the homes and found some of them without a ny article of furniture wbatsovei· in the room[...]establish more firmly the dole system and that If a certain amount, say $3 to $5 a week, should be given these families otbe1· Indi[...]arge the plant at the Pt1wnce Indi:111 School In a small way. I do not belie,·e Uie capacity[...] |
| [...]could be done by an appropriation of $40,000 for a builclln;; to be built out of native stone In t[...]rooms, n small audltol'lum to sent about 300, and a small gym- nasium. Superintendent Snyder thinks,[...]native stone In open mnrket, thnt he could erect a school building under tlte conditions above ment[...]mum of $2o,OOO in the erection of the hospital at a cost of $92,500. Dr. ,vnlte1· S. Stevens thinks[...]n addition to the $40,000 there would need to be a sum of about $5,000 to convert t11e present school building Into dormitories a.nd to equip them. Then a central beating plant to cost $15,000 Is badly ne[...]dition to dormitory spnce for the girls, there Is a dining 1·oom nccommo<111t- lng now 217 children[...]years old and has the beginners nnd fourth grades a nd a small, poorly lighted, chapel seating 150. The c[...]This building, In mY opinion, should be made Into a dining room u.n der the bulldlng plan above sugg[...]d is In no way satisfactory. Another bulldlug has a family living in it, a. primary recitation room therein, and a guest room. It Is an old building. All of these[...]in this school Inst ~-car only one fnlled to make a passini; grade. City Superintendent Otto C. L11C)[...]Uiis. I might also suggest that It mli;ht not be a bad idea to pince our teaching at the Iudino scho[...]tinuing tbe h1,mc life is much more desirable, if a prncticnl way can be found to ndmlnlste,· It; |
| [...]munity In erecting an addition to the building at a cost of about $1,:500 or erecting a new school building In another part of this schoo[...]would keep these children In the public school. A copy of this revort Is being sent to Superintendent A. R. Snyder, Pawnee Indian Agency, Pawnee, Okla. A more extended report will be given when there Is[...]1tcaH011. M. L. FAG.IN was thereupon called as a, ,vitness, and, after being first duly sworn, testified a,s follows: Senator FRAZIER. Your name! Mr.[...]ed in that capacity? Mr. FAGIN. Seven_~ears or a little more. Seri!ltor FRAZIER: !;[ere[...] |
| [...]ss up, there. I have had sorne of them sow wheat a11g so•uie of the1n raise ·c!)rn this year. l\f[...]l, I make an average of about 10 lroip.es visited a week. . .[...].. Senator Tuoli!AS. '\V.hat do you call a visit? Speak up loud ·now so we crin· unde1-st[...]some by .the reimbursable plan. · Senator T:a:OMAS. '\Vhat counties do you operate in? .[...] |
| [...]Have you actually found any Indians at ,vor,k on a hster1 . .[...]e buying '.o f•1their .seed.corn, help them get a gQod grade of seed corn, go out and help the1n p[...]. , ; . Senator FRAZIER. .You 1nean four days a week 1 Mr. FAGIN. Four days a week. .[...]not harclly ,any of them .far1ning, but we have a.bout 30 farming now. Senator THOJIIAS.[...] |
| [...]n what there is? Senator TI10MAS. As many as a hundred? Mr. FAGIN. Yes; 1nore than that.[...]Mr. FAGIN. Yes, sir. Senator TuoM:AS. Make a living? Mr. FAGIN. Yes, sir. Senator THOM[...]lp I can give them then is to tell the1n to make a garden. Senator THOMAS. So your work with 120 families is reduced pretty much to advising them to make a garden 1 Mr. FAGIN. Outside of the 32 familie[...]m. One woman, as I recall, said you had delivered a check to her but had not advised her in connec- tion with far1ning operations, althouih she lives on a farm. Another man that the superintendent had cal[...]you had never been on his place, although he was a £ar1ner; and another man told us that he ,vas a farmer; that he had lost his hogs from cholera; t[...]· • l\fr. FAGIN. ,veil, that is a mistake. I have been there. SenatOl' PI[...] |
| [...]enator THOMAS. What ren1edy did you prescribe for a mule that eats green cane. l\'Ir. FAGIN. I di[...]he cane. Senator 1'1:101\CAS. Suppose you had a mule or a horse that had gotten into green cane and gor~ed[...]S. H ave you ever taught the I ndians how to cure a mule or horse that has eaten green cane1 l\1r.[...]told him that. Senator THollrAs. You are not a veterinarian, are you 1 l\1r. FAGIN. No, sir.[...]fications have you 1 Mr. FAGIN. I have been on a farm about all my life up until I ,vent into U1e[...]FAGIN. In Kay County. Senator THOMAS. You are a native of Kay County? l\'Ir. FAGIN. Yes, sir. Senator 'fll:o:r.1A&, What are your educational qualifications 1 Are you a ~aduate out of common school¥ Mr. l'AGIN. No,[...]Yes, sir. Senator T Hol\rAs. Then you have had a short course at the A. &, l\1. College? Mr. F AGIN. Yes, sir. Sen[...]sir. Senator T HOMAS. Have you served some as a practical· fitrn1er i Mr. FAGIN. Yes, sir. |
| [...]BOMAS. You hnve done all the work that is done on a far1n yourself? ?v!r. FAGIN. Yes, sir. Senator THO~!AS. Ho,v long have you served as a field clerk or far1ner? Mr. FAGIN. A little over seven years. Senator 'firoj}!AS.[...]the 1noney proposition is li1nited. '! 'here are a lot of the1n ,vho do. not have anything to start ,vith and they can not fann ,vithout having a plow or horses. Senator 'l'I:10i}IAS. Have yo[...]hungry, have you any funds to help them, even in a s1nall ,vay? Mr. l<'AGIN. I believe that ,ve hnve a very limited amount. Senator 'l'uo~IAS. Have[...]office £or the money, and they told me t h~y had a lirnited n,nonnt for erneritency cases. Sennt[...]ne 1noney1 Mr. FAGIN. They furnislied me with a purchase order and I would go buy the groceries ,[...]at might be used-- Mr. FAGIN. I think there is a li1nited amount, a very small amount; not nearly enough to ha[...] |
| [...]cular branch of the service 1 You are fur- nished a car, are you not t Mr. FAGIN, Yes, sir. S[...]the meeting. Senator THOMAS. ,ve have 111et a good 1nany Indians who told us they had to sell[...]u1 Indian he has no right to sell it. · I have a whole roo111 f ull of furniture itnd harness now[...]fellows that purchased those off the Indains at a very low price. . |
| [...]ZIER. You have how 1nuch 1 1\fr. FAGIN. I have a set of harness, two sewing n1nchines, and a couple of dressers or bureaus or soinething that I took back nnd I have a table, and I a1n going to get back a libra1,y tnble. Senator Fru.zu:n. You sold the[...]nt has or the department has for hiring n; man as a Government fariner is to help these Indians. If t[...]e farmers on one hand that the Indians have given a recommendation to in all the investigations we have made in a dozen different States. Any further questions¥[...]xcused.) GRANT LEGHORN wns thereupon called as a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testif[...]bout 30 to 35 1niles. Senator FRAZIER. Are you a me1nber of the business council there ? 1\1r. LEGHORN. Yes, sir. Senator FnAZIE.R. Have you a stnte1nent to 1nnke representing the busin[...] |
| [...]dition; just about an average? l\1r. L EGHOnN. A.bout an !tvernge. Senntor 'l'Ho)rAS. Are any o[...]FRAZIER. Are you farming? 1'1r. LEGHORN. 'fo a certain extent. Senator FRAZIER. Are you livi[...]r fou r tirnes to see how··things are gcttino- a.Jong. Senator FRAzn:n. Did you put in a garden? Mr. Lt:GIIORN. Yes, sir. S enator[...]G1-:0RGE PrPES'rE~r "' as t,hereupon called as a wit ness ·a nd, after being first duly sworn, testifi[...] |
| [...]mm-lttee 01, India.,. Affairs, Wa..shingto,.., D. a.: , Tho members of the Otoe and Missouri '.l[...]its or something of that nature, are closed up in a ·few months. With Indians It is a common thing for it to Inst from 1 to 3 or 4 yenr[...]all(l that he should within another 30 days make a report into "'ashlngton or n list of all who had called and made ,c laims and his findings of fact and a memo,·nndum of the statements mnde by each clai[...], and that in such cnses that it be set down for a speedy hearing. Respectfully submitte<I.[...]ck Pipestem; David C. Alley; Ah·a D. Ark; Sidney J . ?.ioore; and Bert Diamond.[...]To the Se1l<,tc aonwwttcc 01, I11dia11 ilffa·i4'a, lVa,shi11gto11., D. 0.: The members of the Ot[...]he unsold allotments they were nble to subsist in a :fairly reasonflblc manner . |
| [...]the vicinity of snid Imul i tliat we have put in a yenr of exceedingly hard times nnd the coming win[...]ted States. ,ve apeal to you now to set apart a reasonable fund to be lssuecl out to us In small[...]. PIPESTEM. I want to talk on the cla.1m. We have a claiin, too. I want to talk on that. Senator THoMt,S. )Vhat is the status of your claim 1 Have you a jurisdictional bill¥ l\ft·. PIPESTEM.[...] |
| [...]l. Senator FnAZIER. Has the depai·tment made a report on the bill 1 Mr. Prri:srmt. Yes, sir.[...]ESTEM. Yes, sir. Senator 'l'HOMAS. It is only a clerical matter, a routine matter, to ,Ret the bill t hrough if the[...]. Senator F1uzn:n. It 1night be ,veil to have a bill introduced in the Senate at the same time.[...]enator FnAZtEll. It is quite co1nmon to introduce a bill in the l·Iousc a.nd Senate at the sa.n)e ti1ne and then ,vhichever[...]at the D<l- part111<lnt of the Interior had made a favorable report on the bill 1 Mr. PIPESTE.M.[...].l\it·. PJPES"rEM. He said the department 1nade a very fi1vorable re- port in regard to it. Sen[...]it p1·obably an1ount to? l\{r. P11'ESTEM. I n a rough ,vay, I think something in tho neigh[...] |
| [...]nt? i\1r. PrPESTE~r. ,vell, so1ne tiine ago. I a1n not one of the forced patentees; but these boys that got a forced patent there was a cir- cular sent out.- - 1\-I r. SNYJ>F;R. The[...]nees. No"', here is another one about the surplus a.llot111ent. I think that expires in 1931. ,\7e wo[...]tten to hi1n yet. '\Ve have not been able to have a council with hin1 either. Sena.tor 'fHOMAS. H[...]oth Houses. It is custo1nar:y to take up these n1a~ters with the Congress1na.n first. A.t the smne tune your Sena.tors ,v1ll be glad to h[...]get Congress1nan Garber to prepare aud introduce a bill for you, you ,vill not have any troub[...] |
| [...]llotment. I think the ho1nestead allot- ment runs a little longer than that. Senator THOlltAS. Has[...]AZIER. In some places this extension has been for a period of 25 years, has it not i Mr. PIPESTEM.[...]ell, there is another thiner I would like to talk a.bout. We have a cemetery t.here that has 'been set aside by the G[...]that fenced in to preserve it ancl to keep it for a respectable place. Senator F11AZIEI!. H[...] |
| [...]nk it is necessary to have 40 acres re~ served as a ·cemetery for your own people 1 Mr. PIPESTEM[...]res i Mr. P1PESTE11r. They are all kind of in a group. Senator I•'RAZIER. You could probably fence a smaller amount, 10 -0r 15 acres, or ,vhatever is[...]subagent at any ti.Jnei 11r. Pn•ESTE~t. I a1n a farmer. Sena.tor 1'Ho~rAS. How ,far do you l[...]p you "'ork the,n out. I s there nny con1pla1nt a1nong you Indians here against the farmer there-th[...]h you 1 i)1r. PIPES-rE11r. W e think ,ve got a good farmer. Senator ToolltAS, You have got a tood farmer. You are lucky; be is a JOOd man. What is his na1ne 1 iVIr. .t"IPESTI:Jllr. John Dunham. Senator PINE. I s he a white man or an I ndian? l\<Ir. PIPESJ:EM. He is a white man. .[...] |
| [...]· Senator FRAZIER. I am o-lad to hear he is a good ·man. If he falls down on the job, do not[...]S enator FRAZIER. Sometimes; of course, he has a lot of territory to cove1· and he may be out so[...]to the office? ~Ir. PIPES1'Elr. Y ~sir; he is a11 right ,vith me. Senator THOMAS. JJoes he fur[...]along that line. · Senator FRAZIER. He just has a supply at his office there? Mr. PIPESTEj\I. Ye[...]. Any other complaint or suggestion you have to n1a.ke1 l\fr. Pll'ESTEM. No; that is all. (Witness excused.) BERT Dr,\l\lOND was thereupon called as a. wilness, and after being first duly s,vorn, test[...], sir. Senator lfnAZIEll. Do you want to n1ake a st11te1nent? ?\fr. DIAl\[OND. y cs, sir[...] |
| [...]RPRETER. Y:es; at that t1n1e iir. Diamond's ,vife a.Uot1nent " 'as sold. I t ,vas sold and divided in[...]ed to the boy's crecht m the office under George .A. Huyo. Then he went to Huyo shortly after the s,i[...]1nonev and all of that could be allotted to build a house; the accu1nulatcd ·inco,ne fro1n these oil[...]unn1lated money. He asked l\lir. I-l uyo to build a house for that boy but h:fr. Iluyo told him there[...].l lease money co1nes in the neighborhood of $200 a yenr; the oil lease 1no11ey he said he did not kn[...];nPnl:rER. I:Ie did go to vVichita and stay there a few days and then came ho1ne and then got 1narrie[...]any money at that ti1ne i\1r. George liuyo draws a check and the boy signs, but there ,vas no nn1ount of 1noney specifi~cl and the check itself is a blank check; then i\'lr. Jluyo takes thein; then[...]1¥ell, he 8!lys all he kno,vs is the boy bought a ca1· and the rest of the funds, why he sa[...] |
| [...]NITED STATES Senator FRAZIER. Well, this is a statement of William Diamond. |
| [...]did not include any money for this boy. So I made a transcript of these records. I 1nade that fol· M[...]he entire balance. Senator FRAZIER. It is just a staten1ent by Mr. William Diamond itself. Mr.[...]yo's account was balanced¥ Mr. SNYDER. It was a.II closed; all checked out. Senator FRAZIER. ,[...]n~ 1Ir. SNxor-R. The account " 'as closed. ;\s a matter of fact all the Tonkawas, the Otoes, Ponca[...]ior to 1ny coining here s01neti1ne. I do not have a copy of the ledger here. Senntot· THOMAS. ,~r[...]actory theatment? Mr. SNYDER. ,velll there are a ntnnber o-f those things t hat have come u[...] |
| [...]Senator F1uzrrn. Furnish the con11nittee with a copy of the account Any other staternent 1 T[...]. Superintendent, suppose the boy was under age, a 1ninor, how would the check be hanclled then 1 . 1\-Ir. SNYDER. In sn1all a1nounts; the department authorizes the pay- ment[...]re ages, 14, 15, 18, 20, or 21; but, ordinarily, a 1ninor check should be drawn to the guardian. Senator FRAZIER. A $500 check fo1· a Ford car; how about that 1 l\'[1·. S:-iYorn.[...]arily it ,vould not be permissible. I never drew a check of that kind for a 1ninor. Senator FRAZIER. If you will send us a copy of the account in 'this case we will look i[...]TERPRE'rER. 1-Ie says he likes to talk about this a little bit. 'rhe ,vashhorn field used to be his[...].t that tin1e i\1r. Dia1nond says he drink quite a bit, drunk all the time. Now he s,tys one ti1ne[...]nking and l\'fr. Stanion sent out at. that tin1c a l\1r. Pinkstaff ancl he took his cnr and hunted l[...]he says; he was drun k. 1-Ie signed son1e kind of a paper; some kind of a land-sale paper, and it was a sale of this allohnent, a patent. }le sa:ys he_did not kno,v \\•hat he wa[...]says, when he was sober he find out he signed up a patent fee and right shortly after that he says 1\-Ir. 1\-Iiller wrote a letter, or 1Ir. 1\-Iiller ca1ne down to see hitn,[...]nch. ?!:Ir. l\filler told hin1 he learned he got a pn tent and ,vants to buy his land and 1nake hi1[...]ceive the patent. So the " 101" people gnve hi111 a ca.rand that is all the result.she got out of hi[...]r was worth. I-le says he bot1'.'ht t he cnr for a thousand dollars or s01nething like that.[...] |
| [...]s, ~nd_then he is throui,;h. He says his boy o-ot a piece of land and that 1s lus land and he give it[...]one or the line stone has been moved and it takes a.way about 20 ncres of the boy's lnnd. Senn tor[...]inn or any white person who ,vants to ,vrite out a state1nent and send it to the co1n- 1nittee iit[...]d to consider it and place it in . our record as a part of the hearing if thnt is done within the next couple of ,veeks. (.A t 12.02 o'clock a. 1n. the co1nmittee ndjou rned.)[...]uest of youl' committee, I nm iuclosiug hel'ewith a trnn:script of the bank nccount of \Villlnm Diamo[...]s close<! on May 20, 1927, by former Supt. George A. Hoyo. You will note that this was one month nnd[...]A. R . SNYDER, S11peri,.tendcnt •[...] |
| [...]'rraMcript of the bank.a.:count of lViUiam Diamond, ·Hed kock, Okla. D[...]Sec. 13 A, tuition.[...] |
| [...]Dr. R. AAa.nd ad\'a.JlOO roy- 1[...] |
| [...]SOO. 00 ..... a • • • • Aug. 10, 1925,, rtvm expen[...] |
| [...]········~ A. D. Culbertson. . •••••.•. ,[...] |
| [...]3a;99 ····-- ----- ----------------- Hammo[...]Soo, 13a. clothing.[...]~ Books turned over to A. R. Snrder, superintendent, JuJy 11 1927;[...] |
| [...]e, Okla. The subcommittee met at 10.30 o'clock a. m., the Hon. Lynn J. Frazier (chairman) presidin[...]enators Pine and Thomas. Also present: l'.lir. A. A. Grorucli special assistant to the subcon1- mittee, and Mr. Nelson A. Mason, c erk of the committee. Senator FRAin:[...]adopted by the United States Senate authorizin,. a co1nmittee of that oocly to hold investigations o[...]am goint; to call the superintendent first to get a general outline of the s1tuat1on here .. CHARLES EGGERS was thereupon called as a witness, and, after being first duly sworn, testi[...]Septemoer 1, 1930. Senator FRAZIER. How large a territory do you have under your jurisdiction¥[...]anadian River to the Cimarron River on the north, a distance of approximately 125 n1iles, and a t\)rritory covering portions of 5 or 6 counties,[...]y. Mr. EGGEllS. Fi've. Senator Fn;1.zn:n. N a1ne them, please. l\1r. EGGF.RS. 'fhe Sha,vnees, Kickapoos, the Pottawaton1ies, the Sac and Fox, and the Iowas. Senn tor FnAZIE[...] |
| [...]nees, 589 ; l{ickapoos, 206; Pottawatomies, 800; Sac a.nd Fox, 706; Iowas, 101;. or a total resident population of 2,402. Sena or[...]of distress du1·ing this present winter. J ust a moment and I can give you a financial staten1ent. During the past fiscal[...]this jurisdiction to $660,476. That was the total a1nount. There was on hand at this agency on June 3[...]year ? l\fr. EGGERS. I can get that. The total a1nount of disburse1nents during the fiscal year en[...]1 l\{r. EGGERS. There are very fe,v. We 1nade a very close survey of that and we find only a fe,v that we believe will need assistance.[...] |
| [...]t line~ Mr. EGGERS. vVe have at present tin1e a sn1aU a1nount -0f 1noney, ap- pr:oximately $500, that hns[...]ther funds that would approxilnate $500, and here a short tilne ago we requested the Indian Office to[...]lun·e you under your control1 Mr. EGGERS. I a1n rather new in this jurisdiction. Senttto.r[...]t to you. The total number of agricultural leases a1nono- the .::,hawnees-s-- Senator ffa:OMAS. I[...]ty hard to tell. Senator THOMAS. Have you had a good 1nnny co1ne in and 1nake inquiry about the 1[...]Rs. Some of the1n transfer their lenses right now a-nd sell out. They get somebody else to take the l[...]have 1nuch tr~uble in collecting inoney fron1 the a.gricultural lenses, or are you going to hn[...] |
| [...]it eventually; but, of course, we all !mow when a case goes into the United States court it is frequently a slow process. Senator Tao:r.rAs. In the even[...]the money. To-morrow or next day we will get into a section wl1ere that is the inn.in problem. Over t[...]can not advance the money because the lessees, as a rule, a.re b91-rowe!l to the limit and the bondsmen arc o[...]dition as the lessee. They can not pay the money, a.nd suits will avail nothing in many cases.[...] |
| [...]I ndians in your j,u risdiction't Mr, EGGERS. A few; a very few. Senator THOMAS. H ow much money woul[...]Mr. E.GGERS. Well, that includes the others. Just a moment. I can get you the largest account we have. Senator T:a:oMA.s. I do not care for the name of the individu[...]ve think we have it pretty ,vell in hand. We have a school man here who handles that and we will get[...]eut schools. Seui.tor, FRAZIER. Has there been a survey made here yet to deter- mine how 1n1tny of[...]all ready for you. Senator FRAZIER. We can get a report fro1n him and put it in the- record[...] |
| [...]IN" UNITED STATES Senator FRAZIER. Y011 have a. liospital located, here1 1• ,, |
| [...]¥ Mr. EGGERS. Two of then1 bave been here for a number of years. Senator THOM'AS. What· are t[...]heir <1uties are varied. Senator FRAZIER. They a.re the subagent in the district they are located in? 1\{r. EGGERS. Yes; they do a great deal subngent work. Sena.tor .THO~IAS. D[...]l, not as much as they should have. They do quite a little. Senator T HOMAS. Is it not a fact that these farrners are rather 1nisna.n1ed;[...]being called farmers they should be called field a nents or field clerks? 1\1r.1!3GGERS. Yes, sir[...]actually· , Senator THOMAS. Is it not a fact they do not have tirne to visit the Indians as a general proposition only whon they have business[...]y as to wha.t they do? Mr. EooERS. They submit a report covering each dny's work. Senator THOMA[...]of it. Is there 1nuch of it? 1\{r. EGGERS. Oh, a considerable mnount of it; a considerable nrnount of that. Sen,itor 1'HOM~S[...]ve no contact with the far111ers and do not 1010w a think about t he activi- ties of the fanne[...] |
| [...]IANS IN UNITED STATES l\fr. EGGERS. We have a ,private in addition to him; that is just a |
| [...]ason for paying one of the clerks here out of the Sac and Fox fund 1 Mr. EooER. No; I can not. That is a condition that I found when I came here. vVhy tha[...]the office. It has been clone-I think it has been a. ntnn- ber of years that has been done. Senator PINE. I t is a hangover from the time ,vhen they had so1ne funds? Mr. EGGER. Yes, sir. Senato1· PINE. And the SacSac a.nd Fox funds are practically exhausted 1 l\{r.[...]s, sir; they have not very much n1oney; they have a. little, but not very 1nuch. l\ir. PHIFER. .i\t one tiine there was an agency a.t the S,1c ancl Fox. Now it is abandoned, school and agency. While it was there they had a clerk paid fro1n this fund and when the scliool a[...]on an average about 25 cents. Senator FRAZIER. A dayi Mr. EGGERS. Yes, sir. Senator FnazIER. Have you a field nurse or a field 1natron con- nected ,vith this agencyi M[...]to the Ind inns here 1 ~fr. EGGERS. No; not ns a tribal proposition. ~fr. GRORUO. .,vhat have y[...]at. I have not discovered tha t. '!'here has been a great amount of I ndian lands disposed of, • but I do not think there was any special activity a.long that line just prior to the discovery of oil. |
| [...]l\fr. EGGERS. Yes; I think there ,vould be quite a few. I could not give you the exact number. Senator 'l'uo~tAS. A great many that have had their restrictions ren1o[...]ir. Senator THOll.tAs. \Vould you say that is a considerable numbar? l\ir. EGGERS. Quite a, cons1der'able nu,nber. Senator TH011rA[...] |
| [...]a.t do they have to live on 1 ?.'.fr. EGGERS. A good many of the1n lease land and fann it; sorne[...]s prO?,erty· -- Senator 'l'HOMAS. fhat makes a white 1nan out of hi1n 1 Mr. EGGERS. And he h[...]Washington, D. C. D&a Sm : 1''or the Information ot the subcom.m[...] |
| [...]22 I SI TR18£ or SAC AND FOX l'SDIANS In resen~atlon achoo[...] |
| [...]members Tll.8B or 8AC A!"D ,ox INDIA'XS-contfouod[...]lowo. Shawnee Kickapoo Sac and Fox Pottawa-[...]0 2 |
| [...]CE:SSUS In r~rvatton schools: Cheyenne a.nd Arapaho•••••••. •••[...] |
| [...]1 28 26 Sac and Foi ... .. .... . .. ........ .... ..........[...]POOR HEALTH Jo,~a.-Shermao Dole, 17; • hnd hos()it.nl treatment.[...]hnd· whooping cougl1, not yet re<:overed. |
| [...]poo.- lrene Acheko, 6; Lena )fay Klshketon, 6. Sac an<t Fo,:.-Hermau Brown, 6; Albert Mock, 6; J ohn[...], 17 ; she, we baYe since lcarnc<l, Is conductlns a beauty parlor lit her home.[...]hth grade at home school ; assist.Ing her mother, a · widow. Catherine Foster, 18; graduated In eigh[...]tinue her school work if health permits. Has been a patient at Shawnee Indian Sanatorium and later attended a rural sehoo! where she graduated. Rnth Kenyon, 18[...]lt too fnr from high school and can uot enroll In a Government school. Raymond Madole, 18; one-sixtee[...]Sl,aumce, 01,1a., Alltil 20, 19£9. SENATE CoMMlTl'&E ON INDIAN A..FF.uns, Senate Ofl/c[...] |
| [...]i11d these copies in our rues, but I um incloslng a copy of a letter from the Indi1111 omee unde1· date of ,Tunuary 16, 1926, which, in a large measure, covers the complaint submitted by[...]s. This is in compliance with your request No. 7. A copy of the authority autbori1.ing the turning ov[...]o the Indian omce co,·ering the transaction, and a letter of Mr. Hoffman concerning the same. On she[...]A . \V. Luce, S·uperi11te11de11t.[...]of pie United Statc8 to the credit of the Sa-0 a11cl Fo:r; India,..,, Okla-ho11ra, 011 Jv11e 30, 1928 (cl08C of /!Beal year 1928) Title of fund: |
| [...]s the income inclividual Indian allotments of the Sac and Fox Tl'ibe from oil and gas production on the[...]ount. FRANK 0 . JoNES was thereupon called as a ,vitncss a)).d; after being first duly sworn, testified as f[...]r. JONES. y cs, sir. Senator FnAZIFJi. You are a 1nember of Sac and Fox?[...]ion do you hold? 1\1:r. JoNES. Chairman of the Sac and Fox business co1nmittee. Senator FnAzmn. You have a st11te1nent to 1u11ke representing your people? Mr. JoNF.S. I have 1nade a state1nent in writing and submitted it to you, an[...]y question regarding it. Senator 1'uo~rAS. How a.re your people getting along? Mr. JoNES. Not s[...]re 300 restricted allotments. I do not know bow n1a11y have been re1noved since then, but there origi- nally "' ere 500 allot1nents to the Sac and Fox Tribe, and up to about six years a[...] |
| [...]f he is not able to go out in the ,vorld and make a living for himself he is not competent. Senato[...]at rule to our general popula- tion you will have a. good many besides Indians in tliat class, would[...]Somo are in California. Senator 'l'Ho~rAs. The Sac and Fox Indians who do not have land- how do they make a Jiving1[...]tell me. I have been associated ,vith this tribe a good many years; I was born a.nd raised up ,vith the Sac a.nd Fox. and X have been chairman of this com- mit tee for six years. ,vhcnever one family has a little 1noney from oil. or from other sources. th[...]y? ~1:r. JONES. It see1ns to be; that is about a.JI they can do. Senator THOll!AS. Are they gla[...]do? Senator T no11rt1s. I s there any distress a.n1ong the Sac ancl Fox people? Jl,,fr. JONES. They tell me there is. I do not Jive here a.1.nong them, but I have a connection with them, nnd I get the information,[...]ns. Senator 'l'HOl\IAS. How long have you been a,va:y from here1 ~1:r. JONES. I have bee[...] |
| [...]hing about irregu- larity in the handling of the Sac and Fox business by George Schwably. Mr. JO[...]ere, and you should have his report. He was paid a couple thousand dollars to mnke an investigation, and we give him a. lot of testimony and a. lot of facts. Senator 'I'IIOlfAS. ,vhen ,vas[...]d in "'riting. I-le came clown here and consulted a number of the Indians. Senator 'I'MOMAS. Did[...]Senator Tno"r.As. Why by i l'>fr. JoNF.S. By a man named Suffecool, ,vho was superintendent of t[...]t the leases should be n1ade with the approval of a majority of the me1n- bers of the tribe through t[...]g called. '!'here " ' RS no council 1neeting, and a little handful of men 1net in the hotel at Stroud and a lease " 'as 1nnde. It was not made through[...] |
| [...]bidder for the lease, and they got the lease for a bonus of $5 an acre, ,vhen the Key ,v- est Oil po[...]d $5 an acre bonus when they should have received a. large1· sum 1 M1-. JONES. Yes, sir. Senator THO~rAs. vVas there a co1nplaint made against the pro- cedure followed[...]ceptions taken 1 Mr. JONES. Yes, sir; we filed a complaint in 1924 with the De- partment of the In[...]in that wtty. '£hese people have never received a cent o-f 1noney fro1n that transaction wi[...] |
| [...]ing. Mr. JONES. Yes, sir; our co1nplnint is a.gn.inst the superintendent that 1nnde the lease.[...]ir. l\1r. Cook went down to Washington and had it a.pproved. Senator THOMAS. "\V'ho is l\1r. Coo[...]t no ,vny to prove it. Senator PINE. You say a handful of people 1net Rt Stroud and made this le[...]be? l\ir. JoNES. 1Vell, there was no call for a council meeti ng. !11r.. Suffecool handled it hil[...]tNE. ,vas any notice given to the meinbers of the Sac and Fox Tribe of this meetin"'? Mr. JoNES. No[...]did not receive any. • Senato~· T:ao)IAS. Wei~ a notice· might be given and they might not[...] |
| [...]flico kne,v where I wns. Senator PINE. "\Vns a protest filed with the agency or the Secre- ary[...]s on air- ships. 'fhey had no authority to mak() a lea$() in the nan1e of the tribe. Senator PI[...]. No, si1·. Senator PINE. How many dollars of Saca large a1nount of 1uoney building buildings and ,ve[...] |
| [...]· Senato1· FRAZIEH. You said son1ethin~about a £armer by the name' of Collms working _among the[...]1\-Ir. Eggers, the charges ,nade by these people a~ainst A. B. Collins, district farmeri Mr. EooEns. No,[...]against the farmer 1 l\1r. J ON:e.s. They had a resolution there that "'as passed at our council[...]Senator THOJ.\lAS. I-Io"' do you kno,v that to be a fact 1 l\1r. JONES. I have the letter f[...] |
| [...]. Yes, sir. Senator Tuo~1As. What has been done a.bout the matter by you 1 l\{r.·EoGEllS. As soo[...]me ,vith them. I received none so I wrote to him a. second time and told him that if he had any comp[...]have them, something I could hitch onto in making a.n investigation. Senator TnoMAS. Have you got c[...]upon my own hook. Senator Tuo~tAS. Did you make a report 1 Mr. EGoERs. I made a. report to the commissioner. Senator THO]\tAs. Ha.ve you got a copy of the report 1 Mr. EGGERS. yes, sir. Se[...]put it in the record. Senator FnAzren. Here is a letter from Commissioner Rhoads under dnte of Aug[...]e is made to thnt part or your letter rclntlve to A. B. Collins, farmer, at the Shawnee .Agency, wbo[...]ly, because I 11m not here. The only ti1ne I have a chance to come in contact with the Indi an[...] |
| [...]. ,¥hat does he do, basing it upon your ·inforn1a- tion if anythin<>¥ Mr. JoNf;s. ?ou n1ean "[...]rs came here t he lsl; of September, and I called a meeting here for the 6th of Septe1nber because t[...]e the business comrnittee. We called the ,neeting a·ny- way, ana' 1'1'.Cr. Eg~ers attended t.he n1ee[...]d-to you 1 ?,fr. JONES. H e said he would call a 1neeting ,vhen he got around to it, when he got r[...],viii show you his letter on that. 1'hen I called a council.- - Senator Trro?.rAs. P roduce that Jetter. Mr. Jox.ts. I called a council and business meeting here to n1eet the senatorial co1nmittee, and he sai.d he did not see a specific reason |
| [...]ANS IN UNITED STATES. 7099: for a council meeting and one thing and another, but we[...]we want to kno,v it. Senator F'nAzn:n. Here is a letter under date of Septernber 3, 1930, from the[...]om Lawrence, Kans., to Stroud, Okla., to ,11ttend a tribal council n1eetl11g on September 6, I have t[...]es. As soon as I hnve the work In band I wUl call a meeting of the Sac and Fox Tribe to be held at the Sac nnd J,'ox Agency an<! will send you the necessary[...]. The superintendent participated in it ancf made a speech, but he has never paid the expenses of tha[...]id that that was Lnbor Day and I thought that was a day ,ve would have good attendance and I changed[...]wns sent here the 1st of Septernber to give hin, a chance to get ac- 11uainted \\•ith the office,[...]hat do you base that on f .wlr. JONES. I hiive a letter here fro1n l\1r. Johnson. l-Ie is a 1ne1n- ber of our cornmittee here, stating that a 1nember of the business com- rnittee told[...] |
| [...]~ZlER. "\Vhere does he live? Mr. J ONES. He is a preacher. I-le prenchcs nrnong the Sac und Fox and Poncas. Senator FRAZIER. He does not live a1nong them? 1\ir. J ONf;s. No, sir; the church[...]or F' nAzIER. ,vhat $3,000? Mr. JONES. 'l'hese Sac and Fox people nre paying for the support of this[...]for years. That 1noney was appropriated when the Sac and Fox had money and they had an a~ency and they had their own superintendent. '!'he[...]s ,nth the Indian Office. It is not f,ii r to the Sac and Fox to pay $3,000 for the support of this age[...]he money. Senator THOMAS. I have already 1nnde a note of that proposition and if the appropriation[...]ries that again ag,1inst your tribe, I will 1nake a motion tha,t it be not tnken from your tribal fun[...]Agency, Okla., November 20. As I am Interested In a rborou;;b and sweeping investigation of U1c affairs of thf Sac and Fox Indlrins of Oklahoma, I would like to know If )' OU bnve received a re()Ort of the in,•estigaliou conducted some time ago of rc)lorted lneh'ulari· ties in the l1andl1ng of Sac an<l Fox business by George Schwabe. of Tulsa, Ok[...]re I will be represented by Rev. Orlando Johnson, a member of our Sac and Fox l;usiness committee. Other members[...] |
| [...]have been 1·umors that for- mer Sur,eri11tcndent A. \V. Lee<:b, deceased, was buying up Indian lands[...]ilcox Oil & Gus Co. of '.l'ulsn, Okla., when the Sac nnd li'ox rcservntlou was lc;1sed to Cook in 1924[...]ve all of the facts regarding it. I am attaching a brief 1wernH·ed by Attorney KCPl)lcr wiLh Attor-[...]erior Department would not reopen the case after a1J1wovi11g the lease. '.l'berc Is every reason fo[...]stioning. '.l'llere is n distriet fnrmer, Mr. A. 11. Collins, of Cushing, Okin., who bas been working a1noug the $:"l<: un<l 1•·ox Indinns for several[...]s bilve been reported to the Ind ian Ollice. The Sac and Fox Council bas from time to time passed res[...]complain If Collins bad acted honestly with them. A full and colll1>letc investi- gation shoul<l be[...]ntiou is made from Sue and Fox funds eYery year. A [)art of this money is paid to the lensing clerk,[...]s under the jurlsdictlou of this agency . Yet the Sac and '.Fox people are tile only tribe contributin[...]enty of money, wben they hnd their own agency at Sac nnd Fox, when they had plenty of work for tbe age[...]ldings were allowed to decay nud become uscless. Sac and Fox mone~· wns use,! to build some of these[...]hnlldings, but encb time the tribe bas made such a complaint that the commissioner has bad to[...] |
| [...]on which the buildin.,-s stand belongs to the Sac nnd Pox T1•ibe. Since August. 1924, when[...]ize the business committee, elected by the tribe. A council and business committee meeting wns l1el<l at the Old Sac and Fox Agency Septembel' 6 ·this :venr for the elc-ction or a new business committee, which ?.Ir. Eggers attend[...]by his particlpnt.ion In the meeting for be made a pretty speech about cooperation, etc. After the[...]tee t ransportation from Lawrence, Kans., to tile Sac and Fox Agency, claim ing he did not call the m[...]not so much the few dolhirs iuvolved but there is a principle i11vo1,,ed. The Indian has 110 rlgbts[...]ice like Mr. Eggers, who look upan the Indh1u as a ward. Every Ind ian is n human beiug and should b[...]ers was nppointed or trnnsfcrrecl. His name is J. A. Pbifer and he w,1s a candidate for the Position of superintendent of t[...]pointed because be did not get the job for it is a good berth. The locllau Office appu,·eutly did n[...]dian Office recommending tl1nt the control of the Sac and Il'ox Council be taken away f.rom the busines[...]ormation. I do know that this same i'bifer l<_ept a numbe1· of our me01bel'S from the cou ncil and e[...]t11em tbat the choir• man hnd no right to call a couucil for ti1is election. I· bave 1:cnsou to b[...]onel Hoffman while be was actlng s1111erintcndent a nd I recommend n full and complete investigation[...]buying Indinu allotments while In otlice. I bttd a wholesome respect for his hooesty and I hn[...] |
| [...]much good for the Indian. '£he sen·ice is under a very gl'ent bandicnt) as I see it in being fille[...]r- rbem. The sel'vlce needs new blood, new ideas, a more bumanitnrinn policy. '.l'be old day of the Indian agent who was a Cl'OOk and autocrat ns a rule is gone. '.l'he Indian Is taking his place a[...]l1.en. In e\'(,ry walk of life ~-ou find Indians. A distinguished member of nu Oklahoma tribe bas bec[...], Olw1irma1• Sac and Fom BU$i11C88 Oomn•iltec. '\V'ILLIA~I G. FosrF.n " 'as thereupon called as a "·itness and, afte1- bcing first duly sworn\ tes[...]'\Villi1\ln G. Foster. Senn tor FRAZIJ;R. You a.re a ,nember of t he Sac itnd Fox B(lnd 1 Mr. Fos-rEn. Yes, sir. Sen[...]FosTf;n. Sha"•nee, route 2. Senator FRAZIER..A state,nent hns been made thnt the chief clerk was[...]o,v about that 1 1\-fr. FosTER. I do not kno,v a thing about hin1 getting control of the business[...]Mr. FoST.t:R. No, sir. Senator FnAZIEn. You a.re a me,nbcr of the business co,nmittee t Mr. FoS'l[...]. Senator Fn,,zD:R. 1\1ake it brief. ,v-e have a ntunbcr of witnesses to hear. Mr. FosTi::n. '![...]gatin~ co1nn1ittee is il the s'ac and Fox Indians a.re still recognized as a trioe, I would like to get son1e report on behalf of the Sac and Fox Indi1u1s. Senator FRAZIEn. What kind o[...]fhnt is the· only thing I have in 1nind in regar'a to the school that 2(i465-31- 1•r 15-30 |
| [...]ln County. .Senator 'l'HOlllAS. Is that the Sac and Fox Agency. l\fr. Fosnm. Yes, sir.[...]strict school. Senato1· TBOllrAs. Are the Sac and Fox children in school now fairly w.ell?[...]nly $69,123 and .some odd cents .belonging to the Sac and Fox, including the $40,000 .that is held in trust by the United States Department, and about $15,000 or a little ov_er, of oil, gas, and other rentals, bel[...]of being definitely established. "\Ve still have a. nu,nber of tribal schools. Congress has not pas[...]ion shortly as to what t.he com,nittee thinks is a better policy and we are interested in/our idea[...]in bringing before this committee on .account the Sac and Fox Indians were never notified and ne[...] |
| [...]previous notice. You have no 1noney to 1naintain a school if it should be reo1'iened or reorganized.[...]he Federal Gove1·n1nent. I las your tribe passed a resolution requesting or demanding that this scho[...]l\'ES. I ,vould like to clear up this idea of the Sac and Fox having $60 000-$40,000 belongs to the children and trust fund. It does not belon~ to the tribe as a ,vhole. 1'here is only about $15,000 -Or $16,000[...]Mr. JoNES. Yes. Senator PINE. I-Io"' 1nany Sac and F ox children attend Indian schools outside t[...]k there are five up there. Senator PINE. Five Sac and !?ox children attending Haskell 1 1Y1r. J[...]ice. , Senator PINE. A1·e t here any attending any other school 1 M[...]. Senator FnAzll:R. You do not live among the Sac and Fox eitheri Mr. FosTER. I go over there.[...]do not kno,v about the complaints that are made a"ainst this farmer? J\fr. Pos·r£B. No[...] |
| [...]N UNITED STATES Senator PINE. You Ii ,,e on a farrn, do you? |
| [...]S 7107 Senn tor FRAZIER. You a.r e one 'of t-he Governn1ent farmers¥ ?!fr. C[...]ll, I went in the service as constable at the old Sac and Fox Agency 20 years ago. Senator FRAZTtR.[...]ears. Senator FttAZIER. You ought to kno,v the Sac and Fox pretty well in that time. ?vir. Cor..LINS. Fairly well; yes. Senator FRAZll::R. A state1nent was m,icle here that they have put in con1plaints against you several different times, going back a num- be1· of years. Do you know anything about t[...]ite t11e English lnuguage, the lease was made for a 2-yenr period. I found this out later.[...] |
| [...]en this lease was made I tried to 1·eser,·e a smnll piu,eel of ground embracing the dwelling ho[...]t that1 11:r. CoLLINS. I wanted to reserve a little portion of his ground and we were going to build a house. He could not lease that land without the residence going with it. He said he would reserve a little place and build a house on it. Senator FRAZIER. Was there an[...]ld like to reserve it. He said, you can build a house there any t.i1ne you want. Senator FRAZIER. H e states further : I wauted a home and a small patch of ground to cultivate, but .Mr. A. B. Collins, tbe district farmer, would not a[...]He told me to make my home with Mrs. Bettie Fox, a relath·c of mine. I nlso wanted to reserve t[...]lellan. Do you ,·isit, every n11u1 in vou1· Sac and Fox reservation? l\'h·. CoLLTNS. Yes,[...]' the year 1 1\1:r. CoLLI:-IS. There is not a ~01ne but what I visit dnring the year. |
| [...]r. CoLLlNS. yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. Ho,v old a 1nan is he 1 - Mr. CoLLINS. Oh, I guess[...]of an order do you give them 1 l\{r. COLLINS. A purchase order. I make it out at home and send·[...]COLLINS. If the order is more than $50, ,ve ta.ke a bill of sale; so1netin1es the order is not delive[...], sir; it does not. Senator F RAZIER. If it is a $50 order he can take that and trade· where he p[...]. lifr. COLLINS. If 1t 1s over $50 ,ve ta ke a bill of sale of the stuff and "0 with hin1 and take a bill of sale, and that bill of sale is recorded[...]nator FRAZIE!t. Can he trade $10 at one 1nerchant a.ncl $20 at an- other, or has he got to tr[...] |
| [...]UNITED STATES M1-. CoLLINS. If they pick out a certain article they want and I |
| [...]gave your friend the high sign you had: given him a check. 1\{r. COLLINS. Did Mr. Eva.line Givens[...]not know who wrote the letter. It is- written on a typewriter. I do not sup2o~e[...]oLLJNS. I do not believe Mr. Givens could dictate a letter like that. Senator FRAZIER. Well, at le[...]LINS. Oh, I should not say never. Once in n while a- fellow 1night call up and say," I s So-and-so gettina a check?" And. I 1night say," Yes; he has ~ot a check"; but I d'o not allow the1n to come into th[...]Senator FRAZIER. I n other words, you do not r un a. collection. :1gency for these bankers or n1ercha[...]him 1 dld not get any money, but he told me tbnt a check fo1· $100 was in Mr. Colllns's office for[...]say how he knew. I wish to state further that Mr. A. B. Collins has refused to give me purchase orde1[...]se s01nebody is out of money and ,vnnts to• buy a. few things nt the store before his order comes in. Mr. COLLINS. He is a single 1na.n and has no fa1nily to look a.fter. Senn tor FnAzIEn. This 1nn.n is? 11:r . COLLINS. I ht,ve never given hi1n a. purchase order. He has- got a. lease tba.t we hold up part of his 1noney to pay[...]ney to pay the lease. Senator FRAZIER. , vhcre a 1nnn has a fam ily and he is out of 1noney and before[...] |
| [...]nd, or something like that. Senator F11Az1En. A.pparently this n1an bas been doing business with[...]o;,,r,1s. You know how the different lessees make a living nnd how they are getting along as well as[...]that allotment lensed to? ?.f1·. Co1,r,1Ns. A. fellow by the nn1ne of Porter . Sena tor 'fn[...]. ~()nn tor '1'110::,rA:'<. }Iow does he make a living? l\fr. Co1.r,1xs. Bootlegging.[...] |
| [...]Ho,v long have you known that 1 Mr. COLI.INS. A year or so; I do not know. It is just hearsay, Se[...]· Senator THOMAS. You have a good way to find out¥ l\{r. CoLLINS. I have[...]t is your salary1 l\{r. COLLINS. It is $144.75 a month. Senator FRAZIER. $144.75 a month¥ i\{r. CoLLINS. Yes, sir; gross salarv.[...]. COLLINS. It is all in the -salary I believe. A Vo1c•:. His salary is $150 a month and we keep out a retirernent figure. That is the only reduction ma[...]Senator THOMAS. Are tl)e other employees of the a<>ency that live on the ground required to have de[...]e othe1· employees too? Mr. EcOERS. Yes, sir; a clecluction is made fro1n nil of them, if they oc[...]thority would be granted, then we would not 1nnke a decluction. |
| [...]tow would call rn e and ask rne if the fellow had a check there, "' hat 11111 I to say t These fellow[...]ey. Senntor FRAzn:n. \Vhnt would you say about a policy of that kind, informing people that call up, asking "' hether the Indian has a check or not 1 .i\Ir. EGGERS. As n general pol[...]you answer itt \Vould you say no, knowing he had a check there ? Senator FnAzu:n. As I understand[...]give out information as to whether the Indian has a check or not. T he business mnn or banker who doe[...]he superintendent what answer you should rnnke rn a case of that kind; then he will refer thn[...] |
| [...]ask the superintendent and if ~e can not give you a reply, he will for- ward 1t to vVashington. He will get a reply for you, and then you will be acting in har[...]Senator FRAZIER. Of course, you would not want a banker ,vith who1n you were doing business to tel[...], however, as Senator Thomas says, you should get a ruling on it. Here is a, statement signed by Edward Rice. He says: I wi[...]d Fox Tribe, used my i;rnndfntber's allotment for a period of 31 years for a sawmill site. My gl't1ndfnther's name wns \V!IUam[...]principally cottonwood trees. He has ne~e1· paid a ny rental for bis sawmill site or for the timber[...]aid purpose. I wish to state rurtbel' tlu)t Mr. A.· B. Collins, our district farmer, brought to my[...]ones. Be charged me $6 per day for this work. Mr. A. B. Collins did not advise me what the chorges fo[...]? i\fr. Co,.1.1:-is. Yes, sir. Senator F 11A7.1t:11. I s this tho house t hut Edward Rice was[...]L11-s. Yes, si r. 8t>nator FRAZIER. I-low old a ,nan is Edward Rice 1 :\fr. Co1.1.1xs.[...] |
| [...]1'hat .is the way you do it. Could he not 1nake a <•ood job of it, put the new shingles on so the[...]1NS. Yes, absolutely; but they would have to have a spe- cial nail they use for that purpose. Senntor F 11Azn:R. It would see,n to 1ne it might be a pretty o-ood idea to teach the Indians to shingl[...]ER. ,\rould it be an casv 1nat.ter to oversee for a half hour or an hour to iet then1 started ? •[...]ht be done. The average fa1·1ne1· docs not hire a ,nan to come to shingle his house. i\ir. CoLLJ[...]any of the,n. I would not do it 1nyself. I t hink a carpenter knows how better than I do. Senator FR,,zn;R. I built a grainery on n1y fann. '!'he boy and I did all the work ou rselves, shingled it and all. A farmer that can not shingle a house over old shingles is not very 1nuch of a far1ner. :i\1r. JONf:S. Ask i\1r. Collins if h[...]ri or authorizi1fl"' the R{l'ent here to give him a check for $10,000 to pay the bills. woul[...]now anythin~ about the Esther J effer· son case, a g irl by the name of Esther J efferson, contracted bills to the a1nount of $10,000 or 1nore 1 i\fr. JONF.S. She[...]n what. was done about the $10,0001 ),fr. ,Jo:-a:s. 1-lc ought to know. S he was in debt to t he 1nerchnnts a rou nd here for !\!2,000. |
| [...]Mr. COLUNS. I do not know what it was, but it was a large su1n :ind they settled her debts. Senato[...]oing to ,vash- ington to get the n1oney or to get a check. Y011 did not reco1nn1end the pay1nent of t[...]JANUARY 16, ]026. llr. A. B . CoLLTl'<S, (Through s upc,·intendent, Shawnee Agency.) DEAR Sm: A report has been recel\•cd from InsJ)ector Blair[...]ou had refused to advise her as to th<., cos t of a barn built for her under your direction. Y[...] |
| [...]you handl<! for the Judinns. Should there be a rcJ)Ctition of the comJ)Utints, we will be t oree[...]Senn tor LYNN J. F&AZIEB, C'h'1ir-m a,i. Senate l11d,ian. Co-mm.ittec,[...].ER: Referring to that port of the Ilea ring held a t Sh11w11C<' Indian Agency In Oklahoma on November 20 !n which testimony wns produced showing tl>nt A. B. Col.lins, district farmer. wns ncting ns a collector, you will recall tbnt I testified tbat[...]n made by the Indinus ngainst Collins's methods, a nd thnt these comr,lui11ts have been made for sev· eral years. Tbrough n resolution passed by the Sac :incl Fox Council nt the ,old Sac and }'ox Agency September 6, the commissioner. )I[...]ime permitted we could have had the t(>Stlmony of a n)' o( the India ns under Coll ins's JuriSd ict[...]system. J would like ror the committee to sec a copy of Superintendent Eggers's r eport or his in[...]I hn,·e not seen It. but I am con,·inced it Is a whltewnsh such ns Collins has been setting c,·er since I hilve had any• t hing to do with Sac and Fox nfrnlrs. Yours very truly,[...]Chainnan. Sac crn<t Fo:c Busincsa Committee.[...]RNOON SESSI0!-1 The. con11n ittce reconvened a t 1.30 o'clock p. rn., pursuant to the |
| [...]71 19 The I NTERPRl.'TER. l-Ie says I am a member of the committee of the 8hawnee Tribe of I[...]RPJU,'TF.R. H e sars, I am not authorized to make a talk, but I got notice from ~fr. Eggers to be pr[...]l."1.".&n. Yes, sir. Sena.tor FnAzn:n. l-Ie is a 1ne1nber of the Shawnee Band and also a 1neinber of the business co,runittee of the Shawn[...]Senator FRAZIER. Ask him if he wants to ,nake a short statement to the co1n1nittee as to t[...] |
| [...]Senntor FRAZIER. Has there been any con1plaint a1nong your people iigainst thi~ !nnner, that he d[...]with the1n 1 1'he lNTE.l!l'RETEII. Others file a co1nphdnt against F~d1ninster. We held :t council[...].1zIE11. ,vhat is their general con1plaint. ,,rhy a.re t hey con1/>lai11ing1 'I' 1e INTt:RPRt:rrn.[...]it ought to be. I sa,v the house. Senator P1i-a:. Any fo11nclat1on under the1n? 1'he INTf:nrRt:rEn. Yes, sir ; he sa;i:s it is what ,ve call a box house. '!'hat is the kind of house that is bu[...]Give us the name of one of those people that had a house built who is here1 'l'he INTERPRE[...] |
| [...]here ? SARGENT El,LIS was thereupon called as a witness and, afte r being first duly sworn, testi[...]TERl'RETER. Yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. You are a Shawnee? '!'he INTERl'RETF.R. Yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. Did you have a house built for yon by the Gov- ernment farmer ?[...]an upstairs to it 1 1'he Ix·rt:nPRETER. Yes; a.n upstairs. Senator FRAZIER. 1'wo rooms upstai[...]d it built 1 Senator FRAz11-:n. \Vhat kind of a house did you want? The INTERPRETt:R. I want ~ood lumber to be used. Senator P1NE. Is it a box !louse ? 'l'he I Nn;1u'Rl.'TEn, I t is a box house. Senator PINE. \Vhat kind of a roof? The INTERPRETER. ,vood shingles. Sen[...]to the outside? The IxTJ:nPRE'J'l:R. 1'herc is a half piece of paper inside. Senator FRA[...] |
| [...]'ER. 'fhe farmer who built this house for n1e had a small boy and a wornan. 'fhis cnrpenter's wife she built the hous[...]TER. yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. What are their a..,es 1 The lN'J'.ERPRl.vrER. One is 20; the ot[...]CHARLES ,v. EoMINSTEn was thereupon called as a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testif[...]nntor FnAr.tF.n. You looked after the building of a house on his allotment or his land 1 i\f[...] |
| [...]prepared plaster that goes on t,he house. I t is a half iuch th ick. 'l'he beaver board is pliable. 'l'his is a prepared plaster. As we are taUdng I will pass this around. '!'hat 1s a picture of the housE, as it is now. Senator F[...]icle of roo1n that we could for thnt mnn. H e has a large fa1nily and I spent extra tirne even on Sunday in drn.wing plans in such a way as to get every dolla r out of it that I coul[...]s co1n rnittee 1f you had less thnn $400 to build a house, whether you would expect to get one[...] |
| [...]r. EolllNSTEn. ,ve let t.hcse houses by contract. A number of people bid on thcn1. This n1an 1nade t[...]rt:R . He states it is ra.ther poor material with a lot of knot holes in it. l\lr. EDMl1'STER. I do not think there is a knot hole in it. There are some knots in it. l\I[...]ould not get the best of mntennl in that kind of a house. Sonator FnAzo:n. Do you thing it will 1nake a fairly wann, co1n- fort11ble house? l\fr. EDMTKSTl:R. It is a. very wann house now. Senator FnMffER. How it[...]l\{r. ED)JJ:-<S-rt:11. He has stoves. It has a brick flue and has a flue opening in ench room. Senator Fn,, z u:n. He said a litt.le boy and the carpenter's wife worked on t[...]veu btnlt w house as we ha vc ever had built for a cheap house. Senator Fn,11.n:R. How mnny tin1[...]ut for him lie could do. His wife is as 1nuch of a carponter as the husband is. They have built sev[...]n writing? Mr. EDMINSTER. ,veil, I have it in a forn1 I would like to refer to it. l)urin" the I[...]r 1•·nAZlf:l!. i\V.hero repair work 1s dono on a house, !Ike reshingling or anythin~ of th[...] |
| [...]to my attention several years ago: I "'ent out to a man who ,vas reshingling his house. It was on a side roon1 and he st.arted at the top and was co[...]es. I went up on the ladder and cfiatted with him a rninute and stated to hiin that w.hen ca rpenters build a house they began at the bottom and put them up.[...]in that way. Senator FR,\ZTER. \ Vhat kind of a job did he 1nake i l\fr. Eol\IINSTER. ,vell, it was not very nutch of a house, but it stayed on t here, but it would not[...]z1En. , v e do not expect their ,vork to pass for a car- penter's job, but if these Indians are going[...]o,ne every year, or probably two or t11reee times a year. How many Indian farm fan1i lies have you go[...]r; when " 'e found that our other work was taking a good deal of our tirne, and for other rensons we tried to or~nn1ze a club in three different centers in 1ny distri ct,[...]self-supporting and everyone of the,n could make a livi ng on his own fnrn1. |
| [...]Ve have to look after those. \Ve have to do quite a little for this club work, besides leasing. Besid[...]both the Federal and State courts. \Ve give quite a ooood deal of ti1ne to 1narriages and divorces n1[...]and divorces? ?>Ir. Eo~nNS'!'En. ,~, ell, if a couple_ ,vere l!ving to~ethe1·, anc! we find the[...]suade those people to get 1narried. ,v ,vant a license or ought to have a license, we try to cl1·op around there[...]business, I would be almost ashfuned to venture a guess that the different couples that we have bee[...].R. Well, I guess they understand it, but we have a good many cases ,vhere we have to bring a little pressure to bear and a whole lot of consulting in order to get the1n to[...]tor 'fHOll,,s. Do you have trouble with d ivorces a1nong the poor Indians 1 ?>fr. Eo~UNSTER. vVe[...]mo~.$ the white people, but we do give them quite a ]1ttle attention. '\ve have attended to several divorce 1n11tters. vVhen they come to us for a divorce we try to settle that, if possible without letting it co1ne to a divorce. We feel it is our duty to do that[...] |
| [...]R. I do not know of an Indian family who lives on a farin but ,vhat they have a gnrden. Senator FRAzn:11. \¥hat do they raise[...]-ardens. Senator ~Azn:R. Do 1nany of them have a little far1n operation besides?[...]ealth looked after? i\{r. Eol\UNSTER. \Ve have a contract physician who gives probably half of his[...]1·. Eol\llNSTER. Yes, sir; we have taken him out a tin1e or two and I know he has gone out a number of times. Senator FRAZIER. Does the In[...]nre just losing out by it. We know that you have a lot of other -duties besides far1ning, but, at th[...]where the Indians have land, has got to be looked a.fter, nnd they have got to be ""iven assistance.[...]g along first rate. Senator 1':ao~tAS. I have a statement I want to mnke in connection with a state1nent handed rne just no,v. What attention d[...]d we kno,v they have n1oney here and do not have a suitable home, we do hunt the1n up. We make a specialty of hunting those up until they get a home |
| [...]y did not have homes. Senator 'f11oltAS. Is it a fact thnt some of t.hese Indians prefer to live in a house of thei r ow n selection rather than in hou[...]Ir. E1n11NSTt:1t. I believe that they do. ,ve had a n1nn in here the other day that had :t certnin a,nount of ,noney and I tried to pers uade that, nutn he could hn ve a larger house with practically the san~e ,_noncy by cutt.ir~g ou~ a ve,:Y large porch he was asking ~or and building that house 1n a little different shape. I sat down with hi1u and[...]ouse. 1-{e sccrned to feel he would r:tthcr h,1ve a larger porch tl1an s uch ii large house and when[...]hin~ over an Indian. Senator '1 HOM.As. I have a statement here that reads as follows: ,ve need[...]not pay me n cent.'' Did you e,·er ,nake such a re1nark? i\>Ir. EDMINSTER. I never ,nade a re1nark like that. I can not con-· ceive of ani.' circu1ns tanccs that would develop a ren1ark like that. Senator fnO)!AS. I find that cond ition existing in the minds of a good many Indians; that you are not workin[...] |
| [...]eled anct he will never get the money. He puts up a pretty strong argument and insists that I "ive h[...]t every family will be fairly ,veil provided with a house, but we have built 101 of them- when we do all that and do the othe1· thinis that I n1ight give you a list of, and ,viii be glad to furnish you a list of, and come in contact with everything they do practically, they would naturally have more of a chance and would take more of au opportunity to c[...]Sh.a·1011ce, ox,1a., No1,-e1nber 26, 1930. 8c11atc Oom11•lllcc on Ind.Ian A(fa,lrs, lVa..thi,ng[...]nrts of Ute work. This could not be c xplalued ot a bearing. os tha t bas only lime to bring out cert[...]o so If be could. Let us cxnmhte the condi tions. A missionary was com- mended for reporting t[...] |
| [...]culling poultry, o,·ersceing the coustructipn of a building, etc., us migh t be token up tu making c[...]many gt'fiY hairs, the Indians hin1ing that exu·a amount of money to blow in their own way would bn[...]mes and farms thnu some of them do there would be a long ways from the record of 101 out of 125 house[...]ans tlint n clean wickiup wa:; more snutiary than a dirty house. A wlckiup mny look clean when it ls far from being[...]rift of the con,•ersatiou, nod wisl1iog to mnke a point, said they did not have anything to say as[...]gest that I haYe ever built bas uccn 6ve rooms at a cost of $1,400. \Ve try to get four rooms if[...]llklng them. Auout the charge against me thnt a boy and wire or a co11tr11ctor nided him 1.n uuilding the Sargent E[...]Ody else, nnd doing what U1ey could from handllng a tool or board to painting, I wish to submit that[...]and the boy was learning to be useful Instead or a loafer or parasite, and that they together built a house that gaYe shelter, had a double wnll. the Inside one of sheet rock., 11s good as plaster, a solid co11crete foundation wall, a brick flue, wns of n good size, 20 X 26, and gave everything that a s mall house gh·es e xce1, t benuty, nnd[...] |
| [...]with the old house, I feel thnt I ought to ha,·c a gold medal instead of censure. As to building[...]ve spent many years among them trying to bulld up a 11biloso1>hY of subsistence fa,·ming, that if fu[...]e,eryone, old and yo11ng, steady employ- 1.n ent, a sufficient rem11oeratlon, and n llfetlme occupati[...]as I now do 011 buildings. If the right kin<! of a mnn could be stationed here at this agency for a cou1ite of years, who gn,·e hl.s entire time to[...]e Indians and lessees, it would do more good tbnn a dozen new bosses. Their farms are the only ki[...]they can keep their caJ)ital and labor together, a most desirable thing. What a relief from the 1>resent strain of unemployment I[...]y are self-dependent, since the qualities of such a man· is necessary to make n good farmer. Some sa[...]ful as such, but I submit that U1ey have been 111.a uy times more succe.s sful at this than , anythln[...]ltcs on some of the others. , You notice that a large fIBrt of the crlticlsm presented to your co[...]learn their frailties, but lean, to like them as a whole In spite of nil that. This letter Is written In a spirit of explonatlon and not in condemnation of[...]regard an)·body who allows himself to be called a farmer as n nonprogrcssivc, know-uotblng, Inferio[...]lone thou l ever did in any four years that I was a school-teacl1er. I know tbnt In the report of[...]ted with. nny of the farmers. lt may have been so a t other places. 1 do not know ho,v they got the I[...]farmers have bad to pnt UJ> with in 1he past. A gn,nt many prominent teachers bnvc hdped t[...] |
| [...]etc. If anybody got near the top In farming as a business, he must hnve been promoted to something else that was thought to be a more flttl11g reward to him nuher tbau keeping bl[...]een worked out In the other parts of the work. A wrong Impression that gets started thnt the farme[...]the holJerlng here received $100 for negotiating a lease oo the outside of some or the land of the 1906 net. Be probably feels that there would have been a number of fees if I bad not 1unde so many of the[...]to do one big thing tor ·this agency it will get a repeal of that law the second day after Congress[...]!ts workings and Its eliect on the Indians and ls a friend of them for frlendsbip stake, believes tha[...]in the interest of grafting. I nm giving here a I!st of some of the duties that a farmer pe1'forms. The first three Items, bullding[...]em to bulld what they can aliorcI, have them sign a request, set np the account, make op the plans and speciflcaUons, aid in choosing a site, advertise the bids, explain the points, open the bids, draw the contract and bond, make a number of trips in the s upervision, pass final I[...]an old man 011 bis lease In 1919. It was to be a small house and we got some Indians to help us nn[...]. Leaslng.-We Orst prepare for advertising, we do a great deal of personal advertising and so have ra[...]or the clubs. This Is the usual procedure: To get a location, set the time, write a notice card to every rontlly, get speakers[...] |
| [...]them- selves at the expense of the meeting, make a progrum, give considerable preparation- somebody[...]to awaken Interest, and develop the Individual In a well-bulanced w,\y. It is ndnlt training for succ[...]ater 11 nes. 11. Ditches. 12. Courts, Federal a nd State. 13. Marriages and divorces.-We try t[...]plats, looking up references; the other day I hnd a 80-mlnu te can before breakfast, and in U1e even[...]desk to counter, finding people away; nobody bas a conception of the far1ner·s work. 19. I try[...]Shawnee, Okla., who stated that be bacl never bad a n oppor- tunity to figure on any buildings 011 Indian allotments. I know that he has OD a number of occasions asked for work at this agency but h e found Uiat Dis• trict Former A<lmlster alwa~·s bnd the Jobs placed with bis re[...]rs makes good 011 his promise to gh'e the Indians a chance. Leroy went over to the ngency when the bi[...]o. I would rat.her believe the Incllnn to believe a man who Is l!IICh an nrtl~t In his alibis. I p[...]endent 1-Jgger~ to gh·c my brother employment ns a car1>enter and we will know wbet11er be is[...] |
| [...]some time ago. He bas considerable experience as a car- penter and is out of work and bas beeu for several ,\:eekS. He is a man of character, bas a good reputation, does not drink or use t-Obacco.[...]Leroy cnn do and I would Uke for you to give bim a chance, either to bid on these Indian bomes or to[...]e Leroy employ• meut, for be needs work, bnvlng a family to support.[...]C.:, You will recoil receiving the n1lnutes of a council and meeting of the Sac and Fox business committee nt U1e old Sac and Fox '.Agency, in Oklahoma, Sep· tember 6, 19[...]been done to Jlnd out tl1e real condition o! tlle Sac nnd Fox Indians, many of whom are destltule. Ther[...]m some of these right along. 'l'bere are over 700 Sac and Fox Indians. From this you will obsen·c that[...]e Indians who have no land than tbere are who own a llotments. J:he census gnvc the tribe something l[...]Ei;gers to make tl1is investigation. for he made a rePort to the Senate committee regarding the cond[...]Ohoirma1~ Sac an4 Fo3; B1ttti1iess Com,n.ittee.[...]tor LYNN J . FRAZJ&P., Ol&.-0irmc1n 8c11a.lc Indian Comm..iltee, lV'18h;ng/O,r,,, D. 0 . D&.1a SENATOR f'1uzn:R: On bchnlr of the s,1c an[...] |
| [...]endered valuable service for my tribe p ar tic- u1a,•Jy and we hope through his influence to get mo[...]lc. It is my opillion that he is wo,•king under a bandica11 at S.hawnee Indian Agency because of his chief clerk, Mr. J. A. Phifer, who was a caudi- date for the office of superintendent, but[...]um, work like painting, carpentering, etc. He has a night watcll wbo Is a white man . This is work th!lt Indians can do and[...]Indians In Sba\'\;nee who nt·e not employed. A press 1·e1>ort dated February 4, !rom \Vasbingto[...]took office, was going to change the Indian Into a more useful American citi1,en over nigh t, but wb[...]ians that the super- intendent ot ~Iiaml reported a few weeks ago were not in need of help. These J)r[...]m work that be can <lo, the Indian que.~tlon will a lways be an Indinu <ine.~tlon. \Vlth personal[...]e1non. J OE S.EUNNEMON was thereupon called as a ,vitness and, ofter being first duly s,vorn, test[...]SHINNEMON. Yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. You are a member of the business council or tribal council[...]ommissioner of Indian Affairs at Wnsbin.,ton make a com- plete report to the con11nittee or th[...] |
| [...]n. I s he the only one? Mr. SHINNEMON. It is a finn. H e has some associates with hirn. Sena[...]r, it seems to me like. Senator FnAzn:n. ,vas a bill passed by Congress to allow you to {:!o into[...]n can. H e is here. Senator F11Az1E11. I s be a me1nber of your band? Mr. S111NNEMON. Yes, si[...]the status of your 1natter is? ,vhether you have a state,nent of your account or not ? Mr. S111:[...]the way I would look at it; yes, sir. would like a report to the business committee or to those atto[...]ZlF.R. Have you applied to the superintendent for a report of that kind ? Mr. SHINNE)ION. W ell,[...]1,1zn;R. The superintendent has not been here but a little ,vhile. I want to ask the superintendent,[...]. Yes, sir. Senator FnAzu;n. But you will get a state,nent for then1 ? i fr. E GGERS. Sure; yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. I would suggest to you as a 1ne1nber of your business council that if your business council wants a state,nent take it up with the superintendent, and if you cnn not get a state- ment frorn hin1 write to us nt , vashingto[...]· Senator 1'' nAZU:R. W e have a statement frorn several Pottawatomie., ,na[...] |
| [...]on about that 1 Mr. S1•IINN:t:MON. There is a 11u1nbe1· of the1n wanting to know " 'hether the[...]arent right to the river bed. Along here you have a. piece of land next 'to the river and there are c[...]the 1·iver- you take the South Canadan is about a. half mile wi de- - Senator J?nAZIER. Do you[...]o. '!'hat proposition ,vent to the Supreme Court, a.nd the holdioi; was as I have just stated to you-[...].) ~\_NoRE,v Jol!NSON was thereupon called as a witness, and after being fi1·st duly sworn, test[...]JOl.lNSON. yes, sir. Senator FRAzlER. You are a member of the council 1 Mt·. JOHNSON. yes, s[...]retary of the council 1 Mr. JOHNSON. No; I atn a representative at , vashington. |
| [...]NITED STATES Senator 1-'nAzli::n. Is there a bill pending in Cong1·ess 01· has there |
| [...]Senator PINE. Why does not ,vade Ellis draw a bill and ask that it be introduced i ~fr. J[...]FRAZIER. If you instruct your attorney to present a bill and ask him to present it to these Senators[...]ent of you r account. For instance, if you wanted a statement of your own account. ~ir. JOHNSON. I never asked for one individually. I asked for a t.ribal account. Senator FnAZIBR. Of course, there is no trouble gettiug a statment of you1· tribal account as it stands no[...]one in the past up to date. Senator FRAZIER. .A. bill introduced and passed by Congress giving yo[...]to you. You will have no h·ouble in getting such a bill passed through Congress because they have ta[...]s. Gi:onoE KisHKL"TON was thereupon called as a "' itness and, after being first duly s,vorn, tes[...]isHKETON. Yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. There is a letter here from Willia111 Whitewater in regard t[...]~roN. I do not lmo,v anything about that. That is a different band. Senator FRAZIER. 1'hat is a different band. Have you a statc1ncnt you want to make about your peo[...] |
| [...]D STATES &nator FRAZIER. You ha,·e fii·st a co111plaint ilgainst the far111er |
| [...]u-hnv was not working at the ti1ne. 1vfay I 1nnke a state1nent in regard to that 1 Several years ago[...]ng to feel our ,vay in building these houses :ind a good 1nany of tl~e1n were reinodelling, ~nd so fo[...]d that out why that work stopped. It was probably a mis- take on n1y part in this, that I did not kno[...]so1nething about the fal'lner selling tun- ber to a sa,v mill '"ithout the consent of the owner of th[...]that knows anything about timber knows it gets to a place where it begins to decay. '!'hat is so with[...]osed those heirs were all in ~1exico. I ,nade out a timber per1nit for ce1-tain 1naturecl tree[...] |
| [...]There was n lease made outside the States. He is a nonresident Kickapoo. He has a right to make his ow1_1 lease out-side, if he wis[...]This man lived in Mexico and had lived there for a ?'Ood many years. 1-Ie came up here some- time Inst winter or in the fall of l'nst year and asked to make a lease on the outside. i\{r. Leach gave him that permission verbally, and I underst.and he went to a bank in :iVIcLeod and they drew up a lease for five years. I never saw the lease. I "[...]fiable. I have not refused to do anything. It was a ,natter that ,vas call'ed to my ntt~ntion. which[...]k after sickness in the reservation. We have only a hos- pital for t uberculosis and no provision is[...]id. We therefore ask that the Govern1nent give us a resident doctor and, if possible, to provi[...] |
| [...]the situa.tion here is such we can not carry out a good health program under present facilities. As[...]for the entire jurisdiction. He is only paid $50 a month and his contract provides he has to take c[...]ovided with two field nurses and rather than have a resident physician, because a resident physician would not be able to reach the[...]n on the north, I asked thern to provide rne with a fund of approxiinately $1,500 that may be used to[...]gement is rt is so far invay from here that it is a great difficulty to "et the1n to go there. Sen[...]· i\'Ir. Eoot:ns. I do not feel there will be a.ny doubt but. what we will be able to .get them i[...]e general patients 1 Mr. EooeRS. Oh, if we had a 25 or 30 bed hospital here it would be big[...] |
| [...]e1n? 1\1r. EGGERS. So far as I know. ,vhenever a case is reported in here we will get a physician. Senator F11,1z1ER. In the case of a[...]they would refer the 1nntter to us, we either get a physician to them or get the,n to a. hospital. lVe mRke quite a little bit of use of the local hospitals here whe[...]ld nurses; in addi- tion to t.hat that I be given a fund of approxin1ntely $1,500 each yen!" that we[...]here. I have Indians 60 ,niles north of here and a local physician could hardly reach the whole terr[...]rday, I t hink it was, ,vhere the Govern,nent had a full-time doctor. and paid hi1n I think, $216 a month. 'l'h11t doctor took care of about 50 calls a day nt his office and fro,n 5 to 10 calls in the field. '!'bat service would cost a. $100 a. day. If you hncl that nu1nbe1' of calls you woul[...]r 50 1niles nwa.y, what would it cost vou to send a doctor out there¥ • l\:l r. Eooi:Rs: ,vc would get a doctor ri ght close to it. If I h11d a case ha.ppcnin~ up there nt Cushing we would get a Cushin~ d?c~or. If ,t hnppene<t around Sha[...] |
| [...]ndian cases¥ i\fr. Eoo£ns. i\1y objection to a full -t.i,ne physician is that the ter- ritory is[...]gh to get to so it ,vould be rensonnble to expect a physicinn to cover the entire field ,vhy of course a, resident physician would be the proper thing-a fu1I-time physician. Seniitor FRAZIER. Has the[...]ettle the bills. Senato1· FnAzn:11. I suppose a good field nurse could take care of a lot of these cases? i\1r. Eoo.F.RS. Any iunoun[...]tuation considerably. Senator FRAZIER. Here is a. complaint here that the agency here has set all day Fridiiy and a half a day on Saturday for the 1ne1nber1; of the various[...]t hat. The facts of the cnse are these. '\Ve have a rule of that kind. \Ve advise our Indians to come[...]solute need or anything of that kind, not to stay a,vay but to co1ne any tune and the result is there is.not a day that ,ve do not have Indians here and ,ve ha.[...]1t 1f the con11n1ttee would let i\{r. Frazier say a few words 011 our behalf. Senator F nAz[...] |
| [...]b-nah-peah-quah, an old womnn, she wished to bave a house built the time she had money. She wanted Sac and Fox Indian and carventer trom McLoud. Edmist[...]I don't ,t11ink It Is necessary to .have h im for a Klcka[)OO farmer. He doesn't do any good for Klck[...],ve. the Oklahoma Kickapoo Indians, assemble<l In a t riba l council, have decided to give the following loformntlon a/ld humbly ask this Information will help t[...] |
| [...]the bearing, the fourth heir sold her share. But a re- hearing was held nod this fourth heir wns th[...], these lands have been given to white men. We as a tribe want to know why these extra pieces of land have been given to a white mnn when there are many Klclmpoo Indians wh[...]N\V. 12-10-8 was nn allotment whieb was given to a person who hod already bad one allotment. Then, later on this land was given to a white man by the nnme of William Harrison and a patent was grnnted him. \Vby should tbis land go[...]k after sickness In the reservation. We have only a bospltnl for tuberculosis !ind no pro,·ls!on Is[...]e, therefore. ask that t11e Government to give us a resident doctor, and 11 possible to provide for a general ho$Pltal for this agency. 4. This Shaw[...]ess. The agency has set nil day Friday and n bnlf a day on Saturday. All of tbc$e tribes can n[...] |
| [...]for by the Government; you Indians don·t pay me a ecnt." These remnrks make us afraid to as k quest[...]'s children had II land to tense. They picked out a def)Cndable mnn and n man that was willing 10 pa)[...]ncy and nlso nt the Sbnwnee Indian Snnltnrlum and a wily provided so ns to employ Indian help. \Ye[...]lc·kaf)OO Indl:1ns officlnllY assembled here in a tribal council at the Kltknpoo Mission on[...] |
| [...]of May, 1908, duly selected together with okemah, a member of said community, to act as its trustees,[...]ucted said trustees to purchase and Cully pay for a tract of land In the Republic of ?.iexlco which s[...]ommunity purchase and fully pay fo1· and Improve a tract of country about 6½ miles square ill the S[...]' BENTLEY' In the presence of- RALPH H. C A8&. E. L. CoRN>.,1'.I US. UNITED STATES OF A[...]015. PHILIP FRAZIER was thereupon called as a witness and, after being d u!y sworn, testified a[...]u belong to that group 1 Mr. FRAZIER. No; I am a Sioux from South Dakota. Senator FJUzIER. How[...]ator FRAZIER. How long have you been down here as a 1nis- sionary among them 1 l\1r. FRAZTJ::R. Fi[...]ll acquainted with their general con- ditionsi A1r. FRAZlJ::R. I am acquainted with the Ind[...] |
| [...]ilfr. Fn,1zn;n. Well.I-.I try to visit them once a month. Senator FM.ZIER. ~very ho1ne once a month 1 l\'Ir. FRAZIER. Yes, sir. Senator F[...]Kickapoos and the Government which have built up a sort of psychological reaction that causes the In[...]to those sanitary conditions. Senator FRAZIER. A number of these Kickapoos have had houses built b[...]or any- thing of that sort that you would find in a modern white 1nan's homo.I but you will find them[...]s of the old wiki-up. Senator TnOM,\S. What is a " wiki-up "J l\Ir. l?R,\ZIBR. 'fhat is[...] |
| [...]enator 'fHOMAS. Which ,vould be the more sanitary-a wiki-up clean or a house dirt;y 1 l\{r. FnAZIEll. A w1ki-up clean. Senator FRAZIF.n. Do you think they take more pride in keeping a wiki-up clean than a house 1 Mr. FRAZIER. 1'he old people take a good deal of pride in the fact they try to keep it clean. Senator FRAZIER. ,,7here they have a ne,v house, do they keep that clean¥ Mr. FRAZ[...]r is living in ,viki-ups and the son is living in a mode1·n hon1e, and there seems to be rivalry bet[...]surroundings clean. Senator FRAZIER. We visited a few Indian ho1nes and found many of them very clean. Do you represent a church 1 l\{r. FRAZIEll. I represent the Reli~i[...]rth 1 Mr. FRAZIER. More or less trying to have a fanners' institute where we employ the county age[...]odern home life. Senator FRAZIER. There is also a Government farmer that visits your locality 1 l[...]gious services. Senator THOMAS. "\\That kind of a report did you make 1 Afr. FRAZIER.. I to~cl hi[...]y good church goers; Just like _tlie wlute people a_nd _their neighbors. I told them they were[...] |
| [...]Indians consider that the white people set the1n a very "'Ood example in church going? i\fr. Fn[...]because so111ebody else does, although there is a good deal in the example, of course. :,\fr. Gnonu1>. Are you a Quaker 1 i\fr. Fn.1zn:n. Yes, sir. Senato[...]It 1night take son1e litt.le time. '!'hey ha.ve· a lot of these quest.ions put up there but they have a rnan who will pass on a p1·opo~ition of that kind and give an opi[...] |
| [...]apoo childre.n , Recording to the. rccords;.hni'e.a.100 per cent attenda,nce at -the school. ,ve want[...]l because the parents could not n.lford to put up a. lunch that w:1s 11nythi11g like the white 'peopl[...]e worse than usual. ' J\1r. FRAZIER. A.notber thing, in regard to unen1ploy1nent. Sev- e[...]work for the ,~inter. '!'hey have put tne1r crops a,vay and are w1lhng to go to work 1£ you could us[...]·· Senator FRAZIER. There is a. new l>uildino- to be built here at the sanitnrit[...]nd the hope ·is it ,viYI be started pretty soon. A.re there any of those ' Indian boys that can work[...]en 1ny pohcy. •Of course, I have been here only a short time. · . Mr. JONES. I am glad t[...] |
| [...]eing done for the benefit of t he Indians, it is a crime not to give them a chance to work if they are capable of doing the[...]hey will. Senator I•RAZIER. H ave you found a prejudice against the I ndian here? i\·Ir. F[...]e IL harder tirne getting along be• <'ause they a1·e out in isolated reser vations; ·where[...] |
| [...]n ,nan \\'Orks harder for his ,noney and he gets a proper return for the 100 cents on the dollar an[...]sed.) CHARLES DusHANE was thereupon called as a witness and, after being· first duly sworn, testified as follo,vs: Senator Fn,,zIER. We have a Jetter fro,n ~Ir. C. C. 1-Inwks in re- gard to s[...]way.' · Senator l?RdZIEU. There ought to be a settlement made1 ' :!\Ir. DusHAN[...]. _It,is no satisfaction to this office and it is a grievance to the Indian to· have to hnve his lan[...]p;u_sl out d))ring the y~~.'i5 1919 to 1924. The a,nount of 1noney tjlat was improper)y, paid out' w[...]are interested 1 Mr. D USHANE. i\ir. Brown-L. A. Brown of Shawnee-is the record owner. I thi1lk he is holding the land under a trust deed, or son1ething like that. There are perhaps three or four men inter- ested, but Mr. L.A. Bro,vn is the record owner. • Senato[...] |
| [...]enator P1Ni,;. 'l'here is nothing involved except a settle1nent of this money t hat has heretofore be[...]that they hnve sold 1 i\Jr. DuSUANJ::. I have a copy and I think that there is a. copy in the Indian Office at 1Vnshington. Sen[...]Mr. DusHANE. There is one other tract. I have a cop~ of this. It is in there. I iun not represent[...]IFER. This man is trying to present th:e clnim of a ,vhite man. It does not semn to me this comes in[...]long to the Kickapoos1 Mr. DusaANJ::. No; I am a Shawnee. Senator PIN£. Are you an attorney1[...]and, rqyalties, oil and gas leases. Senator Fn.a.zIER. ,ve will place this letter in the record.[...]racts or land which wt1s sold ac,:onltng to the a ct of Congress Jone 21, 1006. ·[...]e the trnnsnctlons. '.l'he ngeucy collected rents a nd tun1ed to Indlnn heirs or th is land Ins tead[...]s or th is land. Th~ owne rs nrc prn_ving f or a $ale or division or their portio11 or the[...] |
| [...]ether. This is signed by ~le Me 1'ho. JOHN A. PHIFER was thereupon called as a ,vitnes.5, and, after be- ing first duly sworn,[...]Senator FnAzn;n. Your nntne~ Mr. PHIFER. John A. Phifer. Seriato1; FRAZIER. You are chief cler[...]n1any years here? 1£r. PHIFER. Three years or a little over three years. I came here as chief cl[...]Kickapoos. The la,v reads that any Indian that is a non- resident may sell his land, both allotted and otherwise; that is, if he is a nonresident. Now, then, these Indians were not co[...], the I ndian must be an nllottee of Oklahoma nnd a Kickal)OO. H e must be an adult and be must be a nonresident of the United States. Then he[...] |
| [...]Indians under that decision have been going back aµd forth to old Mexico. '!'hey will stay down there and sign a deed-:to their inherited land. It is placed on record here. l\{aybe it is for a one-fourth interest in a piece of Kickapoo allotted land. 'rhen it gets[...]ause it all depends upon whether that Indian was a nonresident or not. I can tell whether he· is an[...]an tell whether he is an adult or not, but was he a nonresident1 A good deal depends upon his state of mind in that[...]lls. Senator THo~ras. H as your ollice 1nade a recommendation to the Indian Bureau at Washington on that1 i\ir. PHI.FER. We have asked for a special man to be sent here to investigate the m[...]v . Senator 'J'.llOMAS. I s~1ggest you prepare a recommendation of that kind; send 1t to nsh1n~n, to l\ir. i\fcGowan, and also a. copy of your recom,ncndation to .:,enator Pine a[...]t, ~ecnuse ,ve do not know whether 'the Indian is a nonresident or not. Senator THOMAS. It will[...]run on indefi- nitely Senator PINE. Is there a transfer of the land 1 |
| [...]o you think an Indian going to Mexico and staying a week ,vonld be a nonresident? Senator 'I'HOMAS. It does not loo[...]o be settled. Senator 'I'HOMAS. 'fhat involves a case in court on a charge of con- spiracy to defraud the Indian.[...]JOHNSON. Yes, sir. Senator PINE. Did you sign a deed 1 Mr. JoHNso:-i. Yes, sir. Senator PIN[...]those deals while l\:lr. Suffecool was in there. A lot of them are in a bad tangle. There a.re not only Shawnee cases involved but there are[...]tor 'fBOMAS. Have you had any reply¥ Mr. Pu1n:a. He referred it to the Attorney General and has a reply on file here.[...] |
| [...]in Mexico. llofr. Pnn"ER. Well, that involves a former superintendent of this agency. Senator FRAZIER. I wish you would furnish a copy of the opinion of the Attorney General on th[...]as the former superintendent? JI-Ir. P111n:R. A. "\V. Leech. Senator THOMAS. You said it involved a for1ner superintendent. JI-Ir. P1m·.tR. :i\f[...]That takes in the Shawnees. For instance ,ve had a case not long ago of an Indian who ,vas a Shawn(!e. He goes down to Mexico and rents a house just across the border,· and then he write[...]miliar with it. Senator FRAZIER. Did you sign a statement that you were in Mexico1 :i\:[r. JO[...]did you sign that statement1 ll'fr. Jo.HNSON. A,vay back. I never signed any state1nent. I never[...].-.;1:. It did not set out in the deed that he is a resident o~ Mcxico1[...] |
| [...]unearth each ot these <;ase~. fhey set out cert'a1n information tuat they a,sked for 1n each 1nd1- vidual CJlSe, and.with th[...]ive at an opinion as to ,vhethcr that Indian had a right to dispose of his land· under the act,of 1[...]ore the Sul)coromlt.tee of. the Senate 011 Jn4ian A(lni;s, l •ha.ve the honor to lncloi;e 1berewl1h[...]I ,· JOHN A . PmFm, Senior Clerk.[...]net, or who became residents of that Republic at a subsequent date, might dispose or noy Inherited I[...]ans may lease their lnnds without supervision for a period of five years. |
| [...]Ortion of their lnnds here, and these lands were a mong the most valuabl e from. n,11 agri• cul1ur[...]ed Interests here or lease- their own nllotmcnts. A.JI thnt was neceS$ary for tin Indian to do who ha[...]nherited interests was to go to ~Icxico and claim a residenci> there and disp0se of his interest, In[...]on the De11ar1ment of Justice frequently for some a ssistance, which Is not a lways promptly re nder<·d. 1 feel that some o[...]rosecuted, and 1 will recom• mend that you seud a compete11t inspector here to thoroughly ltwcstiga[...]tles; or, If It would be poss ible to do so, have a representatlve from the De1mrtment of Justice d e[...]urnished these parties, and it would certainly be a great r elief to us It some action of this kind c[...]A. ,v. LD:Cll, Supcrinlende,.t. A UOU~T 8,>1929. |
| [...]llotment of Quen-nep-pe-that, fo1,1r hei,rs owned a two hundred and sixteen two bundred and eighty-ei[...]nge 2 east, and sold their undivided interests to A. $, Norvlll. Allotment of Wah-que-ton-no-quah,[...]ge 2 east, and sold their u ndivided interests to A. S. Norvlll. ' Allotment of Knh-tuck·o-kah, four heirs owned a two hundred nnd sixteen two hundred and eighty-ei[...]ange 2 east. and sold their undivided interest to A. S. Norvill. Allotment of Mn-na-thn-qua•nh, two heirs owned a one-twelfth interest each ln lots 7 and 8 of the[...]r of section 13, township 11 north, range 2 east, a nd sold their undivided Interests to A. J. Ownbey, Allotment of Me-pnw-ki-e-quab, nor[...]Indians, wtll say t hnt the Jll'incipa l ones nrc A. S. Norvill, \Yallnce k~still, Ira t,. Cou[...] |
| [...]for other parties. They hn\'e just recently mnde a trip to Mexico to secure signatures to some pape[...]ns living here in Oklahoma. I am also lncloslng· a copy of my letter of December 28, 1928, addresse[...]mine Jnst what ones come \\ithln the scope of the a ct of June 21. 1906, providing t11at rC$idents o[...]n goes ,,cross tlic border In i\Iexico he becomes a resident there, whether lie went there to mnkc th[...]rust the office will st-c lt.'l way clear to send a man here to mal;e n thorough Investigation of all[...]might r<.-fer to one cnse In particular, that of A . S. Norvill. 'file Nos. L-S 67680-25 nnd L-S S202-28. Only to:dny \VaUnce Estill cnme to tills office a nd proposed to purchase the interest of NorvUl In[...]or .J.une 21. 1006, and that the purchasers paid a fair price for the Interests they obtained from the, heirs. I would nlso like to be a ch·lsed !! the office construes the act or Jm1e[...]e rnct~. I t'firnestl~· trust the 90lre "iU send a mnn here to thoronghlr hn·esttgate the1,c trnnsn[...]A. \V. I->:>:cn, Sup/:1'i»tcwTe11t.[...]$EPTE>IB&R 10. 1029. Mr. A. ,v. 1,,,x:n. Sup&rintei1de11t St«n[...] |
| [...]ple as being lnvoh•ed In such transactions, one a former eutJ>loyee, and suggest 1111 investigation wltlt a view to bringing criminal prose- cution against t[...]ich such operations are carried on, whether it is a matter of fraud, those manipulating same and bow bandied, and whether of s uch a nntu.-e ns to justlf.v <:rlmin;,1. action or mere[...]The suggestion is also made by you u,at there be a repeal of the act of Juue 21, 1906, which permits[...]lease under snid net. We do not want to cause you a lot of work, but a state- ment showing the number or Indians holding such lands, the a,·cn of each, its general locution and value, tog[...]at price, and the value of same, would se,·ve as a strong justification for any lei,1slntloo which m[...]her he has lived In Mexico will be the subject of a separate communication. Sincerely yours,[...]ll'ashi11!1t011, D . a. Da.a Sm: Io compliance with your letter of September 10, lnsr,ectiou 38754--1929, I am lnclosing herewith a copy of the data requested by you in reference to[...]is located. I have reason to believe that quite a number of transactions ln,·olving these and othe[...]sers wherein the Instruments ha,·e not been made a matter or record and we are thus unable to furnis[...]and in most cases the Indians have received only a small traction of the actual value or U1e land. For a wh!le there was not much activity along this line, but during the last year or two, J)artlcnlar!y since a clerk we formerly had at this agcnC)' was dlsm.ls[...]detailed from tlie Department or Justice to make a thoroui:b survey of the situation with tltO Yiew[...]riclell ,UJcl whnt Is not. Ir It Is found Utnt a representat.1,•e o! the De1>nrtment of ,[...] |
| [...]he moth·e back of this move In my opinion Is not a worthy one what- ever the motive, howe,.cr, much[...]A. w.[...]still vested In the United States. Please give me a ruling on this particular question.[...]Sfw·1011ee, Okla,., J a1111arv -4, 1930. COMMISSIONER OF INDIAN AFFAIRS,[...]f December 31, 1929, will say thnt I am incloslug a copy of the letter to the county clerk of this co[...]some of the Indian land under this ·agency; also a copy of n letter received from the United States[...]· I am told that Charles Dushane, a former clerk at this agency who was dls- mlssed from ser.·ice some two years ago, has recelYCd a com.mission to pince ce1·t.nin tracts of land on tbc tax rolls, and be will make n demand of us for a privilege of eJ<nmining our records at an early d[...]·: I trust the office will take steps to a ssist us in straightening out this matter and tru[...]A. W. L.!lPJOH, Superintendent.[...]Oklall.oma Oit11, Okla., December 31, 1929. Mr. A. W. L.EEOII, S11perinte11den.t Sao and Foa, I[...]· Sll.a-umee, Okl<i. D.,,,a Sm: In connection with our conference relative to[...]ng these Indian allotments on the tax rolls until a <leflnlte decision Is arrived at. I am quite sure[...]Oklahoma City, Okla., D ecember 31, J9B9. The A-rroaNEY G,;NERAL, 1vashi11v1011.[...]ttawutomie County where. u,e Klckn1>00 allotments a re located coocernJng taxation. In one insrnnc[...]xists: An allottec lived in Mexico. Her allotment a few years ago was sold to the Oklahoma Gns[...] |
| [...]teps you think should be t,iken in the matter. A Kickapoo Indian by the nnme of F1·nnk Reed bad a[...]s all the facts and circumstances Involved, be in a position to attempt to answer such questions, if[...]A881Slant Attorney General[...]u may deem proper to take ln tbe premises copy of a lett~r Crom Roy St. Lewis, United States attorney[...]- - -,. Alton1cu 1Je11ernl. 2(l4(',a-1,!1- 1'1" lG- 34 |
| [...]Oklahoma City, Okla., Jan,uary 28, 1980. ll{r. A. W. LEECH, S11.pcrinlendc11t Slw,cncc Indian Af/etlC/1, Sl1<'10Me, Okla. D>:AR Sm: Inclosed tlnd a copy of a letter tbnt I have received from the At• torney General. I t ls a1>parent U1at you should report the matter to your[...]pa$$ed uPQn by the Attorney Gene1·nl's office. A COP)' of my letter to tbe Attorney General under[...]ll{AY 1, 1930. Mr. .J. A. PUIFER. Senio,· Cl erk in OhlJ,·ge, Shawn ee Agc11cy. MY Dua ~fl< Pn1.-ra: Inelose<I Is a copy or n letter from the Attorney Gen• eral, dated January 18, 1930. a copy of n letter from u,e United States attorney[...]to the Attorney General of December 31. 1929, and a copy of the Attorney General's answer of .Tnnuary[...]t to the attention of this office, accompanied by a statement of the facts In each case, necessary to a determination of the status of the land.[...]g the orlgl- ual period of trust, tnxatlon begins a t the end of 25 years from the dnte of the patent[...]ce In the United Stntcs Is suscept ible of proof. A ,-1sit to ) lexlco. even for a somewhat extended period. Is not neecssarlly au a[...]ited States. Evidence of lntl';1tion to esrnbllsb a residence P.lsewhere. or to retain his residence[...]of his' minor chil· dren without aupervlslon for a period or not exceccllng n,•e years.[...] |
| [...]7169 Whether this provision would act as a removal of restrictions from land 1>Urchased tor[...]ions against alienation, bas 11ot been decided by a Federal court; but ,I n view of the fact that sal[...]ian Affairs." To enable us to determine whether a particular tract of land or lntcreat therein Is r[...]atisfactory if one or more cases be undertaken at a time, and fully completed before submls- ~lon to[...]taru. RonERT S:atALL was thereupon called as a witness and, after being .first duly sworn, test[...]neighborhood of 60 miles. Senator Fn,1zIER. .A.re you a. member of the business council of the Io[...] |
| [...]ge Kish-lG.t-On wus tnlk1ng about in reference to a. hospital. . : · Senn[...]. Senator FnAz1ER. How did you happen to ~et a patent in fee ? l\ir. s~rALL. ,ven, there was a party of people like you people can1e here and just picked me out and said I was a. competent Indian and I know I was not but they j[...]ook it. Senator FRAZIER. You did not apply for a patent in fee1 l\fr. SMALL. No. Senator FnA[...]. Senator TMOlCAS. You knew you were not a co1npetent Indinn1 i\fr. s~rALL. No, sir; I did not class myself as a competent India1i. Senator 1'uoMAS. 'fhat is a high degree of co,npetency in ,ny esti- n1ation.[...]and I have forgo~ten who they were, but there was a bunch of co1nn1issioners 01· invest,i gntors. Th[...]land ?- · l\{r. SllALI,. They give n1c a patent in fee. Senator FnAz1e11. Did yo[...] |
| [...]ED ·s T.~ TES 717,Ji l\[r. S)1A1.r.. 'l'het'e' ,1lere six, I think. I am•jµst counting the Iowas. 'fhere were so1ne Sac and Fox·,1t't,he saine ttme patented when l got[...]lled us down tnere· one dav and they j1L5t 1nade a big talk of it and issued the patent.[...]l\ir. s~rALt. Yes, sir. Of course they made a t.alk. 'fhey did not call us in one at a time.· They come out in an open 1neeting in front of the a<>ency. They line us ur over there and they niade a big talk about alY these boys were equa to ,vhite men, t hey said, and they are going t? get theirJ>atents a_nd they are going.out in the world, and we are 1[...]thing I ,vnnt to talk about, and that is we have a little ,noney coming through this office by some[...]oo small an amount I Q go into details of ,naking a roll. '\-Ve had a judg1nent against t he Government and when that is paid out they would be paid up. \Ve let that go on a,~d we never got.it._ The other money we le[...] |
| [...]o the fanner or anything, but I was requested by a lady-----1,he ,vants to say something on behalf o[...]wants to get you fellows to call het. But that is a different _thing. Senator FRAZIER. Did this la[...]d you to say 1 l\1r. SMALL. She wanted to make a co1nplaint against Mr. Collins. 'l'his is ,vhat o[...]ator FRAZIER. This is signed by Jacob Dole. It is a letter fro1n a member of the I owa business co1nmittee. I s this[...]tee, W"sh/111110,.; 1). O. . • . Sm: As a member of the business committee· or the I own '[...]information on this t)nrtlculiU' . mntter. .~Ir. A'.· B . Collins, our boss farmer, retained some o[...]lso I would appreciate any Information leading to a definite understandlng ofi this matter"l[...]maQ signs 5-year lenses to great advantage. It Is a case of signing two lenses to our one. •Aud the advantage Is this: He (white man) draws a $25 bonus.,where we only draw the meager sum of S[...]Go,·ernment to my tr ibe has about to ex11lre In a f.ew years. Frnnk Kent, Ohnrles Klhegn, an[...] |
| [...]7173 FRANK !CANT was called as a witness and, after being first duly SWOl'n, testified ns follows: Senato!' FliAzIER. You a!'e a member of the Iowas? i:1r. KANT. Yes. Senato!' FRAzr.tn. Have you a statement you want to make to the co1nmittee 1[...]that for ful'thel' investigation. I wanted to buy a piece of land with it at that time. That is what I want to say. Senator FRAZIER. Buy a piece of land for the tribe? i:Ir. l(ANT. Yes,[...]hat did the other Iowa Indians think about buying a piece of land with this money? Mr. KANT. The others 1vant to buy a piece of land and some did not. Senator FnAzrtn. Any other statement you want to make t Senator Pri-a;. iir. Kant hands me a lettel', in ·which he states: '.l.'he[...] |
| [...]tor P1NE. You are not one of the Indians to ,vhom aa group with the Potta,wota1nies and ICick- apoos i[...]I, .Tosetle Virginia Juneau Schwartz, 55 years of a ge, boru No\'cmber 30, 1872, at To~lrn, Kans .. am a de.~cendent from Nar- cisse )J. Juneau and Magdel[...]ong to the Oltl1,en Banc!. I ha,·c been enrolled a t \\'ashlngton and have received payment of land[...]nt I, Mary MadgaJene Schwartz Nelson, 40 years of a ge, born Junuary 6, 1S90, at To1>eka. Kans., am a descendent from Narcisse l\1. Juneau aucl Magdeli[...]ton and have not receh·ed pnyment of land yet on a11y claims. l\fy mother bas received both ln.nds n[...]age, born October 11, 1892, nt 'fo~ka, Kans., nm a dcl!Centlant from Narcisse M. Juneau nud M[...] |
| [...]nge, boru January 1, 1005, at To1>eka. Kans., nm a descendant from Narcisse M. Juneau and Magdalene[...]ELIZABETH STEU.A |
| [...]t age, born June 13, 1902: ilt Topeka, Kans., nm a descendant from Narcisse ~1. Juneau nnd Magclcli[...]of age, born J une 3, 1893, at Topeka, Kans., nm a descendant from Na1•elsse M. Juneau and Magdel[...]ren's names are Lila Schwnrtz, Helen Sch"':lrt.z, a nd Dorothy May Schwartz.[...]age, born ~larch ·9, 1001, nt Topekn, Kans., am a descendant from Narclsse M. Juneau nnd Ma[...] |
| [...]e, born Octobe r 20, 1900, at 'l'opcka, Kans., nm a dcscendnnt from 1'111·c,;;.c;c )I. ,Juneau nnd M[...]' M .ARY .ll. JoNt:a, Notar11 J'ulillo. To whon, thi$ mav 0011oern[...]of age, ,v. B. GunN was called as· ·a witness, 'and, after being first· duly |
| [...]ops? ·· 1\11·. GuRN. 'fhey have a bettei· crop this year than in the last fh·e ye[...]t know anythin~ about thnt, but I .,vnnted to add a little bit to that. 'fhere are a te,v Indians, about six of thmn, who nre plannint; to go to old Mex_ico at this _time, in 1ust _a few days. Of course, l do not kno,v thell'[...] |
| [...]sir. Senator Fn,1,zIER. I think it. would be a good plan for you or the superintendent to talk t[...]in and what it is likely to mean for them to make a false affidavit and dispose of their land. i\:fr. GunN. Some of these fellows a.re going to get beat. They are going to lose thei[...]and fraud and it is conspiracy. Senator FRAzn::a. 1'hey will lose their land for a small pay1nent, in all probability. i\:fr: GUR[...]the other side are the Oklahoma fields. It is on a direct line between the two fields. I t looks as[...]used.) Mrs. McALLESTER was thereupon called as a witness and 1nade the following statement: Senator FRAzIER. Have you a statement ! ~frs. McALI.EsTER. I run into a bunch of these Indians holclin~ a 1ncetin~. Little Creek and J im Clark can tell .J[...]o of what he has got. Senator FRAZIER. Are you a Kickapoo¥ i\frs. McALI.EsTER. No; I am a Shawnee and Sac and Fox. Senator FRAZIER. Do you think there i[...]na1nes to you. Where are they nowt i\f rs. Mo.A.u.F.sn:a. I do not know. Senator 'THOMAS. They a[...] |
| [...]\-IcAr.r.EsrF:n. In t.he past year I have been in a Ia,vsuit con- nected with this omce. 'l'his advi[...]e sanctioned it. 1-Ie is 80 years old. He married a woman 25. There ,vas evident fraud there. Sen[...]effort to annul· the 1na1-riage. There mignt be a minor report of the case but I do not· think it[...], Senator PINE. I-lad they been acquitinted a long ti,ne 1 l\frs. l\1cAr.r.ESTER. Yes, si r[...]attorney here in 'fecun1seb. 1'hat nt,torn~y had a file of books on his desk when we went up to see[...]il, when I saw those .law oooks I kne" he was not a co,npetent attorney. So ,,·c got 13cn ,villiams[...]out six weeks arto. I said this ofltce, who ga\'c a~,·ice to the Indinns who were iri :r.¥exico |
| [...]nt into the justice of the pence's office to hold a. confol'ence the sheriff of Pottawato1nie County[...]Mrs. l\1cA.LLESTER. No. Senator PINE. Got a. divorce sinee then 1 Mrs. l\1cALLESTER. Through this office, through a compro1nise; but had I known, and I want Mr. Egg[...]d, but it ,vas born in wedlock. He would have had a hard fight to prove it wns not, and the 1natter w[...]has sonic valuable land nn<.1 with an old man in a case like that i t is not easy to get out. ,ve finally sub1nitted about a two-page report to the India~ Office asking !luth[...]for · the woman out of the old man's ftinds. It a,nounted · to Sl,7QO. It ,vas all put before the[...]y ,,ould be made 1n the cou nty records grun ting a divorce. |
| [...]he committee how n1uch his estate ,vould probably a1nount to. ~11·. PHU'ER. I would not be able to say. Laud is not very valu- a.ble. The royalty at this time and mineral _l'ight[...]isclaims it. Senator FRAZIER. He wanted to get a divorce? · :i\'Ir. PHIFER. Yes, sir; that was[...]s. I-l ow did he happen to get into this _kind of a de~I[...]IFER. I do not kno,v. Senator THOMAS. Was the, a<1ency responsible! . Mr. PHIFER. No, ~ir. The[...]he I ndian in getting rid of what might be termed a bad rne..ss1 ~ir. PHIFER. It was the opinion o[...]is woman married him simply for his money. It was a scneme. He got tied up there, and the best thing[...]and get ·rid of her. Senator TuoMAS. That was a protection to the old ,nan and not to the woman a[...]0 for the child. Senator THoXAs. Well, that is a condemnation of the mother and the child when you[...]to but you, if it was legitimate. Mr. Pn,rf:n. A report of the whole matter was ,nade to th[...] |
| [...]ir. Leech and I begged l\ir. P hifer als~ to have a special man to go into court if the C!lse was bro[...]papers fil ed before the co1n1nittee relating to a suit that is now pending in so1ne of the courts r[...]1ission to appenr·•here to-day to be heard for a moment. WILLIKM R. CAVANAUGH was thereupon called ,1s a witness, and, after being first duly sworn, testi[...]ociation, with headquarters at 1'ulsn. \Ve ha,·e a 1ncmbership of npproxiinately 1,500. So1ne[...] |
| [...]nator FRAZIER. Some ot these Indians who may have a. royalty? Mr. CAVANAUGH. Oh, yes; there are se[...]is l\fr. ,valter 1:Veiss. H e is worth more than a million dollars. He is a Seminole I ndian liv- ing down at Konawa. I can g[...], 4, or 5 years in amounts ranging anywhere fro1n a hundred thou- sand to away above a million dollars. · Senator PINE. '! 'his is a reply to some of the state1nents made over there[...]committee: Last winter Senator Blaine introduced a bill, last Janu- ary. .Along in .A.pril you granted a hearing. Your co1nmittee fzrantcd a hearing to Senator Owen. Senator Blaine introduce[...]. Do _you not think ;:;enator Owen does represent a large portion of the Seminole Indians! Mr. CAVANAUGH. He represents a group of them that happened to be the unfortunate[...]g bonuses for their royalty and they still retain a portion of tfieir royalties and get income[...] |
| [...]a- homa something that has become more or less of a racket on the part of_some of these unethical law[...]nd he did not want to make these Se1ninole titles a common com1nunity property for all these 17 years[...]tle up and shake people down! and that is what it a1nounts to. vVe are going to try to straighten t 1[...]c goin_g to the State Bar Association and conduct a private investigation nght now and we are going t[...]wsuit was absolutely promoted and instigated, an~ a 1neetin~ of Indians called that happened to be th[...]lot111ents and thoy ,vere agitated i11to starting a lawsuit. Senator 'l'HOMAS. What kind of lawyer[...]ry; yes, sir. He operated with ~{r. George Swift, a gentleman who has beerr rnaking a practice of that kind of thing in Oklahoma ever s[...]at Washington asking yoll' to approve this bill. A ,veek later at Fort Worth, Tex., he appeared before our organization and tried to ~et a $25,000 fee to lobby a tariff for us. He will get you going anct corning[...]THOMAS. An attorney that does that is considered a mighty good attorney. 'l'hese papers will be file[...]:) STAn:YE'NT OF THE MID-CoNTINENT ROYALTY 0WNER8 A88001ATION IN OPPOSITION'[...]bill (your committee having heretofore re<!elved a sta tement In support of such measure Crom those[...]l as Introduced Is lo• the followhtg language: "A BILL To amend the act entltted 'An act con[...] |
| [...]ny provision of Jnw to the contrary, sha ll be by a committee consisting of Chill Fish, Allan Crain,[...]n in not less than two leading newspapers ba,~ing a gcucrnl circulation in Semlnole County, Okla., to[...]royalties from lenses vested In the Seminoles as a group. then nil leases beretotore made by the Sem[...]court shall find that any lessee or 01,erator of a tense heretofOl'e mnde has In good tnltb pnld roy[...]ld hn~c bee1> pnld 10 the Sem inoles nforesnJd as a group, then, and In that event. the snid l[...] |
| [...]inoles," and/or to intervene In any proceeding In a Uni ted ~tates Court to recover their Interest in[...]l find said mineralJ; vested 111 the Seminoles as a group, then the Seminoles by legislative fiat to[...]xtracted, the Secretary of the Interior shall fix a royalty to be paid to the Seminoles; further prov[...].County. Sult Is brought by t11e c9111mittee for a group of 8.119 United States c1tl1.e11s f[...] |
| [...]ou the group bu t binding on the tribe. 'l'he a ct would al$0 undertake to pronounce the judgment[...]g upon the Unlled States court authority which It a lready possesses to bring in necessar)' parties. Certnlnly no autho1ity Is needed to e11n1,1c litigants to a,·ail himself of public records and documents.[...]med in the proposed bill haYC lodged the suit as a con.unittee for the group whose nuthority was sou[...]e legality, of the use of tribal funds to c nnblc a grou1i of hulividmlk; to prosecute litigation Is a subject which shoulcl ln,·lte the serious ottt:n[...]on sees no reason why allorneys representing such a group should ha,·e uny peculiar JJriYilege in ha[...]e plaintiffs were by consent of counsel argued by a ttoruers for t he committee before the Circuit Co[...]e co1nmittee there are attached to this statement a co1>Y or the Seminole commit· tee's bill of comp[...]trict of Okla· h oma. marked " Schedule ,\," and a copy of the opinion of the Circuit Court of Appea[...]United States Is lncqultnble. Conse<1uently a Yery substantial number of Seminole citizens whose a llotments ha ve proved productive and who[...] |
| [...]e to these Seminole lands. Coni:;ress throusb Uie a ct of lllay 27, 1908, in section 11 s1>eclfically[...]and the rnmificntions it w, uld reach. amount to a national calamity. Titles would be so disturbed,[...]terests of tl1e parties who seek this legislation a11d who Inspi re this lltlgntion. the righ[...] |
| [...]are of the Indians and I believe that Congress as a whole is ln- terested in the welfare of the Indi[...]hey have evc1· taken before. '\Vhen we go back a study of this record that has been made will be.[...], 1930. To the bwestiuaUn(l Oomm;ttee on Indian A.fTair8. MY S&NATORS AND FRIE1'DS: Mr. Chairm[...]he beginning the United States Government and the Sac and Fox Indians ot ~llsslsslppl, now in the Sta[...]further, that they have at all times talthfully a nd strictly adhered to and . complied with each[...]en made with the United States and the tribe of Sac nod Fox Indians of 't he i'IIl9SISslppl. In the year of 1867 a treaty was agreed upon by both parties, the Unite[...]ment and the Ind ians. In this treaty t.llere was a good under• . standing when the Indians were st[...]r 14, 1868. Io tlils agreement there wall to be a school established and other bulldlr1gs were to b[...]Chlck•ko-skuk. Uc•qua-ho-ko. Mut-toh -t.qh, a cou ncilman, Mn Na to ,vaw. Their unde rstnndlu[...]was done on the resen·allon where now tho former Sac and }'ox Agency wa s established, and on or aho[...]school was closed or abolished. t11em not knowing a nr· thing about U1ls and never was noti[...] |
| [...]schools. If the school never bad been closed, the Sac and I,'ox children would have been In this schoo[...]ment of the Interior has been the best shield the Sac and k'ox Indians ever did have. That for many[...]Kuck) or Keokuk) was u,e prlnclpul chief of the Sac and Fox Indians of the i\llsslssippl and that he[...]of 1832 and all subs~1uent treaties between tile Sac and l•ox Indians of the United States. 'l'hat h[...]years, and up to tlie time of his death In 1903. a chief of said tribe of Indians. 'l'hat Keokuk and[...])rotcctlon in regard to I.he children as tbere ls a sad story on ahead for t11ese chlldren, c.;pccinl[...]ght in aceordance in which promise made. These Sac and F ox Indians were ne,•er without an agent u[...]kind- ness In which this statement be brought to a close. With best ot wishes and kind regards,[...]A Sao and F<n Oommiltce.[...]mpt to cover the points discussed below. No doubt a more comprehensive view of the situation than her[...]of the word. These observations come about as a result or the considcrat.lon of the Indian tuberc[...]eradication or u,at disease. But It seems almost a hopeless task to do anything unless attemp[...] |
| [...]n so far as It affects the Indian pop11lation as a whole. Its possible we would have ·ooen more suc[...]ed that any ambitious person would expect. While a real American, the Ind.inn Is a different race from those with whom he lives. Al[...]yers t11elr own people. This fact would i11ditatc a real need for amalgamation of races. So long as[...]essions or any other tied but it does not work In a white man's country. To make Indians successful i[...]Indians are taz)" and not Industrious. But ,prev.a iling opinion should not be accepted ns a fact lo a matter ot tbls kind . . U these occu1,at1ons for[...]upervision should be .kept up so long ns there is a racii1.I problem, perhaps after tbe Pl.a n of farm and, home agents for counties. " 'hen I[...]r,vlng. .. Tuberculosis Is decimating the race nt a rate ftve to ten times that among the whites. Trn[...]heir .xace ;, and It Is our job because we assume a governmental responsllillity for the welfare of t[...]be mnde "1th6ut this service. Ropltills should be a,•nll- nble for the blrtl1 ot every bnby[...] |
| [...]NDIANS IN UNITED STATES 7193 In a' ,·cry short time. All these things can be done[...]ut they nre not prohibitive. \Ve are now wasting a great part of wbnt Is spent because It is spren<I[...]always. Surely we shall handle Indhm affairs in a manner tbnt will rellect credit on our Governmen[...]he Senate I11ve8tigatin(J Oo>111nittce of 11,dian A(Tair8: I nm espcclnlly calling your attention[...]eprived Indhrns ot tbeit· money, cs1>ecially Ute Sac 11nd .l<'ox Tribe Of Oklahoma. This law gin,s tbe[...]om J>nsturiug stock and large pecan yields from a large pecan forest. 'l'his law gives the com[...]"holding the bug," nnd in such emergency we, the Sac and l<'ox Indians, would stand hel111ess, reliev[...]hat It is beln;: used for the educ11tlo11 or our Sac and Fox children. Each Sac nnd Fo>: Indian bas a chance to share In these funds from oll rentals a[...]~-ears. and nn hl\'CStlgatlon will show that the Sac nod Fox need money, especially the old Indians w[...], Shawnees, Kickapoos, Pottnwntornles, Iowas, and Sac and Foxes. None or tbese tribes use any of their[...]lllre, physician hire, and medical sup1>lies tor a large sanatorium located nt the Shaw11ee I[...] |
| [...]lngs. That Is to say, they are utterly ruined and a total loss to our tribe. All this bas happened ag[...]ns. bad been consulted there would be to this day a flourishing, happy l<('hool tha t our children co[...]n claims she can ,,nd is taxing s uch property by a decision of a United States li'ederal judge here lo Oklahooin.[...]agency, and those ,yho are Interested would llke a decision. on It from the Supreme Court ot the Uni[...]his repOrt to be the facts. They nre cut short of a crop account of this dry season. They also compla[...]tly encouraged. It would at the same time prevent a lot of suffering and sickness among these Indians[...]---------- ---- - - -----·· --- --- 2, 4lS8 Sac and FOX------------·----------------------------[...]··----·-··---- --------··--- -- 800 Sac and Fox.·---·-·--··-··---·····[...] |
| [...]STATEME:NT J ohn McOlcllan, a Snc and Fox Indian, living near Cushing, Okla., a[...]t 11.nally consented to lease my land to Evaliue Givens, a Sac and Fox Indian, of A.Yery, Okla., and unde r the juris- |
| [...]ase them places for the snme amonnt, but he mnde a cut on them Instead ot trying to get all be could[...]cl no Osage, It wns voted by the Iowa 'l'rlbe nt a council to enroll them before we got the payment[...]img Oom.,,·l ttcc: I the undersigned, being a member ot the Iowa Tribe, both parents of mine being Iowns. nnd the fnther being the present chief, had a cbilcl born to me -on October 81st, 1929, tried t[...]Indian Agency, so Is my parents ancl myself, but a certnlu member of the tribal committee says she I[...]m: We are now forwarding to you the proceeding of a General Ooun· ell, dated May 20, 1030, at Sacred[...]al right which our delegates, Anclrew Johnson and A. Bourbanlns, as citizen bnnd of Pottawatomie are[...]erstl)nd our nlialrs or accounts. It will be a protection to these lndlans. surely the ficlcl ag[...]e made n <.'<>ntract t o \Vade EIits nod It shows a dnte of approval by the Interior Depart• ment t[...]elieve that there findings In their receipt., wns a tact. \\'o would ask your good ofilce tor a t avornble reply, or to ln.-cstlgate tbese[...] |
| [...]ecretary. , The i11ecti11g wns caHed to order a t 1 p. m., by Mr. Rhodes. .mgMr.our' Rhodes ex1il[...]econded by Andrew o·nrigbt lhat this council, by a tribal contract, vest full nu1hority in our clelc[...]R. A. Rnooo, Ohair-man.[...]creta1"1J. Nonce FOR A OENl.'RA_L COUNCIL This citizen band of Pottaw[...]erior clahn $853,000, more or less. \Ve. ll ndlng a11<1 |
| [...]eus the further pupose of the council Is to elect a new set of business committee and tribal re1>rese[...]e minutes of the council shows by various ones In a general remark. Peter Bourassa, Shawn[...]; Nicholas \Vllux; Mos~ Bronu; P. A. Rodd; Jas. Wakolat; o,.ettn Sanders,[...]Robert Davis. We only hope to see a bill before this Congress nod give ns the opportu[...]HOYE l'OR THf. OU> AGf:, NOT A PENSION' 'l'bese t.ypes of old age are not nbl[...]octors, nurses' care, clothing, pro1ier food, nnd a comfortable |
| [...]PETER T. BOU8A8SA. Ho>l-01"able Senator an4 -oo,nn,ittee: H<morab/.e s,mator a,u1, ·oo,nmlttee: |
| [...]te. They must get along somehow In many Instances a bard row • • • . \Ve would ask this age[...]n the farm home nod we had our school, but all of a sudden this was closed. Our people, In a :;eneral way, nil worked. They entered the county[...]r return student. '.l'he present noncmployment is a se1·ious mutter nmong us who deperuJ on labor for our living. Now, there is a clnss o( Indian who n,·e,t on these lnnds and de[...]son gets to them, Let 90me of their fnrrus go for a season and plnnt black-eyed 1>eas for fertilizer to be J>lowed under at a certain time of year. These farms and homes are v[...]each locality such the Pottawatomies, Kickapoos, Sac and Fox, Shawnees, they would beuefit each pince[...]Sweetpotntocs, cow peas. let the cotton go, it Is a ,·ery poor crop. Surely, we are asking tor good[...]n U1elr fnrm and will help them to plant 11nd get a good crop so they cnn get nlong better. I nssu[...]will be years before they cnn get right. \Ve bad a good Instructor here on,-c but he got away from u[...]mutter of tact, that homes are not complete with a good 1-story b11ngn- lvw style house from three t[...]ould be not less the proper estimate of material. A solid concrete toundntion and center wall[...] |
| [...]by 5--0 side and Inside casing band dressed, sc1·a1>e<1, and sanded, nil Jlnish inside ready for var[...]in or gl'l\\'ed heavy galvanized iron or best he.a vy tin. Rig roll cah·e lnsl<le wall ,,1aster or[...]ed s~•·aped before pointing or calsemined or 1>a;>ered. 'l'o get good results have Inspec- tion of[...]Indian gets the reut money and theres just about a livin;; iu it and he is idle !rom one end of the year to the other. The Indi:ins of this loc.a lity welcome you and ,u·e proud of such event. \[...]In the llrst 1>h1cc the (;oYCrumeut bas spent a Jot of money to educ.'lte tho Indians nn<I to tea[...]re ide to-clay. 'l'hcy cua not get employment for a very slmr,le reason, the white h•borcrs nre pre[...]l to tl,e Go,·eromcnt of the United Stutes. \\"e a~k tbem lo comply with our treut ie,; and p[...] |
| [...]1tativcs arc lncnpable to hold this office. Tiley a rc posltlYely iucompCtcut. There is an appropri[...]ntatives Is that the Pottawntomies bnYe never hnd a full and complete settlement of their all'alrs wi[...]s at Shawnee Town, Okla. Ou the 25th dny of June, A. D. 1890, A. F. Navarree Informed tlie Cherokee commission th[...]ing granted by the following Congress It was mnde a subject matter and referred to the Court of Claim[...]Citizen Pottawatomie Indians. Since the death or A. I,'. Navarre hnve had oo- representat1,·[...] |
| [...]eve that it is for the Interest of the tribe that a home should be secured for them in the Indian cou[...]ile there Is yet opportunity for the selection of a suitable reservation; and Whereas tlic tribe h[...]$160,000 besides atorneys' tee. This $160,000 was a gilt but before our people could get It this $20,[...]of the Interior, rendered an opinion to Hon. F . A. "'aU<er, then Commissioner of Indian Affairs, to[...]liver to the Cltlzen Band of Pottawatomie Indians a patent for u,e 30-mlle square tract set apart for[...]nt described In accordance with the provisions of a treaty between the United Stntcs and tJ1e[...] |
| [...]Nl'l'J:;V STATES and proclnlmcd Aur;ust 7. 1868. A.n d whether or not u,e Unltecl States did retain[...]d by the United States to which said Indians have a legal It Is further agreed ns a further and only additional for such relin[...] |
| [...]ee, Okla., agree and transfer this money to Frank A. Thackery, United States Indian agent here nt thn[...]payments of money does them no good; au spent In a few days. Otherwise, this would be a protection to our old age who are sick and out of[...]her contend or argue that this amount $122,000 as a matter found in the record In the Treasury[...] |
| [...]1'he committee met, pursuant to call, at 8.80 a. m., the honorable Lynn J. Frazier ( chair1nan)[...]razier, Pine and 'l'hon1as. Also present: Mr. A. .A. Grorud, special assistant to the sub- committee, and Mr. Nelson A. Mason, clerk of the committee. THEODORE HAURY was called as a witness and, after being first du!y sworn testif[...]FRAZIER. You belong to ,vhat band of Indiansi A-fr. H AURY. The Arapahos Southern Band, known as[...]r. HAORY. Yes, sir. Senator FRAzrea. Have you a tribal council down there¥ Air. H AURY. '\Ve have got a local council. '\Ve cooperate with the general council here. Senator FRAz11:R. You are a member of that council t Air. HAURY. Yes sir.[...]me. The office in Washi.ngton is seemed like give a patent to what t hey think were competent[...] |
| [...], so they had to sell this land, you might say at a sacrifce. genator PINE. Did you go before the[...]ny other Indians¥ Mr. HAURY. There were quite a number of them around here. Senator PINE. ,ver[...]RY. Yes, sir; Bull Bear, Benton, and myself-quite a Jot of them dead now. Senator FRAZIER. "\Vere there as many as a dozen¥ i\fr. HAURY. Yes sir. ' Senator PIN[...]URY. I am farming. Senator FJ1AZlER. You have a Government farmer in your district¥ Mr[...] |
| [...]ools they got. Senator FRAZIER. Are there quite a lot of your Indians that do some farining1 l\fr. l-1.au RY. Quite a few have land. They do the best they can. Senat[...]ll{r. HAURY. Sorne horses. Senator FRAZIER. 'A nv hogs? l\fr. HAURY. No, sir. • Senator FR[...]got some chickens. Senator FRAZrER. Do yon have a nulk cow at all 1 l\<!r. HAURY. No.[...]you doing at the school¥ l\ir. H 11unY. I was a. herdsman at that time. Senator FRAZIER. After[...]how the Indians ~re. They get the bighead once in a ,vhile. They feel bi"' and "ive away-- Senator[...]e there many sick people! Mr. H AURY. Sometimes a.n epidemic goes through there and fre- que[...] |
| [...]round your con1- munitv "0 t-0 school 1 Have you a public day school there 1 iVIr:fuuRY. \-Ve have got a public school in town and son1e of them go down t[...]o break the orders of our chair- man, but since I a1n here I would like to say son1ething. Sennto[...]to work. I used to find the sa1ne heaters. I nn1 a night watchman. They were out of con1mission at t[...]e are nbout th ree of thern nee to be replaced or a power house put in nnd pipes that goes to[...] |
| [...]buy stock, ~uch as cows, implements, and to build a stable, SOJnetlung to work with. Senator FRAZIER, \Veil, bas your wife asked the superintendent for a statement of her account as to how 1nuch money sh[...]\fr. HAURY. We asked the assistant farmer once in a while. He ke~s tab the best he can, and that is a[...]een promised that sjnce last spring, ,vhen we had a council here at ,vigwam. We were told the[...] |
| [...]ut one-- Crooked Foot. Senator PINE. .Are there a number of others out in this countryf l\{r. HAU[...],iclw, Okla., Jar,uarv :il:ll, 191!9. Co~uuss10:n:a 01--- INDIAN AF'PA.IRS,[...]DEAR MR. Co,u11ss10:sER: " ' e hnye hnd quite a number of denths .t1h·C11dy this fiscnl year and we had a great many deaths prior to tbis fiscal year, and[...]y, Okla., which would probably keep him there !or a Jong period, ,[...]ibes, which was held in El Reno· on -January 17, a resolution was passed by the couocll Ins tructing[...]ter of hnvirig an examiner detailed be.re as soon a~ possible to clear up the cases- wbkh are now hel[...]is agency upon which the general council 11aa,;cd a resolution to• reqncst the Commissioner[...] |
| [...]istrict, I have to advise thnt I nm in receipt of a Jetter from the Indian Office in which It ls stat[...]floors and the boys' dormitory needs floors and a toilet in the second story for the small children in the winter- ti1ne especially, and a bigger hospital. I ,vent in the hospital and loo[...]et 1ne «o any place. I had to stay there. I had a big carbuncle here and 1: can not stay here. Some[...]oed ,vhere the boys arc. 'l'hey fixed tne roo1ns a little different. l\{r. GRORUD. You are speak[...]t just what I look nt. In cnse like I said, I see a patient there, we would like to have more room fo[...]for boy patients. Senator FRAZIER. Have they a Government doctor there at the hospital1[...] |
| [...]as be knows them, being on the regular council ns a delegate. Senator FRAZIER. Tell him to make it as briefly as possible, because we are in a hurry. The I NTERPRE'rER. H e states he is gla[...]esent ,vith the co1nmittee of the Senate, who hns a duty itself to investi~ate Indian conditions, and[...]s co1nmit.tee thnt he had in mind it \\•ould be a great pleasure to him to have the ei..-perience o[...]ate of Oklahoma the Cheyennes and the Arapahos as a tribe of Indians, as he knows t,hem, are in fact[...]and the Arapahos, the vlieyennes and Arapahos as a combined ti·ibe need a Jot of assist- ance, a lot of encourngen1ent, and need in general a better super· vision by the department wh[...] |
| [...]S IN UNITED STATES 7215 He snys a con1mittee s~h us you n1en represent nnd the offi[...]st of the treaties his father was involved in as a representa ti ve of the tribe. So fa1·, he says,[...]; t hat 1s, educate the Indian, c1v1hze lnm.J and a~lvance hi,n in the "·ays of the white man. He sa[...]ght where his father is buried. It is nothing but a co,v pa~ture that the Govern- 1nent supcrvi~es an[...]s I ,nnke to the _Department of the l!)- lenor as a tribe for my need and for ,ny relief they have be[...]e no 1neans or no finances to assist 1nysclf ·as a tribe to see that those cases arc forwarded where I can reach to a.conclu~ion. H e says as it is I a111 just hopeless. H~ SJ1ys 1ny re1uest for the tl[...]ne and give tne satisfa ction by financing him as a tribe. 1-le further states that he wants to m[...]he must be encouraged. I-le says that th ese Indi'a u fairs that 2r,1(;:-,-:} l - PT I i,-37 |
| [...]roduce to be brought to these fai rs. That in a ,vay encourages the Indians in more ,vays tow[...]earn 1nore and use 1nore of my re- sources for a livelihood by educational training I receive thro[...]t to encourage JJ1y chi ldren to be e~ucated to a hi~her state of dcveloprnent, and there- fore I[...]rn. He states he does not make trips but once i11 a great while. Senator FnAZlER. They haYe a Governrnent farmer over there1 The lNTERPRETEII, He states that they have a Government farmeJ· located near Canton, but that he is a type of man that is slo" ' and that is neglectfu[...]1 The INTERPRl.TER. H e has been there about a year. Senator FRAZIER. Just about a year1- The !Nn:11P11ET1:n. Yes, si r.[...] |
| [...]hey had there before,this rnan Thompson came ,vas a man by the named, of MitcheJI, who is now located[...], The IN°,rERP!!t:r£R. Mitchell was a man that actually did his duty, ns big n. field as he had to cover in that big a country. Mitchell was actinl? nt nil t.i,nes in b[...]'rr.R. He st:1tes that he feels that Mitchell was a man t,hnt actually wanted to help the Indians.[...]ge1 'fhe I N1'ERPR'&'.11'.:Ji. Be st-ntes that a good many of the student$ that: attended '[...] |
| [...]nt, Calumet and vVeatherford. Senator Pun:. ·A re there 1nore of the1n at Cantonment than any other pince 1 'l'he INTt:RrRt:rf:R. As a group he says there are a whole lot moro a~ Ne w Canton1nent dist l'ict than any other settl[...]im the Government has appropriated money to build a hospital for the Cheyennes and Arapahos. Ask hirn[...]the districts were represented, he says he rnade a statement, as well as by others of the Indians, t[...]e of the hospital. Senator PINE. H o,v many as a group were represented at that council 1 The[...]s, all the districts ,vere duly notified. He says a quorum was present of the districts to properly carry on a council meetin_~, and t hey had ex·p ressed them[...]to be discussed there. Mr. PrNE. Did they take a vote on the 1natteri The INTERPRETER. H'e says there was a vote taken for this -con- clusion. That is the po[...]Arapaho Tr1bes; matters of that kind are taken to a vote. H e says that is the action of the council[...]Cheyennes and Arapahos Indians last year drew up a petition setting forth the desires of that[...] |
| [...]cused.) Senator FnA.ZIEn. Do you ,vant to make a statement to the com- rnittee in place of Mr. Ha[...]other point I have in mind. I would like to see a larger time allotted to the council here so they[...]what they ,vish to present to the cornmittee now. A. number of our people are !?resent to present mat[...]ng to the district local organizations which 1eld a general council at Thon1as, Okla., on the 21st day of October. It is a s,u mmary of the general report ~ve are getting o[...]ill place these statements right in tho record as a_part of the hearing. (The documents referred t[...]EL RENO, Olli.A,, Novet>il>er 20, 1930. \Ve, the Cheycll ne an[...]rs or your Committee on Indian Al?nlrs are making a tour ot the various Indian agencies with a view ot bettering the conditions and ad- vancemen[...]r great 8 PPteclatlon for tbe school we hnYe, and a ssure you that our children would |
| [...]priations for the purposes above recited and tl1e a<lvancement of our Interests your more fnvorable a[...]gating committee of Washington, D. C., at \Vatoni:a, Okla., on April 17, · 1930: Little Raven, Arapa[...]a.; Crooked Nose, Cheyenne, Hammon, Okla.; Jacob A. Runner, Cheyenne, \Vea th• ertord, Okla[...] |
| [...]OL-BUIX,OYNO IMPROVEMm-'IS \Ve nttnch herewith a report of the conclitlous of our school nt Concho[...]cil after The decision of the tribal counci[...]ed hospital on account of the elevation, where we a lso The[...] |
| [...]TES $6,000 $ET A$.lOU The trlbnl council hereby fur"1er recomm[...]$5',000, either |
| [...]g, baggage room, reading. and study room, etc. In a school ot •thls size It is ,•ery desirable to[...]ld have rooms for quarters not to exceed three In a room. The horse barn Is Inadequate. \Vh ile it[...]25 milch cows regularly nud probnbly should have a few more. Au addition for dairy cows Is much need[...]d inspected the hospltnl and, no doubt, will have a report to submit •making any suggestions tbat t[...]of great help to this depart• ment and would be a sa,·lng of rue!, as tho other Irons bnve[...] |
| [...]recommends that ·this department Is In need of· a -bigger refrigerator in order,to keep the food[...]ieve that -more .room In refrigerator :would be a sa v!Jlg both o.f Ice and of food products. Th'e[...]the plastering bas fallen oft and ,brings about aa reservoir; and the top ot •thls reservoir is covered with a loose door and It ls •not fastened. Your commit[...]e catching an·d obsertlng ~uch as· grasshoppers a'ld butterflies. Our folks are Interested In the[...]r'eports; 'uul~ It would be a 'good lhlpg'to do 'to lin-:e l;ID emerge'!CY tu1,[...]ed with encb patient's bed so' tbat It' can press a button an"' . cnll the[...] |
| [...]people. It gives our cblldreu the advautiiges of a practical home education. It makes better men of[...]. , H.a.MMON, Cheyenne Indian Connell helcl Henry Crook[...]and tells tbe lndian farmer ot his desire to sell a tract of land that he can purchase teams o[...] |
| [...]s!• ncss ls completed, when It would take only a few minutes te transact said business. 'l' hl s[...]OROOKD> :-i0$E IIcury Crooked ~ose says that a hospital is soon to be erected for tl1e |
| [...]liat if anything comes up about our farm.er, Mr. .A. )'; Routh, I will be willing to re1>ort him: We are trying to lh-e a farm life and work. Mr. Routh ls pretty bard to d[...]d been t reated by every known physician here nnd a t every city where doctors were, but at nil of th[...]In Oklahoma. ,ve i,re In need • !or and ln{medl.a te relief. · A request Is tlrnt n field matron bo a_ppolnted tor the )nd.ls1ls ot this district. Our[...]e of the lndlans ot Oklahoma. We do uot wnnt such a Change to be mode at this time. The Indian Uureau[...]n to Ute hoopltnl nt El Reno, Anotl:\e.r Instance a hoy ot mine took sick and I hod the boy ta[...] |
| [...]reated, but the doctor advised thnt the boy go to a sanitarium at anoU,cr p0lnt. This I refused to do[...]avor of Clinton ns an Ideal site for the Cheyenne a nd Arapaho Indian hospital, because It can be eas[...]stified as follows : Senator FRAzn:n. You have a st.aten1ent you want to make to the con1n1i ttee?[...]d 1· ALFR.:o "\Vu,SON was thereupon called ns a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testif[...]ese people do you represent? ·Mr. Wn,SON. I am a Cheyenne Indian. Senator Fn4z1ER. Are you a member of the business council 1 ?,,[r. Wu.soN[...]the tribal council. Senator FRAZIER. You have a statement you want to make to the oommittee1 Mr. "\Vn..soN. Wel'.i_ I want to make just a brief statement. Senator FRAZIER. uo ah[...] |
| [...]e stated that at the cotincil meetin~ nt 'l'homas a vote was taken on it as to where the locaJion of[...]se thnt that was not the . proper place. They had a hospital there and they had >l hospital over bere[...]very desii:able .that the hospital be located in a place rnore accessible from all sides of the rese[...]l i l\:lr. 'IVILSON. No; because that was not a final decision. Senator FRAZlE!!. Ho"' far is[...]ican Legion. They were talking about establishjng a hospital at the Cantonment school, taking tho Canton1ncnt school and establishing a hospital. Mr. RowwooE. I asked Little Raven. as to the vote that was taken at the council and he was a li ttle bit confused ns to that. lie says at the tune tl1ey made that decision he says they voted nnd drew a petition that .tl1e hospital be located at Canton[...]s cottncil. 'l\Ir. vVnMN. He has reference to a local council. 'rhat is the reason I broug[...] |
| [...]e1 i\1r. ,¥11.soK. No. ,ve figured they have a hospital at Concho, one at Shawnee, nnd one nt L[...]e they reside. Senator PINf:. 'l'he State has a tubercular sanitarium out at Clin- ton. has it n[...]SON. 'l'he State has; yes, sir. Senator PINE. A.re the Indians adrnitted to that hospital¥ i[...]itted there. Those that hnve Inoney were charged a s mall fee, I think. dian~. That has cornc up.[...]n- e had a ,nan from '\Vashington come here by the nnrne of[...]of liquor arnong the Indians, but I think it is a very neglected piece of business that t.be Ind·[...]too many of these linvyers and they get hold of a case and it is nil off. Sennt<•r PrNr-:. ,v[...]my opiniori, that the Indian Oflice could create a policy by whi ch the liquor question could be t4[...]ns bret the booze 1 i\'fr. \V11,.<;0N. I t is a question. It is all over. Senator P11-n:. Do[...]re .. If they cnn not get it, 't hey will go into a drug store nnd get rubbing nlcohol. Sena tor[...]d heat, extracts, and so forth. Of course, it is a ,natter that nobody can handl e, but it has come to be a very serious question nmon~ the Indians.[...] |
| [...]r two years. I ,vas aw.ay. I think if there was· a special law passed to take ca1·e of the prohibition arnong the Indians it would be a different thing from what it is now. Senato1·[...]ave got to do. Ove1· here at this agency we have a small clerieal force and, of course, they are beh[...]I think they could get along very nicely, but, as a ruatter of fact, I do not know very rnuch about t[...]lled 1 GE0Ro1: FRASS was thereupon ciillc<l as a witness and after being first duly sworn testifie[...]se bands of Indians? i1:r. FRAss. ,veil, I an1 a Cheyenne; a half Cheyenne; a half- breed. Senator F1:AztER. '7\7here do you live 1 ~Ir. FRASS. Calumet. Senator J,<'a,,zttR. How far is that from here 1 lfr. FRASS.[...]town or out in the country1 Mr. FRASS. I live a half mile north of town. Senator FnAzcr[...] |
| [...]Ass. No, sir. Senator FRAZIER. You farm about a hundred acres 1 i\[r. FnAss. About that.[...], , Senator FRAZIER. Have you got a pretty fair equiprnent to farm with 1[...]is what broke me. Senator 1'R aZIER. Have you a statement you want to make to the committee 1[...]sir. I nm one of the council1nen. You know it is a n1ightv hard year. There has been a drought, nothing raised 1n11ch. '\Veil, nowi sorn[...]oney for the Janu- ary payments! I tell you it is a serious proposition amongst some of the Ind.inns[...]ton low. The cotton grown was low. I am farm- ing a lot of cotton myself, and I did not make a dime on cotton. Senator FRAZIER. That, of cour[...]he next crop timei Scnntor F'RAzn:R. You think a good percentage of these Cbeyenniis and 1\rapahoe[...]dians do not have but about one good square 1ncnl a day and some of them do not have that. It[...] |
| [...]y. I send my kids t-0 the· public school. I am a taxpayer.,, I send my kids there to the public[...]ndian gets downhearted and quits, and there you a re. Senator PINE. Did a me1nbe1· of your council die yesterday 1 l[...]o.spit.al business. If the Govern1nent would put a hospital up herel why not put in one right, just like at Oklahoma City, a good hosp1tnl1 well equipped, fireproof, nnd take[...]ng the Indian, has not got money, can he not get a sur"'eon t , 1-fr . FRASS. Why, yes. I a~ spe~king about the ones that have not _got any m[...]any money, do :they die because they can not get a doctor t so.[...] |
| [...]RASS. I believe the Government ought to set aside a certain fund to be deposited at the agent's offic[...]ight there. l\'I r. Lemin con1es around. \Ve have a farm chapter and we a-re gettini along pretty nicely. Senator FRAzn:[...]t Mr. FRASS. Oh, yes. We are supposed to have a little chapter meet- in"' every week-every month,[...]nyt· l\'Ir. Fn,1ss. \Vhat we want is ,ve need a fe,v field n1atrons. We used to have them. Of course, the Government clone a,vay with them because they were no use, but now w[...]o our homes Senator FRAZTF.R. Have you not got a 6ela mntron1 l\'lr. FRASS. No, sir. We ~ave a county demonstrator, ,or something like that. She comes out once in a while, but the ;Governrnent field matron we need[...]gs like that. Senator FRAZIER. 1 tlunk that is a good thing. l\1r. FRASS. We need them r[...] |
| [...]TATES 7235 Senator F11Az1En. Have you a statement you want to make to the committee or[...]ou¥ 'fhe INTERl'RETER. He is goi11~ to make a statement. Senator Fn.1z1En. Make it brief. We are in a hurry to get over to .Anadarko. The INTERP[...]right. 'fhe INTt:Rl'lll.'TER. Look at me. I a1n 65 years of age. The United States Government[...]civilization, that thnt would help the1n to make a start and now that his father is gone nt his a!!e he is taking his fathe1.?s place and trying to[...]ne- fit of this treaty. 1'hcy are waiting for you a long ti1nc, Senators. 'fhey hnve been waiting pat[...]1oney for 1nore improve1nents and let thnt become a good school like Chilocco or Haskell; let it be one of our big schools in years to co,ne. It has a good location there. H e wants that. That is his[...]the hospital !s not what.it ought to be. He wants a surgeon. They want operat- 1ng conve111euces. They want to have a surgeon there that c:in operate. |
| [...]INDIANS IN UNITED STATES Senntor FR,\ZIER..A regular hospital? |
| [...]7237 Senator FRAZIER. That school was a boarding school, was it nott The INTERPRETER. Yes, sir; a boarding school. Senator FRAZIER. Any other s[...]nts to say. Senato1· FRAZIER. Do you Jive on a farm? 'Fhe INTERI'l!ETER. Yes, sir; he lives o[...]R. Does he do some far1ning himself? Does he have a. garden 1 '!'he INTERPRETER. Yes, sir. Sena[...]or F' Razu:R. Some horses¥ The INTEill'RETER. A couple of horses. Senator FRAZIER. Does the Go[...]Senator FRAZIER. Ho,v long has Thompson b€en a farmer there? The INTERPRETER. He came there a[...]not do that. Senator FRAZIER. l-Iave you got .a pretty good house on your aUotrnent 1 . The INTERPRETER. Well, he said he had a good house once, but it is getting kind of old. .[...]rpreter), as follows: Senator 'FnAZIEn. You are a Cheyenne? 'I'he I NTERPRf:Tf:R. Yes, sir. Sen[...]Okla. Senator F 11<\ZIER. Do you want to· mnke a statemen t to the com- mittee¥ · The INTERPRETER. H e says he wants to 1nakc a short stnterncnt, and he says ho hns bce11[...] |
| [...]has corne up that he has never under,yenj; for a long time. H e says his airn is to tell you wha[...]do that, but we have not the time. Oklaho1na is a bi; State, and .t here are a good many Indians here. We can not visit them a[...]claims in the Court of Claim.s, which is taking a very slow course-and also there is no way of gett[...]ands descending to them; that fai.ls to come up a long time, and the decision of the Interaior Depa[...]this coming year. Senator P L,.:. '\<Ve have a statement, prepared on April 21, which is signe[...]PRETF,R, Yes, sir. Senator FllAZII::R. Is he a Government employee t The I NTJIBPRJ.-n:n. No; he is not a Government employee. · Senator FnAzn:a. One ot the business council t The INn:RPR.ETl:Jl. He is a member of the tribal council; yes, sir. Sena[...], Senator FnAzn:11. There is a case pending before U1e Court of Claims[...] |
| [...]upon. '!'he Ind1nns hu vc to ,vait, and it takes a long time before they can ever hea1· frorn then[...]is right. The INTEIIPIIETEn. ;\Jso there is a fee charged on top of that, that tlie Indians do not want to pay. I think the exnminer charges him a fee. I do not know how it rs. Senator FnAzJ[...]e fee toi 'l'he INTt;1u•nE'IEn. '!'here is a certain fee that is taken out of the estate when[...]ehmes 1nore. On his mother's estate they cha rged a fee of $100. i1r. Gnonuo. Of $1001 '!'h[...]wants. H e wants you to kno"' that the Indians as a general rule now are having a very hard time. There could be no better time for[...]with the farmer all ri,,.ht. 'senator FnAZlER, A.11 right. That is all. ('Vitness excused.) |
| a. witness and, after being duly affirmed, testifie[...]eter), as follows: Senn tor l<llAZrER. You are a. Cheyenne 1 The INTERPRfrrt:n. Yes, sir. Se[...]R. About 120 1niles. Senn tor FRAZIER. You are a member of the tribal council. The INTERI'RETER. Yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. Have you a. statement you want to make to the committee ? The INn;RPRf:TER. Yes, sir. He wants to make a short statement. Senator FR,,zIER. Make it as[...]additional statement that the Indians have quito a bit of land here that probably should be l[...] |
| [...]the Indians do not like ?,fr. Routh because he is a little leery about takin~ up business in certain ways. H e wants to drinv a 1nap where n white man has fenced in over his lin[...]nator FRAzI.ER. ,ve1\, what are you talking about a fence fort What rrood "'oulcl a fence do in there t The lNn:RPRJrrER. There is no fence. It is a section line, but there is no fence. Senator FnAZIEII. '\Vhat good would a ' fence be¥ The INTERPIIE'l'ER. 'fhere is a crossing up there farther this way. The only way[...], Senator FnAZIER. '\Vhat good would a fence, be in there t 'fho INTERPRETER. Probably he, thinks they ought to open a road there. · Senator FR,\ZIER.[...]e it, but he keeps him off. He makes this kind of a trade with him: This white man is farming this piece of Jarrel. It· belongs to him and this white man hns a patch of ground on that side of the creek that he is using as a pasture. Senator FRAZIER. I s that a fair trade t The INn;RPRETER. H e think[...] |
| [...]Mr. ,vILSON. Yes, sir. Senator PINE. Are you a mc1nber of the educational con11nittee of the Axa[...]eetnbllsblng by the United States Gover11inent of a hospital for the Cheyenne and Arapaho Indians.[...]the Frisco rnllrood, Is 1,768 !eet. The city bas a tract of 15 acres within the c'lty limits, whlcl1[...]rate llmlts, new sewerage system, $100,000 grade ,a nd high school, which Is being attet,ided bJ 18 o[...]unity hall. new $6,000 flro truck, which gives us a ,·ery low Insurance rate, city pork, pave[...] |
| [...]1vushi11uton, D. a.: The Indians of u,e Clinton district assembl[...]ollowing: 1. l"ederal stipcr-vi81on of Indian a,Uoirs.-'I'hc Indians of U1is district wish to exp[...]stcr tbe Jndinn nffnir$ rttthcr tllnn to delegate a ny of s uch uuthorit.y to t11c State of Okloboma.[...]onth In our district. 3. District farmc,·. J. A. Re1111ick.-Our Indians are proud of their distri[...]ects. 4. Doo/or.-Our Indians have tried to get a Government doctor for 111a11y Years bot so far with no success. Doctor Brewster Is a good doctor, and docs 1111 he con, but his territ[...],gain res1,ectfully requests the consideration of a Government doctor to be located aL Clinton, Oklu.[...]0ar women have organized the home circle and need a field matron to assist tbem in this and ln women'[...]nd Arapaho Agency for !our years. This ls working a hardship 011 many of our people and makes It very dlfflcnlt for the bearing a!ter such a long Ume. '\Ve request that arrangements be made[...]arlngs'every six months. 7. Scllools.-We ne<?d a high· school with n full 4-ycar course on this r[...]aho Tribes . be permitted to lease their land tor a term or five years Cor cash con- sideratio[...] |
| [...]ire to be heard1 Mr. I{owLOOOE. I want to make a st-atement. I an1 deeply inter- ested in 1ny trib[...]RAzIER. What do you do nowi Mr. RowLOooE. I am a fal'lner by occupation. However, I do a lot of travel work, s uch as getting up oil lease[...]e held from time to time. Senator l•R.iz1En. A. Gover1unent interpreter 1 0[...]erstand their conclition and to represent them in a free and unprejudiced way as to departmental mana[...]of the office force of this agency under which we a re supervised/ but, on the other hand, I want to[...]nong them will prove or has proven. The Cheyenncs-A.rapahos are in a somewhat peculiar condition as to customs and way[...]s are endeavoring to be progressive, but there is a confliction right there that retards prog- •·e[...]ommended tlirough the department in the matter of a revolving fund which I thmk and which I tried to educate my Indian people to believe, woulci be a saving to the1n in the matter · |
| [...]n of those who are endeavor- ing to farm and make a livelihqod by growing stock and such resources th[...]~ I understand that appropriations 1nust be made a year before. As tile mutter stands or condit.ions[...]t this about covers the opinion of the Indians as a tribe in general. · H owever, we expect to fu rn[...]s put on by the school from time to time. But, as a matter of fact, the nuditoriu1n is used for a gymnasium as well. Things have to be changed to 1[...]1nes it is overcrowded. That, to 1ny mind, is not a ~oo<l education. Therefore ,ve think we ought to !!ave a separate nnct spacious auditori.um appropr[...] |
| [...]of us. Senator PINE. That Seger· school is a Cheyenne school, is it? l\<Ir. Ro,vLOooE. A Cheyenne-Arapaho school originally, but there a[...]ave observed that the f11rmer is restricted to an a1l0,v- ance in t.ra veling and visiting tlie India[...]an won1en. \Ve desire won1en who could get around a1nong the Indians and not put on an nir of doru i[...]the art of cooking and sewing, and in other arts, a.nd where the men could come horne and eat the foo[...]e last fair over at Fort Reno, where I was, I had a chance to see tne enti re camp at all times. I do[...]l\fr. Rowi.oDCE. An Indian fair con1bined witJ1 a county fair ancl the F'ort Reno polo tournament.[...].. Did any of the1n get drunk1 i\fr. Ro wLorx.a:. I never seen any of the soldier polo pl'[...] |
| [...]ep the boot- leggers Mr. Ro"'LODGE. There was a police force under the management of the[...] |
| [...]at the time Mr. Fiske was out here to investigate a si1nilnr matter I did not know ,vhat he was out for. ,The Indians voluntarily asked that a J,>Olice force be 1naintnined to keep drunk- enne[...]g pasture, where the Indians get, their meat once a year. '!'hey get tog_ether and live th~ old-time•lif!;I on the })rai,rio once more. 'fhese f,urs are a good tlung for then1 and they'.,vanti them to be[...]owLOOOt:. Yes, sir. I wnnt to say I believe it is a good thing for them, because the: Indians are so[...]not see each other very often. ' There they have a camp to hold a reunion and 1neet with one another nnd I would sa[...]e so1ne who are n1nbit1ous and ,vfio "'ant to get a little higher education. 'fhe others go back to t[...]ncho, or any other school, if they ,vant to go to a hi~her scl1ool, to l-Iaskell for instance, let th[...]' Senator .F1uzn:1:. H ere is a statement for the record fro1n the El Reno[...] |
| [...]Including all necessary equipment__ 10, 000, l)lg a series of new wells, to repair and further equip[...]f proper size for 2 pupils In each room, having a capacity for GO bOys, Including 1>urcb4se of 1t[...]or in the Cheyenne an,I Arapnbo boarding. school. a t Cone.ho, and a1>1>roxlmately J70 at the Seger 1Joardh1g school at Colony. 1 There will be a sutllclent number ,·, r nenr the ft1ll blood chi[...]of many of them will necessarily be neglected. ID a number of !be public schools where lndlnn Childr[...]the Jndinn children who may ,Htend these schools a chance to tnkc the ninth g rn,le it will be ncces[...]nts arc not able to pay their expenses In school$ a wny from home. ~ . The new constr[...]capaclt.y of, the. school. but to bring It up to a well- balanced iustltntion where the children may be gh·eo the lld\"an lages which.I they should J1avc in a Government Institution of this klnd. 'l"b<l co[...]o Hol/'pllal. ~ cw· construction: To build a laundry and equipment____________________________[...]laced In !he l,onrdlng school commissary which Is a \"Cry unsn tls(nc- 1or~r nrra o~ement nud nnrwyln[...]nd brl<'k ve neer or s111cco. It ls believed that a l-s1orr conMrucUon either In a T·shnpe l)r ,, long buildln;: divided by a solid wnll using one S<!Ctlon for lnundry[...] |
| [...]y and hire the labor for construction, cm1>loylng a competent builder as foreman or superintendent of[...],vould like .to have been heard, if he will make a written statemen!z sending it <lown to )Vashingto[...], we will be glad to consider it and put it in as a part of our printed record. (At 11.30 o'clock a. m. the committee adjourned.)[...]Oo»ch-0, Okla., Jtu1uar11 !.5, 1930. Mr. A. A. GRORUD, Secretarv Senate Indian. I nvestiqa[...]ssible, and in order to -d o so, I have tabulated a.nd sclleduled a considerable part of the Information, marking th[...]J:¥PLOYtt8 El:biblt A will show the employees ot this unit, field and o[...]t will, of course, be understood that this Is not a |
| [...]ual Indian money and disbursements therefrom over a period beginning July 1, 1919, and ended June 30,[...]department $167,597.96 of tribal funds, which was a final distribution of such funds to Indians shown[...]ck raising, and those entering exhibits at county a.n d State fal.rs, Is complete In so tar as our records are n,-a llable. P rior to the year 1925 a great number of our Indians took an Inter- est In[...]hows Items exhibited by the Cheyenne and Ara paho a nd the Seger school at the 1929 fair, above refer[...]aHable. f.Dt10A'l'10N Exhibit F: This exhibit sllows t[...] |
| [...]slcians tor trachoma during the past ·liscitl y,-a ,·, ;12 positive cases and 83 suspicious cases w[...]- - ----~- 2 Detlths from influen:,.a pneumonia .. _______________________ ............[...]$llit.R1, located lmmcdlntety nt Concho, now hns a bed Ctll)llCity or 00 patients. The numbe r of J)[...]!or tuberculo.~ls but uow nll general cases nre a ccepted where hospitalization mny result benefici[...]lty hns been In- creased from 20 to 00 patients, a s above stated. 'fhe present value of the plnnt nnd equipment Is estimated at $38.500. A special etrort has been nnd Is now being mnde by[...]er diseases which might be beneUtC<I by hos- p1t.a11,.nt1on, to enter the hos1lltnl, and spednl ntte[...]hose found allllcted with trachoma. \Ve have a smnll hospital nt Seger ln<linn school, Colony, Okin., which hns,a ~apnclty or eight beds, l>Ut nt the present time[...]lon or the school pln111s ns token !rom <>or cost a c,,-.>unts . the capnclty or our schools.[...] |
| [...]hool. Exhibit I sehedules the vocations tnught a t both schools and the time devoted to the ,·ari[...]gcnernl health condll ions, number of demhs over a 10-ycar period, together with cnu:;c•s. whi<:h[...]school,; only. This tnb11h11ion has not been pre1>a1·ed for the reason the informntlon o.-cr that period is not oblll inable. "'hen a pupil Is sick and unable to attend school he is a[...]e or tbe other ot the hosplt:tls and treated, but a record as to the number or 1>11pils from the scho[...]I nformation necessary to the preparation of snch a schedule over the entire period of 10 years is no[...]g the exhibits made durlni: the tlscnl yen r 1929 a nd ls lncom1>lete, as no e!l:ort has previously b[...]. Exn_mtT A |
| [...]ded June 30, 1929: Indhtn work and C. oC 'l'. (A. nnd S.) 1929______ _________________ $3,[...] |
| [...]. Aa ~ No data.[...]a[...] |
| [...]HIBITS The Cheyenne and Arapaho School entered a noncompetitive e:rhlblt In tbe Cimadlan County an[...]is e:rhlblt contained n little less in the Hue of a rts and more in the line of farn1 products. The e[...]tbree entries In the Oklahoma State Fair and won a place for each entry In open competition as follo[...]wc chi/dre•• behceen aooa of 6 anti JS 11cars a& sho1011 by ichool cc-n.su.,. 191!-9, Ch[...]I S2 I 331 C b~)·ennc And A l'AJY.lho<l School. Concho .. . ..... . .... . .[...].. . .. . ... . . .... ..... ..... ...••.•. A mc ricon In , brn ln.slltutt . \\"fohitt1[...] |
| [...],vc hove one Indllln on the reservation who has a degree from college and eight who nre now attendi[...]Plant valuation, enrollment, a"4 ooat accovnt,[...],m Cbe~tnoe and A.rap&boe khool: , umber pupib e,.xamfoc[...] |
| [...]EXHIBIT J Che11ennc a,uL Arapahoe 8Chool l£vcgtock Olt ha1ul, 1[...] |
| [...]ArapahOe sch:ool livestock on hand, 1)14rchased, a11d sold for the /18cal 11ears ending a.a indlcated--Contlnued .[...]tt,cal 11ear ' ending aa-211-1--,•.-m[...]3 i6.00 Chlckea.a.............. ......... . ..... .... .....[...] |
| [...]7. Income of Indians under Ibis jurisdiction? A, Farming and grazing lenses? $217,139.54. B. O[...]pahoe Hospital? 13: nuniber of these who are Indi.a ns, 7. 15. Number of em1>loyees or Seger India[...], Jenline Bonnin (Indian), C. W. Ruckman, Oliver A. Farrell, Rose 0. Arvan (Indian), Amelia Ruckman,[...]nna Johnson. Field, 12. William T. Dias, Edwin A. Kellenm. J. E. Goss, \Villiam O. Mitchell, 1i'rank Hamilton (Indian), James A. Rennick, \Villiam B. McDaniel, Albert F. Routh,[...]Eichor, Neille Sen·os, l\lnrJorie Martin, Louch·a Wyman, Bertha B. Corbin, Henrietta Ioknnlsh (Indi[...]V. ·Meador, i\lyrtle l\lendor , David w. Miller, A. V. Crotzer (Indian), Bennie Delaware (Indian), M[...]ne (Indian), Frnnk E. Pcncorc (lndinn ) . Morri,J A. Powell, William Engleoest (Incllnn), Myrt[...] |
| [...]A.11MM/co, 0 kla. The committee met at 2 o'clock[...]: Senators Pine and Thomas. Also present: Mr. A. A. Grorud, special assistant to the subcom- mittee, and Mr. Nelson A. Mason, clerk of the com1nittee. Senator Fru.z[...]to be heard that it has kept us busy and made us a little late in keeping some of our engagements. This hearing is held under authority of a resolution adopted by the United States Senate, a[...]Is loca ted 1 mile north ot Anadarko, Okla .. on a Gov- e rnment rCt;CrYe containing npproxlm[...] |
| [...], Su1ier!ntendent Indians I and ad- ~. ' A. K, and , C. 14 pe,r .cent, ~ und. minist[...]mlnlstrntlon Indian property, A. K. and C. 4 per cent fund, 192[...]s Iocnted 1½ mUes ,south of, .Anada~1<0, oud bas a capacity tor 130 pupils. ,The scboPI plant and fa[...]west o! the Klo.va Agency . .. Thia school •ias a ,cnpac!lY.,!Or i70 pupils. The employees o[...] |
| [...]--- ------- -- $26,990.68 Funds as follows: A. K . and C. 4 per cent fond, support, 1929.[...]nd on the Kiowa Reservation Is 496,336 acres. The a verage allotment contains 160 acres, al• though ·some tracts of trust land contain 40 acres and a few cont.ain even less. 'l 'he ar<>n of allotted[...]The census roll completed Jone 30, 1929, showed a populntlon of 5.30!. It Is estimated. that 6,300[...]0 to 1924, lnclush·c, have not been kept In such a manner as to show an accurate account of funds receive<! on royalties, bonuses. and otber gas activities. A correct record ltas been kept on oil activities f[...]1029, Inclusive, sho"ing royalties, bonuses. etc. A schcclulc show• Ing oil activities for these ye[...]Bonuses Rent.al I no,a1t1e.< Adv-onood[...]1.092. 20 ,o. 8-19. u 11,6i4.2Q A schedule of the nu.nun! receipts and dlsburseme11[...]d livestock 1mr- |
| [...].• 9, (A)O[...]. . ' 'l'here was a considerably increased effort during the year 1929 in the Indians' agricultural ncth·ltles, but due to a poor crop year the Increase iu value ot products[...]he Indlnns. The Iudians ha1·e been exhibiting a small amount ot their products at tbe loent nncl[...]. For n number of years Joseph Knulaity, a Kiowa Indian, has taken first prizes at the local[...]mber of seeond prizes on hi s Poland China bo.;s. A 11UJ11ber of other Indians have been exhibiting t[...]o the exact number of exhibits we have no record. A numbe r or the Indians who won prizes at the Indi[...]tn Indian \Vomen·s Club, spousored by )Jrs. Mnry A. \Vllkin, hair-time field m1)tron, took llrst pri[...]ize Oil canned meats, fr uits, and vege,ables. A home demonstration agent was appointed for tl1ls[...]negie, Okla. \Vben the clti1.ens of Cnrncgic held a local fair the lndlan women, sponsored by the hom[...]On a general fan:u display Frank MonotobOy w1\~ awarde[...].nst ran n few of our Indians won first prizes on a few exhibits at the Oklahoma State 1''alr.[...] |
| [...]726\J The foregoing shows a list of Improvements, household goods, livestock,[...]ians of this reservation for the past five years. A home-Improvement campaign, as well as one to provide cqui1>meut, was started on this reservation a little more than seven years ago.. There have[...]during the past seven years. \Vhlle there Is not a home tor every family, at the same time, I do not[...]Is an Indian family on the reservation living in a tent 01· tepee for the reason I.here Is no dwelling in which they might live. Quite a number of homes have been constructed with funds[...]e funds with which to provide homes or equipment. A few tracts were sold to provide funds for medical[...]belonging to these- :is Indhms was leased in such a manner as to p1·ovlde the funds for homes, due t[...]e funds have nor. yet been obtained In nil cases. A few years ago the policy was initiated to !Ja,·e[...]pro,•lding house• hold goods and ~ulpment, Is a very Important one. These expenses should be· me[...]ge and hcaltl1 In school. Fre<Jucntly It would be a mon th or two before the Government schools were |
| [...]ns fill these schools with their children now, as a rule, withiu three or four d11ys after tl1e open[...]rt Sill Apaches were added to this number, making a total of 8,798. The populutlon, as shown by our[...]tion at this time would be 5,450. This would make a gain In population during the twenty-eight and a half years of 1,652, or a 43 per cent increase. A steady increase in populallou Indicates, on the w[...]However, I will say thnt this does not lnd.lcate a true percentage, for, as a rule, the ones examined were the ones who bad som[...]propriation and the allowance of additional help, a general survey ot eye conditioDS hns been made of t11e reservation and two field nurses are treaUng a large number of those found to be affiicted with[...]in, eye, car, nose, and throat specialist, made a special campaign tor a period ot tour months in locating Indians who w[...]rachoma and other eye trouble and bas operated on a con- siderable number. The field nurses are giv[...]ndians on the reservation have been aOlicted with a social disease. Every e1Iort is made to locate[...]e progress or nd,·,111cement made by the Indians a long health lines bu s been good. '£be influen[...]e year 1921. The twernge nttcmlancc in 1028 was a little better than 44. '.!.'he number of mnJor[...]f the seven tribes on this reser•ntion . A special campaign has been on for the p,q s t few[...]d in most ca ses. The physicians and lleld nurses a rc in other ways endenvoring to cnrrr into effe[...]J. A. n u:--.T1N.[...] |
| [...]you be furnished at th8 eatlle$t con• venlence a statement of tribal funds In tbe Treasury of the[...]by years from 11115 up to the- present time, also a statement of lndlvldunl Indian money on deposit I[...]The five per cent tribal funds, which represented a lump sum of $2,000.000 the tltree tribes of India[...]ds. The rccoros h ave not been ke1>t here In such a manner as to enable getting correct Information c[...]respectfully, J. A. BUNTIN,[...]th h>II of Red Rh•er, Kiowa Coma.coho o.nd A~he Indians, Oklnhoma. ... . ..... l, 00$.[...] |
| [...]~ Judlons during tbe paet JO years. The eetlmated a,·e.roge cost ot u,ese auto moblle-3 would not ex[...]tn as re«1Pt8 f or t he calendar year J920. The ~a.son for the rtcelpt.s being much heavier thl8 yea[...].r1.1cts brlogJng o.s much as J t;iu,o per act\!' a.s b<>nuses-. The Burkburnett fleld was at ll8 height during this period of um·e, a.s wi,s the Walter1:1 tleld. This exflai n3 tbe In[...]normnl for tbat period of Ume. Tbe 1eors 1927 a nd 11)28 w eN: t1Jpecially good crop ,-ears. Tbl1 a~unt.s for the l.Dcrttee lo rt:c~IJ)ts. Tbe yen[...].h e po0rt'11t crop 1enn: thtrtfore receipts were a little Jen than tbose of tbt t wo prevtoue[...] |
| [...]A ,llldark-0, Okla,, ,J[ay 1, 1929. $1[...]and to my reply under date of Aprll 8 relative to a statement of funds, and I here- with inclose you a statement showing receipts, disbursements, and ba[...]ured from the Treasury Department. ns these funds a rc not hnodled through this office only ln amount[...]J . .A. B U NTIN,[...]lnd!vid11a/, ln<lio.n 111011ey atatement[...]t witness. Bon DUNLAP ,vas thereupon called as a witness, and, after being first duly sworn, testi[...]s about 18 miles. Senator FRAZIER, Do you hove a business council or tribal council 1 l\[...] |
| [...]u it in ,vritiug1 1\1:r. D U NLAP. I have here a resolution that we have already pre- pared becaus[...]ich Is an integral part of the Wichita and affill.a ted bands or Indians, desire to present the follo[...]rd· Ing school, lnclndlng nl.n tll grade. having a capacity of 300 pupils, and tbnt tills school be[...]e. The white people or Caddo County have employed a home- demonstration agent to help the white women[...]ned at Binger. Okla., In order to provide medical a11cntlon ror the Caddo Indlnns. Binger Is l[...] |
| [...]llans. V. FLOOD OOXTROL A.."iO TEURAOlNG Sugar Creek and its tributaries a1·e overtlowlng to such an extent that much ln 1024 a bill was passed by Cong.-ess allowing our people to file a suit In the |
| [...]TATES Prefcre11ce right of lcssee.-ThCl'e ts a regulution that In leasing Indlun lands To the S1.,-1sco,.unnE CF' i-ui:: $ 1-:~A'l·t; ColtMtTTEl: oN l~DtAN" AF1·.uas: |
| [...]men nml women who nre without n degl'ee have not a cbnnce iu securing positions nud turning out sati[...]ool course each year under the Kiown Ueservation. A considerable number or 1hese young men and women would go on and complete a college course If they were able to provide the n[...]able the young Indian men and women who t'Omplete a high-school co1n·ti(' or ,, course equal 10 1he[...]ason1 l\[r. DoNJ,AP. J 11st about one-third of a crop. Senator F11;1z1E1l. Just about one-third of a. c1·op? llfr. D oNL,IP. Y cs. sir. Senator[...]your bovs and "'«iris nil att.encl ·school that a1·e of school age?[...]ools 1 l\[r. DUNLAP. 'l'hcy would rather go to a Govern111cnt school; n1ost of thc1n. Senato!' FnAz11-:n. "\Vhy, would ~,ou s;1y, they would rather go to a Govcrn1nent school 1 l\fr. DuNr.AP. On this a[...]t pavs only the tuition. 'l'he other things, such a.5 clothing nnd food , t.i1ei pa1·cnts cn[...] |
| [...]is generally like most places. They h1,1 ve .a hard ti.n1e gl!tting to the hospital 1n case of s[...]he Government hospit:,i!s1 lir. l)uN1,A,P. Something like 50 milesj maybe a little more. Senator F.nAzn;R. Where is t[...]Senator FRAZ.I_g. 'iou think you should have a hospital semewhere in between here and there ,[...]is among your people t .~fr. DUNLAP. Q~ite a bit. Senator F,nAzu:a. Is there much trachoma-eye trouble 1 ~fr. D:o.N ~- Yes, .sir; a lot of that. · Senator FR,\ZIER. Have you a Government doctor that you can get ,whe,11 your[...]Veil, this Government doctor we got here is quite a ,ways to. Sometimes he has a whole lot of cases to attend to. We ,are up ther[...]doctor, •)vhom do you get¥ )Ir. DUNLAP. A private doctor. S;enator FRAZIER. Suppose[...]. of Indians -~vho do not have the money to hire a private doctor, will the doctor .co.me out anyway[...]~Ir. DUNLAP. I could not tell7ou. I do not know a thing about it. Senator PrNE. Have any o y[...]lf. Senator FnAzIEn. Did she stay there for a time9 Mr. D uNLAl'. She stayed there[...] |
| [...]ike they ought to. She said all they gave her was a couple of pills. That is all she was given.[...]e. She ,vent on the train or somebody took her in a car. Senator FRAZIER. Do you .know ho,v she c[...]ll concerned, but the way we look at it, whenever a Jis- trict farmer is employed among the I ndians "'e believe his duty is to go a1nong the Indians and show them how to work and ho[...]111ber. He has been t ransferred once and got to .A.pnche; then he ,vns transferred back. lie[...] |
| [...], Senator PINE. He is more of a field clerk than a farmer, then; is he?[...]at have been sold,? i\ir. D oN1~\P. Yes, sir; a :fuw. ,, Sen[...]t theirs. Senator 'f110)1As. They live nround a1nong their relatives and friends? ~Ir. Do,NL,[...]r to be furnished the Indians 1 l\fr. Du :-1,A r. No, sir; not in our country there is not. |
| [...]STATES 7281. Senator 'fuoMAS. The !a,v provides that t.l1e trust period ,vill ex- pire[...]Olt,\S, ,ve understand that your tribe has passed a reso- lution requesting that the trust period be[...]what it can to see that your lands are kept under a trust period, is that so 1 i\fr. DuNLAP. Yes,[...]s. ·As I understand the law, that can be done by a presidential order. · ~Ir. DuNI,AP. Y[...]it will toke any act, of Congre.s.,. l3y 1naking a proper sho,ving that you want it done why the dep[...]t know just the ntunber. ~early all of the1n fann a little. Senator P L.'IE. Do t hey raise garden[...]or PINE. Do they have cattle? ll'lr. D UN LAP. A few of them have. . Senator PINE. How many of then1 have milk cows1 i\fr. Du :-a.AP. \Veil, so1ne of thern have got one, s0[...] |
| [...]I have always thought it was his business to i:;o a.i·ound and tca'ch the Indians how to farm.[...]e doctors-the doctor around in Binger that is not a Government doctor- - Senator Fn,,zn:n. l·lave you a family? i\1 r. EDGE. Y cs, sit·. Senator[...]Senator FRAZIER. When you get sick you call for a regular physi- cian, not a Government man? iVIr. EocE. Not a1nong my fa1nily. Senator l"1NE. Your family i[...]1 i\Ir. Eooi:. No; I guess not; they give hnn a little medicine a time or two; but it does not do any good. Senator PINE. Can the boy see 1 :i\fr. EooE. }le can see a little. |
| [...]ong have you been here? l\fr. '\VAl'.ll'El!. A little over two years. Senator FnAzn:n. 'fwo[...]ator J!'11.<1z1E11. Has he ever been to school at a.ll? i'l:Ir. EooE. No; he never ,vent.. Se[...]ator FRAzreR. Have you tried to get this boy into a public school? Mr. EooE. No, sir. |
| [...]1niles. Senator PINE:. ,vhat do you do for a doctor when any of you r fa,nily "'ets sick 1[...]Senator FJL\ZJER. How far do you live from a public road 1 Do you live right on some road? l\frs. FISHER. Enck on a creek. Senator THOMAS.•-\.way fro,n the r[...]ad to your :house¥ l\'I rs. FISHER. .About a mile and a half, I believe. Senator TuoMAs. A mile and a half? Mrs. FISHFJl. l\{aybe a little closer. Senator T11o~rAs. I s there not a road runs right by your farm 1 l\frs. F1s11E[...]'Irs. FISHER. No, sir. Senator THOMAS. Is it a rough counti·y 1 l\frs. FISllEn. It ain't v[...]uEa. No. Senator 'fnOlI,\S, Have you ever had a doctor come out to see you 1 i\frs. Frsm:R. No, sir. Senator 'fEIOlIAS. Did you go to see a doctor? .l\frs. FISIIEB. Yes, sir. |
| [...]u keep chickens 1 11-frs. F1sHER. Yes, sir; a few. Senator F RAZIER. Some pigs f Mr[...]the I ndian school. This lady happened to have a house in .Apache, and we found that she could ver[...]ut 5 miles from town. i\ir. WALTER. She has a home in .Apache. 11:lt'S. F ISH.ER. I asked[...]I was behind in my dues and taxes on the house. I a,n back. i\ir. WALTER. We have an enr[...] |
| [...]S Senntor 'fuoi\rAs. You said thnt she hnd a home in Apache that |
| [...],;v Mr. ALTEJ!. I took 10 out of Fort Sill a little while ago; they wer~ too small; t hey were[...]they go to ? Mr. WALTER. They ·were close to a public school. I made it a point to find out if they could go to school and a fe,v of them were staying at home because they ar[...]the Anadarko school? Mr. ALTER. Well they have a full capacity. Senator Tno111As. They are runn[...]acilities and capacity for them1 i\1r. WALTER. A good many more. Senator THOMAS. How many would[...]hese youngsters- they can not be sent to Chilocco a·nd Haskell, can they 1 Mr. WALTER. No, sir.[...]l because I have not located them. \Ve have to do a little detective work to find t hem. A good rnany of thc1n have been kept out on[...] |
| [...]l'wo lots. Senator TooMAS. Two lots. Ho,v large a house? i\'Irs. F1.s111:11. About four rooms. Senator T.aOM AS. Was it a new·house when you bought itt Mrs. FisHER. Yes[...]OllIAS. You paid $2,000 for it 1 Mrs. F1s1rr.R. A thousand dollars down and the rest- Se.nator TH[...]use your own money to make this first pavrnent of a thousand dollarst ~Irs. Fism:ri. Yes, sir. Se[...]. Senator THOMAS. They knew you paid $2,000 for a 4-room house on two lots in 1\pache. '\Vha[...] |
| [...]ir. Senator THOMAS. Does he threaten to bring a suit and foreclose t Mrs. FISHER. Yes. Se[...]get for it for three months? Mrs. FISHER. $20 a month. Senator THo~rAs. Since you have owned t[...]v much was the loan when you made itf How much of a loan did you get on it originally! ?!:£rs. FIS[...]No, sir. Senator THOMAS. Do you think you made a bad dealt ?iirs. FISHER. Yes, sir. Senator TH[...]Who did you buy the house fro,nt ?ilrs. FISHER. A man by t),e name of Hi Eddy. |
| [...]s of land. They ,vanted to buy the land. He makes a pretty .good appearance. H e has the appearance of a white n1ao. He is a good worker. 1'hey represented they wanted to get[...]he check ,voulcl have been dra"'n to her. We have a restrictmg clause in there against alienation; ho[...]now. Senator 'fno~IAS. So you consider this is a case where the I ndian has 1noney and they procee[...]king investments? Mr. BUNTIN. They m.ight have a hundred dollars or $200 or $300, and he may go ou[...]r the policy. Senator TnOlIAS. You say you are a restricted Indian t Mrs. Fisu.ER. Yes,[...] |
| [...]n and look up· th is deal and help this lady, I a1n sure it ,vill be appreciated. Mr. BUNTIN.[...]epte1nber. I did last year. Senator FnAZIER. A year a~o. Was that when l\'f r. Walter took the1n ho1ne[...]ought them home. , Senator FRAZIER. A year ago, or last September? l\frs. FISHER. No; a year ago. I did not send them this year .. They n[...]. FISHER. He told me that the school was full for a while. There was an Indian in there said it was n[...]ey had good home condi- tions and they ,vere near a school. Senator FRAZIER. H o,v near school?[...]t be any too far. Senator FRAZIER. '\'Vas not a limit set in your instructions ns to how far they[...]che. They hnd been in the Apache school for quite a ,vhile. . Senator THOMAS. Have you n copy of th[...]nd it. Senator 'I'Ho~rAs. '\'Vil! you send us a copy of that 1 Mr. WALTER. Yes, sir. |
| [...]AIJrER. That is what she says. At that time I had a good deal on my mind, and I can not remember jus[...]in this year than any time before. They made it a point to be there 11bout the first day. While sh[...]k that way to them. Senator P.nIE. Are there a good many cases of this kind in your jurisdiction here 1 Mr. WALTER. There is a good deal of it. There are quite a num- l>er of cases now that are not in school, b[...]l\frs. FR,\NK CussEx was thereupon called as a witness and, after being first du ly sworn testi[...]CusSEN. Yes, s1r. Senator FR,\7.Il:R. Are you a member of one of the Indian bandsf Mrs[...] |
| [...]taking t11e liberty oC making this compl:1int o! a personal nature before your committee. I am a member oC t.be C.~ddo Tribe of I.bis agency. I have two children- a boy and a girl-that I have tried two different times to get[...]esight and hearing: he nlso received nt that time a compensntlou or $lo a mout11. With this lotormntion Mr. Buntin promised[...]· I beg that the subcommittee gh·e me a fair consideration on nw cornrlnint nnd se[...] |
| [...]Bu:sni,. The custon1ary procedure is to fill out a blank forn1, which shows the names of the parents, the degree of Indian blood, how far they live from school-a little information in ·t hat way. T hen the appl[...]ve 'been going to the city school and live within a to,vn to endeavor to· keep the1n there and to &i[...]particular case because he has nearly co1upletecl a course to have hi111 crowd out full bloods. I sen[...]nnd the Fort Sill boardin~ school and that within a clay or two or a dny and n half. T hey had 2v beyond thei r capaci[...]ols like Chilocco and Haskell is _in pursuance of a policy laid down by the I nd.inn Bureau at ,vash1[...]. Senator PINE. , ve were at Chilocco and sa,v a group of small children that should have b[...] |
| [...]e of blood they arc. but if I would see the1n in a white iroup, f ,vould not expect they had any In[...]the expense of the Government unless it be fron1 a gratuitous aJ?propriation. It has to be a tribal fund if they are educated fron1 1t. 1'here[...]. Is this wornnn correct \l•hen she says she is a three- quarter blood Caddo? 1fr. BUNTIN. H er fnthcr I used to see once in a \l•hile. It has been a Ion" time ago. He was killed by a bunch of ruffians that can1e over here. Her rnother hns everv appearance of aa patent. 'The restrictions are removed, so that ma[...]d turned them loose? !\'Ir. BUNTIN. 1'hey had a regular policy. Did you ask for a patent? 1irs. CuSSE,.'1. No. n•fr. BuN[...]land in fee 1 11r. lluNTIN. I believe that is a n1le. I do not believe they actually proh[...] |
| [...]ES children; but the 1noment an Indian becomes a pauper, so to speak, |
| [...]rs. CUSSEN. Yes, sir. Senator PINE. You signed a receipt for it? i\irs. CussEN. Yes sir. Sen[...]1918, or about that ti,ne. Still I believe it wns a little bit before that, perhaps. · .[...]d? l ir. BuNTIN. Yes, sir; I know that we have a record of, I think, IO that we looked up o[...] |
| [...]STATES Mr. BPNTI~, 'fhey have been advised a suit was pending. 'fhe |
| [...]g and another. l-Ie is just getting, I U1ink, $50 a n1onth. Senator PINE. Were you treated at thi[...]lfrs. CussEN. Doctor Langheim ; that I had to pay a certain amount; so I said, ''Well, if I have to do that, I have a little money and will go right over to Chickasha.[...]o physician or surgeon there qualified to perform a major operation, -is it not1 ~! rs. CussEN,[...]tion they have been paying for it. If it is just a sickness where the doctor could operate and the nu rses could handle it, that is nil right. But to take a case like appendicitis or gall stones, it has been customary to get a surgeon. l{~ would-charge a fee if they had anything ; if they bad not any-[...]PINE. Are there cases requiring the attention of a suf- _ireon that has not been taken care of beca[...]of whether they get paid or not. Senator P n a. Were vou informed of that fact¥ Mrs. CussE[...]t thi~ point J would like for Mr. Buntin to put a statement in the record of the facilities[...] |
| [...]s Doctor Moor,nnn, n te,nporary assistant, who 1s a spec1ahst 111 tuberculosis as well as a general practitioner, but not a sur~eon. Senator 'l'HOMAS. \Vhen was the s[...]. Senator 'l'Hoil!AS. Prior to t.he 1st of A.ugust is it not a fact that Doctor Lnn~hei,n was the mnnn.~er, t[...]he funds have been greatly increased and there is a likelihood of that being provided. Senator '1'1:10:uAs. Why was there aa fact that Congress gave that hospital every dol[...]e that I know of has that been pared or lessened a dollar. Congress gives the I ndian De- pnrt,nent[...]give you the money, but you will not spend it. I a,n not talking about you personally, but the depar[...]that, sometimes limits the appro- priation to the a1nount asked for. We always give you what you ask for. Se~ntor PINE. '!here is an appropriation fo~ a s_chool out l_1ere or a hosp1t·al out here 111 western Oklahoma.[...] |
| [...]o the hospital was ' equipped, ,ve ought to have a wonderfully good service down there from now on.[...]ougJ1t to be s01ne way that the~e will be there a regular surgeon to take care of the cases and not[...]l\ir. BuN'l'IN. This winter I think there will be a capacity of 100, and I think that will be fil)ed[...]als, both private and public? l\fr. BUNTIN. To a considerable extent. Senator 'l'Ho?.rAs. Ho,v many doctors and surgeons ,vould a hos- pital ordinarily have if it ,vere maintained bv private parties or by by the State, fo1· example, with a hundred beds capacity? In other ,vords, a general hospital? l\:lr. BuN'l"IN. I would say[...]ere are allowances for two nu1:ses, two laborers, a cook, and a clerk. Senator THOMAS. Ha.ve you made a recommendation to the depart- ment ns to what you[...]) Dr. C. P . GnLESl'IE wns thereupon called ns a witness and, after being first duly sworn[...] |
| [...]tty good. Senator FRAZIER. Have you ever held a clinic in order to dete1·mine how many of thes[...]1LI.Y.SPIB. Well, I will tell you; you know there a1-e 5,~ Indians on. the reservation and one doct[...]lls outside. Senator FRAZIER. H e just stays .a t the hospital t Doctor Gn.1.ESPIE. Yes, sir.[...]d, with the exception of trachoma. We have quite a few Indians with trachoma here. We have some wit[...]ined 2,140. Senator Fn,\ 7.JF.R. I n how long a |
| [...]t1 Doctor GILLESPIE. Well, now, they just had a. good case of tra- chon1n all right. With the pro[...]ool- ltiverside. Every day those children receive a t reatment, but out on the reservation it is ahn[...]reat- n1ent if you ~et to the111 in tilne. But in a case of Jong standing, why it is imposs1ole. They[...]s rather pninful. Senator FRAZJEII. 'fhere was a Mr. ~dge appeared before the co111- mittee ii short ti1ne ago-Stanley Edge, a Caddo Indian- who stated he hnd n boy, .Alvin, ab[...]sav. Senator FnAZIEJt. I ,Yish you would make a note of that cnse, Doctor. Doctor G1LLESPJt. I[...]Senator F11Azn:n. ~ ' hat about venereal diseases a1nong these people? Doctor G1LL}:SPIE. ,ve have quite a bit of it. Senator P1NE. ,vhat percenta[...] |
| [...]~o to the hospital? Doctor G1LLF.SPIE. Quite a tew of the1n. Senntor 'l'IroMAS. ,vhat hospi[...]eld 1natrons? Doctor GILLESPIE. Yes; ,ve have a field nurse at .Apache and one at Cnrnegie and o[...]dians? Doctor Gn.LEsrn:. Yes; they do. I have a nurse in 1ny office that. goes and treats the ey[...]1 Doctor GrLI,1-:sPa:. "\Veil, we really need a hospital. Last yea r- 1930-I sent 101 to the hosp[...]that I had to bring all the wav bnck horne in an a,nbulnnce that had diphtheria.[...] |
| [...]out on the first occasion they would not accept a certain class of cases? Doctor Gn,LESPIE. N[...]y take them? Doctor Gn:,LESPIE. If they had a room to isolate them he said he would be glad t[...]ed? Doctor GILLESPIE. At that time they had a small hospital and they just had dormitories or[...]Senator THOMAS. You just mentioned the size of a staff to take care of this agency. What ,vould[...]ou would have to let the Comanches be figured on a different basis as to what they need? Doctor[...]of the Kiowas and the I ndians west and north and a short cl istance south of Anadarko; is that corr[...]acho1na cases? Doctor Gtr.tESPIE. 1'hey call a doctor in. Senator PINE. Are you sure they p[...]Gu,1,1~PIE. I could not say. I have scraped quite a few myself in Indian schools. ~fr. . GRORUD. I understand the department advises a"'ainste the operation now. Doctor G1Lr.ESPIE. Yes; they ad vise ag!linst n~ing a toothbrush and things that so1ne have used. |
| [...]ions, 1nany children have gone blind; is that not a fact 1 . Doctor GILLESI'IE. Well, I could not say. I treat them with a cop- per sulphate. I use.a 10 per. cent solution of copper sulphate, and I put about one drop in each eye once a day and irrigate it with a warm boric-acid solution, and I have had better r[...]hnt is your opinion as to whether or not an ope1·a- t.ion is the _proper 1nethod of treatment t[...]nion as to ·whether 01· not the opera- t.ion is a J>roper method i . Doctor G[...]Well, in so1ne cases it is best, but if you get .a long-standing case it is pretty hard to do anythi[...]pital clown there. It is new and the other one is a -nice place. Senator THO.M,\S. It is to contain some 100 beds. '\,Vhat would you sav would be a proper staff in the way of doctors and surgeons to handle a hospital of 100 beds, where general treatment is[...]to have s01ne one to look after that part of it-a clerk, like they had in the ,vesley Hospital and St-. Anthony's. They have a clerk that takes care of those tlungs and all the reports. Doctor Langheim has quite a bit to do. Ile has so 1nany reports to make out. I-le has another doctor to assist hi1n-Doctor Moo1'1nan, a very nice youn~ fellow. Senator 'I'HOllAS. A[...]• Doctor GILLJ::SPIE. I a1n acquainted with Doctor Moorman pretty well. |
| [...]" . ,· Doctor GILLESPIE. No sir; he is a. tubercula.1· specialist. Senator THoirAs. He[...]· Senator THOMAS. Is Doctor Langheim a. surgeon~ Doctor GILLESPIE. No, sir; ·[...]case1 Doc~or GILLESPIE. No, sir; there is not a1_1yone that could do ·the operation. Senato1· 'l'HOMAS. Do you think a hospital of that size is entitled to be called a hospital ,vith no facilities,for doing surgical work1 • Doctor GILLESPIE. No; I think you should have a surgeon. . Senator FRAZIER. Do you have any trou[...]body might say that to me. Senator Tao~rAs. If a ,nan went there with a sore throat and was given snits, would you consider that treatment- 1night be a proper treatment1 · Doctor GILI.E.~PIE. '!'hat m[...]t wns on the stand here who testified that he had a sore throat 1 Iiis name, I believe, was Hendricks[...]; that seven years ago, I think it ,vas, he ha.cl a hemorrhage, but had not hnd one recently; at this[...]1-:sru:. Some I can not go to. Not long ago I had a call to Cache, away down belo,v Lawton. I[...] |
| [...]ot re- spond to¥ Doctor G1LLESPIE. I had quite a few I could not get to; yes, sir. Senator 'fnoMAS. When you.get a call from some one-- Doctor GILLESPIE. I try to[...]Docto1· G1LL1:s1•11:. "\Veil. we hnYe quite a few instruments. \Ve have an operating table. "\Ve ha Ye an allowance of $600 for drugs a year. That. is not quite enough, but t ha t is al[...]Have you not any emergency fund that you can buy a little additional medicine with¥ Doctor GILLESPIE. Sometimes we buy a little, not very much. I do not kno,v exac[...] |
| [...]7321 NEo BRACE wns !,hereupon culled as a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testif[...]sir. Senator F-R-AZIER. You belong to the Kiow.a.s 1 Mr. BRACE. Yes, sir.. Senator FRAZIER.[...]E. .About 28 miles. Senator l<RAZIER. Yon have a prepared s(atenient, have you 1 Mr. BRACE. Yes[...]ANAl>ARKO, OKI.A., December 18, 1:1,30. Hon, BURTON K. \VH1::l!:u:a. U11i:ed States Senate Bt1i/tlin11,[...]51,000 Of our Red River oil money to be used in r,a)'lng the running expenses of the Kiowa Agency.[...]tbao $400,000. \Vbere the Indian tribes have such a smnll umount of t l'ibnl money ii is customary fo[...]e farmers visiting the In- clians. Do you live on a farm¥ Mr. BRACE. Yes, sir. Senator[...] |
| [...]BnA1,.t:. So,ne of the1n Sitvs the fariner makes a visit to the Indian ho,nes. I iisked l\fr. Keahbo[...]se so. Senator 'l'HOMAS. Did you ever serve as a field clerk or f,u·n1er? ~!r. BnAC>:.[...] |
| [...]I ·. i • Mr. BRACE. 'fo a certain extent, I think; yes, sir.[...]·w ant, to make this· statement .in regard |
| [...]are living the best they can. Some of the1n get a little rent in an amount of n1oney·- - Senat[...]tor Tnol\rAs. Is there any distress at this ti1ne a1uong the Indians that you kno,v of t Mr. BRA[...]Bn,1CE. Yes, sir. Senator 'fIIOl\tAs. And if a portion of the Indians are not in good condition[...]here at the agency; they will recommend building a ho1ne that nearly takes all the 1noney to build a home and leaves nothing for their furniture in a ~ood many cases and nothi ng to buy livestock, no[...]'senator F nAztER. They use it all in building a house 1 Mr. BRACE. Yes, sir. Right now I kno,v[...]he Indians ever find out that they h~ve any funds a ~ontra~tor co1nes _up there and figures _on how 1[...]the fellow's hat to get credit for it in building a good home and rrive the impression in )Vashington[...]y of these? i\fr. GRoRuo. That is contained in a report to the cornmittee dated January 24, 1930, by l\1r. Buntin. Scuator F nAZIER. A re those the houses that the inspectors se[...] |
| [...]t han that. Senator PINE. Have you met hi,n at A.nadarko! l\{r. BRACE. Yes, sir; I met him at t[...]I think I heard it had; that some of them got it; a few of them. Senator PINE. vVhcn I was here before you asked me to a.ssist in securing that payment at an earli[...] |
| [...].. l\<!r. BRACE. Yes, sir. There are a good many of my people make co1nplaiuts about the[...]d by some parties, I could not remem- ber their 11a1nes right now-but, nnywny, they go over there. So[...]her complaints? 1'1r. BRACE. I think there is a case of a Con1anche girl that. was put out on the porch ins[...]was looked ,1fter unti l she died. I think it is a. fellow by the name of \Vhiskey 'fo1n's daughter.[...]n that they were receiving nt the agency. Is that a general complaint1 i\{r. BRACE. Yes sir.[...]· l\'Ir. BRACE- \Veil, t here are a few o-f us can, but the majority of thern[...] |
| [...]S 7327 ·Senato1, P1NE, You say in a majority of the cases they do not i Mr. BRAC[...]· Senator P1NE. 'fhey take care of a.II that they. can tnke care of on Friday.and the[...]BRACE. They ha ve to con1e the following I?riday, a week fro1n the tune they are here. Senator[...]ged in their farm activities. )Ve have set l!~fid'a y and S~tt!rclay as o~lcE; cl~y_s for the farmer[...]ted, so1nc man 1nistreat-, his wife, or there is a home-building proposition up. i\iany thinis co1nc[...]nething like that1 or there might be some kind of a case thnt ,vould take several aifferen t parties[...]individual 1noney in the regular ,vay, ,~,e have a clerk that handles that. If it is leasing, ther[...]le that. If it is nn oil proposition, we have .. a ,1nan[...] |
| [...]tng 1n_to the office. T liey c_ome 1n one day for a• ~hu1g and t.lu~n repeat 1t, and keep on, and[...]? l\:lr. BUNTIN. In some 1natters; if there is a question of doubt or controversy, they will do th[...]g when I am doing my dictating, and then if it is a big emergency I sec then1; but, then, on Saturday I make it a point to see them. Saturday for four 1nonths in the year is a half .holiday. I have a circular ,vhich I issue the Indians. I "'as going to give you a. copy of that if I could locate it.. which sets f[...], Senator P INE. Are you always able to get to A.nadarko on Friday and Saturday 1 Mr. BRACE. No[...]ing or. soruething of that kind- ,vithout getting a.n 9rclcr frorn the superintendent, then he[...] |
| [...]lER. But if that Indian happens to die and leaves a bill here,'then it is paid by the agency 1[...]. BUNTIN. I would say that in about 1908 they had a regular survey _made of the Indian Service to fi[...]and· strp.ighten uf debts. The Secretary issued a letter or circular·. The substance o it is that[...]e claims. After death it has been the policy for a trader who had extended credit to that I ndian for a considerable time and for a considerable amount to make an itemized and swor[...]payment. Where the heirs said they did not know a.n yt.h ing about them we recommended against them[...]t claim business is getting pretty big, and there a.re a great many of them presented. Senator FRAZIER. He also makes a statement in regard to the en- forcement of the p[...]Mr. BRACE. Yes, sir. Senator FRA:'.IER. Quite a lot? Mr. BRACE. Yes, sir. Senator F[...] |
| [...]any officers her~ "'~hose duty. it is t9 •look a.fter,:this pnrticular tlung and see that they do[...]hef,or ge,t any help,_evecybody is go,~~g to. be a bo.otlegger.. . . . . ., . . .,[...]t I have heard the county judge has been lu1lping a. good den! in that line, from what I have heard.[...]is here himself. i\-[r. GRonuo. I unde1-stand a great deal of that is done . .Senator FR[...] |
| [...]Of course, ,ve have not got 1t ngnt no,v. We got a home demonstrator at Carnegie. I asked the most p[...]oes not understand it. Senator PINE. They need a demonstration in their homes1 ~fr. BRACE. Yes,[...]hose Indians give. . Senator FRAZit:R. A home demonstrator of thnt kind would not be of rn[...].) ,JASPER S,\U:-.KEAH was thereupon called as a witness, and, after being first duly sworn, testi[...]SAuNJ,EAH. Yes. sir. Senator FRAZIER. You are a meniber of the business council of the Kio[...] |
| [...]K.EAH. Yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. I-l ave you a state1nent you want to inake to the com1nittee 1[...]ssees have their p1·operty encumbered already in a &ooil many cases so they have not any collateral t-0 offer for a loan. , l'he second, in so1ne sections the[...] |
| [...]SAUNKEAH. Yes, sir. Senator THo~rAs. Is there a.ny· acute distress no"' an1ong the In- dians, t[...]that the Indian makes. Sometimes they might have a few slices of bacon jn many of the Indian homes.[...]re eight in the family and many times I have made a visit to that home and find that they have very l[...]riating that from the Red River fund does not fix a time for the payment of t.Jiat appropriati[...] |
| [...]enator Tno~rAs. You are requestin_ff,·here that .a specific time be n1entioned 01· fixed when the[...]s made relative to the ti,ne of pay1nent by the a"ency superintendent, if you kno,v1 Mr. S.-1[...]nd ent had rccom1nended that the pay,ncnt made at a later elute would be niore beneficial t[...] |
| [...]eded to distribute it over_t,vo or three payments a1\d not all at once. ' .[...]d the parent has to conic to the oftice and make a showing and convince you that he needs·the mone[...]ave to do is to go to the local, farmer and make a requesh after 1naking a. survey of what he probably would get later. Say[...]. We could .pay him $25 each month. We could pay a:11 of that in one month. We could pay them. each[...]hildren and ,~anted $50, to distribute it in such a ,vay that it would enable him to get alon" the b[...]or ~'HOMAS. I luive had co1nplaints 1nacle to ,ne a.long this line: '!'hat is in reference to youi· policy of requiring t.he Indians to come to the a~eney t-0 1na.ke these recom.mendations. This causes them to 1n~ke rrequent trips to t.l1e a~ency1 a,nd it costs them more in ,vaste of time an[...] |
| [...]ls that will be received three or four weeks or a rnonth or two months later.[...]be just as beneficial. Under ordinary conditions a large nu1nber of these Indians will get credit for a period of six months and ,vill adjust it with the[...]with local merchants1 :\fr. BUNTIN. I think a great 1nany of them do; not all of them. Some of[...]ul ns the average white fn1nily or 1nore so, but a great many of them are not. Senator Tao1>1As[...]uNTIN. No; they could not. There is ,vhere paying a sum in lu1np is beneficial because they go and p[...]· Mr. BUNTIN. No. That is a very small difference. 1'he big t hing is[...] |
| [...]o ahead. Mr. SAUN){EAH. I ,vould like to 1nake a stnte1ncnt in connection with the building progra[...]he building of homes. Severn! years ago there was a. period of t i1ne there it seeined like a. person could go to the office nnd request land to be sold to have a house built, nnd there was no trouble in making a lnnd sale to get a house built. Of course, that is all ri~ht. ,~1 e[...]ng sold ~01neti1nes, and the 1noney used to build a nice ho1ne and under the plans that the agency has there, the building plans they have, the price of a building runs fro1n $1,100 up to over $2,000. ~{n[...]those ilnprove1nents, and I feel like that is not a very good policy to cnrry out, because a house that costs _$2,000 in 10 years will depreciate to a point where it would cost several hundred dollars to repair that house, and, as a rule, the Indians have no 1noney to 1nake those r[...]cation is taken up and before the land is sold-as a rule, they have an Indian sio-n an agremnont that all or a certain n1nount of money be used t.o 1na'ke these[...]use the balance of the funds for livino- expenses a.nd for other ptu·poses. Senato1· T1-10M,\S.[...]nator 1'uO)tAS. For exa1nple, if it was spent for a house or barn, cistern , poultry house, stonn r a[...]Senator THOMAS. Do the Indians prefer to Ii Ye in a good house to a house they used to live in 1 - Mr. SAUN){EAH. vVhen they can get a house in the 1nanner that I just stated. It is easy for them to get that house built by selling a |
| [...]Wa$hington, A.prti 26, 191/G. Hon. EX.MER THOMAS, H[...]blic welfare. 'J:he expenditures from tl1e fond aA88i8tam c01,m>i8sio11er. |
| [...]:lhe ·farm with hquses-and, builclings• is not a good policy for the Indian 1[...]an explanation: · Wher,e · In•· dians have .a,su1:plus .amount of land, such as heirship land--[...]and left-I think ,wher~· ever t-hey desire it is a ,vi!ie policy to.pr1n1ide them,with·a ·home, tools,[...]olicy of getting rentals in advance. We had quite a number ,vo ,vould come up and say : We- _will leave -a .place for five years and get the money advanced,[...]nd get the equip- ment, and he would want to make a living by his own efforts on the i-est o.f it. .[...]out just as ,ve expected, because we .find this: A great many Indians will .come in and we-would. ad[...]fit often to terrace his land build houses to be a satisfactory policy[...]wanted.to sell some-land. He has enough to build a home and we would say all right, although he is[...]built on the same place. I do not think that is a good policy to build another house on the same place where he already has a fairly good house. Senator FRAZIER. Does the Indian apply for a house in· that case¥ Mr. SAUl!fKEAH. T hat[...]that to be the fact in bvo or three cases where a house is built on the same allotment at[...] |
| [...]ot know. Senator PINE. Did you ever ·hear. of a case, where an·Indian was built a uood home and given ·good furniture which was bought for him, nn'a later he sold out the furniture in order to get s[...]houses? Mr. St1.uNKEAH. Yes, sir. That was in a certain period of time back in the pust. Senat[...]. Docs she live in her house? l\<lr. SA uN1,f;A Fl. At the present time she is livin~ in her hous[...]husband; yes, sir. l\1'r. Gnonuo. I show you a picture. Is that her house? Mr. SAUNKEAB. Y c[...]in detail on the house-building prooram. I make a visit to many of these homes, like I said before, and"i can not find a chicken on the pince. I can not find any hay pac[...]urchased for these Indians. In ,nany cases I make a visit to a home and I go to the barn and look around[...] |
| [...]farmer makes visits there when he is delivering a check or for a lease or contract or so111e business that he wants an Indian to sign or a check to deliver. Senator PINE. Then they ha[...]; is that it¥ Mr. SAUNKEAH. Yes, sir; that is a fact. Along that sa111e line, I ,vant to say, ju[...]d Government officials and what not come to 1nak~ a visit to this reservation. I have to see the fir[...]ion tour, but from what the Indians say they have a regular route to go. Senator Fnazu,R. They hav[...]notified by the far111ers to prepnr_e their house a.nd clean up, that a certain inspector is coining. . Senator THOJ)lAS. That is a ~eneral rule, 1s it not, where an Army post is $o[...]r. 0:,AUNKEAH. Yes, Sir. Senator THOb!AS. When a National Guard ca1np is going to be inspected they spend a long time in getting ready, Is tluit not a universal practice, that they ahvays 1nake a special showing for the benefit of inspection? Of[...]r natural wa.y of living rather t.han to be shown a special way. Mr. SAUNKEAH. I ha.ve made[...] |
| [...]es-that aro what might be ter1ned emergency cases a1Hl cases that really need attention. ·[...]Mr. SAUNKEAH. I could not -~iy. I do not know of a1cy 1nyself:~ Senator Tlio11r.1.s. Any oth[...]Mr. Buntin. · . Senator FR,\ZIER. Are you a 1narried 1nan 1 ·[...]1\id that they knew he did not ha \'e tune to get a,,·ay .fro.n1 <there yet, and they had some imp[...]siness mat,ters come up and interfered with in a case like that. It makes the In-: dians con1pl[...]en disc.ussed ,by the business committee of Kio"'a 'fribe i ·[...]eave t~e office while there is anyone there. ·we a re s upposed to go at 12. I t is very sel[...] |
| [...]ee times n n1onth. She ,vill call mo nnd wait. A lot of these I nd inns here have· heard ,that...[...]e 'time I ren1ember particularly ,vhen they had a meeting over at Wilkens-Mission, she came in along about 10.30 in the inoming. They had. some kind of a meeting over at '\Vilkens Church,- - ·[...]t that,js probably correct,· because they have, a club over there, the field matrons and women's cl[...]d not go until after -the noon hour. ., I t . is a club, I will .say, of Indian women. Mr. SAUNKEAH. I think our ll]lltters thnt ,ve take up nre just a:s •important as the matters-he goes to ,vhen he[...]Mrs. BLANCHE Ko KooM ' " 'nS thereupon called as a witness and, after'being first duly $'\\'Orn, te[...]e to the c·ommittee¥ ·Mrs. Ko KooM. I have a sick husband 'that is not able to get about and[...]1922 or 1923. Senator FRAZIER. Will you make a note of that, l'l:lr. Superin- tendent, and look[...]orrect. Senator THo~rA-s. What can you do in a case of that kind? ' h:Cr. B'uNTIN. In ·case h[...]we will not lease to him any more until he tnakes a settlement, and in case 26465-31- PTJ[...] |
| [...]bond t Mr. BUNTIN. He is under bond. Once in a ,vhile something will happen that bonds are not good. They will give a list of bonds and give a list of property showing they are good and it wil[...]d suit. · Senator 1'HOMAS. That he had filed a suit or would file one·i Mrs. Ko KooM. He ju[...]the man living on George Hunt's place and he had a crop on that place east of Mountain View. '\Ve to[...]hat money. Later they told us that that place was a patent in fee and we could not touch the crop on[...]Mrs. Ko l{ooM. I do not think they have filed a suit or. anything. A.bout a year ago I told l\1r. Buntin about it, and he :pr[...]the hospital. I found that man in Lawton ~elling a truck load of 1nelons, sweet potatoes, and tomatoes. He told us that he had a place 15 miles east of Lawton he was living on.[...]as up to the Indian Office to look after it. Here a while back, about a month ago, I asked them again, and they la[...] |
| [...]1 Mrs. Ko KooM. I .said: '· You go and take a bomb and use 1t on; tliilt 1µan so that we can g[...]l(ooM. North of Hobart. Senator PINE. Is he a farmer? Mrs. Ko Koollr. He is a farmer. He was a business man at the time when this 1na.n got awa[...]now he still has good credit. I see him bring in a bale of cotton a while back. Senator PI~E. You say your husb[...]rs. Ko I{ooM. No, sir. Senator PrNt:. Is he a full-blood Kiowa Indian 1 l\:Crs. Ko[...] |
| [...]ions at the hospital at La,vton. If it runs into a lnrge sum it see1ns.'t o me.like: it is a bad polic:y. · t, •; ~ ··, , .,[...]s. ICo Koo111. l\'Iy father, ol~ man Ko.Koom, has a business lease at.~ddle ,l\fountnin .that he gets $80 ·a · year from. In 1928 half of the $80 never was pnid in, and;then they came up in that year and 1nade a new lease, and draw up a lease for five years, which he paid $150 a year. It is to be quarterly payments to be 1nade,[...]o KooM. No. This year he has never pnid up his qu,a.rterly regularly, and I told that little s[...] |
| [...]&-end the notice. Mr. BUN'l'IN. I will 1nake a note of that. i\{rs. Ko l{ooM. October has pa[...]ments. ~ow he is going on to J anuary. He has got a ·store and a lilling station and garage at my father's place.[...]Senator THOMAS. Some time soon you see Mr. Buntin a.g ain about the matter and ~et the record. He wi[...]it you have any complaint further to nutke after a reasonable time, you write in to us at vVashingt[...]o KooM. i\,fy father is totally blind. '!'here is a young 1na11 that interprets for my father. This[...]'rhe first ti111e we came here i\ir. Buntin "'as a,vay; he was not in the office. We carne and told[...]IN. Yes, sir. l\{rs. Ko l(ooM. '\Ve came here a ,veek ago Friday. That young man was in the ofl1[...]rent sources of lease money, one at Saddle Mount.a in, a fanning lease of $350 a year, and that business lease of $150, and he has got a place south of here; he and I are heirs together[...]his lease for oil. Senator 'l'HOM AS. He gets a pension¥ i\{rs. Ko Koo~r. 'l'hen he gets a. pension of $50 besides nil t.liat lease 1noney. Senator PINE. $50 a. 1nonth 1 i\{rs. Ko l{ooM. $50 a month. He is totally blind. He is 86 years[...] |
| [...]nd it would d? him son1e little good. 'fw_o years a~o w0 took him to Oklahoma City, and Doctor ?11:cH[...]or l\:lcHenry in Oklnho1na City said, that he had a. cataract and it should be ta.ken out. l\fr.[...]rt on F riday, and Saturday they close the office a half dny. So we got in Hobart too late to call up[...]i l l\fonday. and I took the old 1nan to l-Iobart a week ago last ~Ionday, and he called up, and l\ir[...]im if he wants to pay it f ro1n tbe lease 1noney, a.JI right. I said I would risk it if he wanted to[...]the farmer and have the fanner con1e in and have a talk with him and send letters and notice to the[...]ed.) Senator FRAZU:R . ,ve ,viii have to take a recess until half past 7. W e ,viii then h[...] |
| [...]ltural activities. The sa1ue four days were set a1>a1·t for the farmers to be acth•ely stirring a[...]ng, home building, etc. Friday was set apart as a day for Indians to YiSit u,e office nnd take up s[...]Jasper Snunkeah n11d some others suggested that a dPfinlte plan be outlined and the Indians advised[...]osecl circular which is largely self-explanatory. A vcr)· im1>ortn11t principle of administration I[...]vations-lo those juris- dictions where distances a,nd road conditions make admlnistraton from a central-agency office difficult, the policy of d[...]st four work da)'S of the week is repented . Such a system, carried into effect, saves the Indians many thousands of dollars 011 a reservation of this kind 1 This should not be construed as a recommendation ngatnst the establishment o[...] |
| [...]should be pleased to have t)lls in some way wade a Pl\rt or your record. Respect!nlly,[...]J. A. BU'1TIN,[...]e. Oiroular to J111Ucuis: |
| [...], il.1z.ackwko, Ok/a.,, Afar.ell, 2, 19.~1. 1 l'be COMMISSIONER OF IND[...]on uuder date of Febru- ary 24, 1931, relative to a comn11mlcnt101i nddz·esscd to Hon. Lynn Frai ler[...]nt? . "8. Are any of t11e Iodh111s still com'!)!a)ning about ttw Pinn? "4. Bns it really sn,·e[...]ict ; 75 per cent of the Indi!111s living in 'the A!lache district; nncl !lrobnbly 65 1icr cent of the Indians Jivlni; in the Carnegie district. As a rule the Indians wbo nre clolng very little work[...]ery nt the nppointed time. The plan of hnving a request oindo and mailed out to the Indinns wns i[...]nently n new order would be issued In the form of a circnlnr for the 1m1·pose of reminding the India[...]JOHN A , B11NTlN, 811pef'in/c11dc11t. |
| [...]s. : BURGESS HuNT was thereupon called as a witness and. after Qeing first duly sworn, testif[...]. Senator FRAZIER. You belong to the "\Vicliit:a groupt !l{r. HuNT. Yes, sir. Senator FRAZIE[...]Mr. HUNT. Yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. You have a st-atement to make! Mr. HUNT. I ha.ve some pap[...]nation of these statements 1 !lfr. HuNT. I have a statement of my own there. Senator FRAZIER. Ri[...], and unlcs.~ the whole or both sides are gh•en a bearing on such troubles unfairness Is bound to C[...]on- cerned, we suggest that Congress should eoact a measure, which has been recom- mended by our Comm[...]regulntlons, to vest l.n Indian tribal couu- cils a considerable responsibility for the operation of[...]ne of legislation thnt Congress In preparing such a measure should require that Indian tribes[...] |
| [...]Senator FnAZIRR. And that the Indians do not get a fair price for the land used. Do you not think th[...]eturned to 011r local office; S11perlntendent J . A. Buntin then calls for us to appear nt the agency[...]e Indians got. Illustrations: .John Watson, a white man. ;;ot $800 for bis bh1ckj11ck an[...] |
| [...]we desire is to l1ave thls •thlug bnnllled ln'. a fllir nnd l1111,.\rtlql manner. iVhat do you 1[...]1 ·-., i\fr. HUNT. That is a hilly ,country. , Scnuto[...]n, that the white n1cn fire being paid as damages aa survey, and we usually have it a.ppn1ised by the fanncr and other inen; then put i[...]i\£r. BuNTIN. "\-Ye investigate those cases. A con1plaint ,vas made w~Hire the whi te n~en ~,·e[...], but upon looking 1t up ,ve found he was getting a hundred, that he was getting $25 more and land ow[...]e said he was enti rely sntisficd. '!'his other n1a t.ter is different, and there n1ny be so1ne rneri[...]hat. Senator FnAzn:n. You inquire from him in a few days. :;\fr. Ho::,;-r. I inacle th[...] |
| [...]ndians get proper damages for land take11. fo1· a right of way. ])o. y9.u live on the land your~el[...]nent· farn1cr visit you' and con- sult with you a~out_ far111ing operations, gardenipg, e.tc/ t '.t[...]· · · . , Seun.tor.J.f11,1.zn:n. B.owes is a .farmer in your district, is he!. Mr. 'HUNT:[...]. Senator FnAZIEII. Vi7ell, I wish you would make a note of these charges against these farmers, h<![...]f Claims? Senator 1.<'RAZrER. Yes. Do vou have a case pending in the Court of Claims1[...]\fr. Hum:. ·Yes, sii:. Senator FRAZIER. It is a slow process to get these cases decided, because there are a lot of old records they have to look up. i\1r. H UNT. Yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. And it takes a long time. We have been instru- 1nental in gettin[...]ering some other legislation to have some sort of a separate court appointed especially for th[...] |
| [...]excused.) JOHN HAooox was thereupon called as a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testi[...]Mr. HADDON. No, sir. Senator FRAZIER. You are a member of the Wichita group 1 Mr. HADDON. Yes,[...]iles north,vest of here. Senato1· FRAZIER. On a fnr1n 1 l\{r. HADDON. Yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. H nve you a statenient you want to make to the com,nittee1[...]s Indian agency that when there is an opening for a position, which an Indian can perform, that the s[...]nth. This seemed very unjust to 1ne, as had n1y t a1nily to keep. I complained to l\{r. Buntin, ,vho 1nade a change in tins thing. Nevertheless, Mrs. B[...] |
| [...]that1 Mr. HADDON. Well, ,ve started in at $48 a month. Senator PINE. ,vhat did you do-take car[...]FRAZIER. You had to board yourself out of the $30 a n1onth 1 l\fr. HADOON. Yes, sir_ · Senator FRAZIER: $30 a month, you mean 1 Mr. HADOON. Yes, sir. Sen[...]did you do that 1 i\fr. HADDON. It was probably a 1nonth and a half; maybe t,vo 1nonths. Senator 'I'noM[...] |
| [...]. What do you do now 1 Mr. H ,,oDON. I nm on a farm. Senator 'fnoMAS. On voury[...]HADDON. ,veil, I nm getting along pretty good in,a way. , Senator 'l'HOMAS. Do vou raise corn a[...]hogs, and·chickens, Senator P1NE. I s there a man now in this position that you held t Mr.[...]ADDON. I think he is getting somewhere around $60 a, month no,v.[...]Senator F1<AZJER. Did you say you applied for · a.nother 'Position 1 l',{r. HADDON. I asked Mr.[...]ay stayed up there at his house while she worked a while at our place down there. I never heard anyt[...]taying with members of her tribe out there. John, a.s he snys, I think he was a policeman, and if his salary was reduced I do not re1nember i~, but he surely would kno,v. I do not know of a vacancy that has occurred since then. Wo had two[...]1· FRAZIER. The superintendent can not just make a job for a 1nan because he wants to work, but the Indian Dep[...]e others were raised, and he pnicl $65. There was a, big raise in salaries since then. Sena[...] |
| [...]BUNTIN. No; I did not know anything of it. I know a few times I told thc1n to employ John because he[...]they had done anythin<> like that-. We had quite a number employed last summer over at the school, a[...]ool farm machinery?- Mr. BuNTJN. Well, once in a while something is loaned, but not to amount to anything. Once in a while we may 6ori·ow something, but no gr[...] |
| [...]DDON. No, sir. Senator FRAzn:R. When you have a complaint to make, go to the superintendent; and[...]cused.) DENNIS WARDEN was thereupon called as a " 'itness and, after being first duly sworn, tes[...]r. WARDEN. Yes. sir. Senator FRAZIER. You are a 1nen1ber of the ,vichita group¥ Mr. WARDEN.[...]1niles north. Senator FRAZIER. Do you live on a far1n? Mr. WARDEN. Yes, sir. Senator FRAZIE[...]ut 48 acres. Senator FRAZIER. Is this your own a!lohnent ? Mr. WARDEN. No, sir. Senator FRAZ[...]vife's. Senator FRAZIER. Ha,·e you not got an a!lohnent? Mr. WARDEN. Yes sir. Senator FR-,.[...]Rent it out. Senator FR.\Zll:R. Do 3·ou have a staten1ent you want to make to the committee 1[...]only the resolution. Senator FRAZIER. There is a stnte1nent signed by Dennis Warden, president of the Wichita Nation. Mr. ,vARDEN. That is a resolution that was passed by the council.[...] |
| [...]Senator FRAZIER. You state you are living on a. farm and that you farm there. Does the Governmen[...]w ARDEN. l es, sir. Senator FRAzLER. You have a family of children? Mr. WARDEN. Yes sir.[...]ck? Do you treat them yourself or do you send for a doctor\ M1·. WARDEN. I send for the doctor. · Senator FRAZIER. Do you get a doctol" from Grace1nont1 l\{r. WARDEN.[...] |
| [...]e children-in -s~hpol,-o~, Sj:hOQl ager. so fa.r a.s you know I . · . :[...],/ ., ., , , :· Mr. WARDEN. Y.es'-sir;,a.s ,fa.r as I ]µlow, .- . , ,[...], Senator TooMAS. The health conditio~s,Jhellj a.re 1:v:e_cy gQog, 1 .. Mr. WARDEN. Yes,sir.[...]I can ,get my money. Why , keep, ,me looking like a beggar? I am not long for this life, a,nd I c)esire to have some comfort.[...]ould have some advice and should consult with the a.gent and the ,i~ent with them in connection with[...]ot" any pen- sion, he should have. If he hns been a scout in the United States A.nny, he is entitled to $50 a month. Senator THOMAS. Has he ever 1nnde application for a pension I l\<Ir. ,VARDEN. I do not know. Se[...]look that up a for him. If he is entitled to pension, he[...] |
| [...]. \>VII.LIAM COLL;Ns )\·as thereupon calle<l as a witness and; after beirig_first duly s~vor~: test[...]RAZIER. \Vell, if he was, you tell hi1n if he was a, scout in the Un ited States Ar1ny he is entitled[...]. Fn,\Nl< 1\-Ir.rHVJN was thereupon called as a witness and, aftei:, being lh·st duly sworn testified as follows: Senator F1tAZIEn. You nre a 1nember of the Apache group1 l\ir. l\fETnv1N.[...]1N. Ye.<;, sir. Senator FRAZit:n. Do you have a sta te1nent you w,int to 1nake to the co1iunittee[...]usi- ness c<i1nmittee of the three tribes to have a little n1ore voice or to be p<1r1nittecl to have a little 1nore voice in their tribal affairs. \Vhi[...]take this Friday proposition that was brought out a while back. l\fr. Buntin sent 011t n circu[...] |
| [...]TATES the business committee of w~ich I was a member at that time, what |
| [...]TES 7365 They also ,vish to make a complaint about tlie Indian IJospital at Lawfon[...]particular instance, and there have been quite a few of them that have come to n1e. I will not go[...]around the next day. This gi1·l " 'as runnin~ a very higb temperature. Finally she was in such 1n[...]what they told 1ne that he did not until Doctor A1itchell came or Doctor Dunne, or what- ever his[...]not sure. I think they treated her, however, for a while, and then sent her ho1ne. Senator FRAZI[...]Senator FRAZIER. Do you know whether that is a general complaint against that doctor down there[...]l? Mr. Ml:.'THVIN. From my people I get it as a general complaint. ,vhen they ~o down there, why[...]enator THO.MAS. Ho,v much 1 Mr. METHVIN. About a year, I guess; maybe a little longer. Senator T HOMAS. Until J[...] |
| [...]or that much delay, howev~lli Senator,.an<l when a person is sick and thinks enough of, hill!self t9[...],, Senator 1>1NE. Is Mrs. Barry a poor woman 1 . . Mr. MET[...]amination of hiin, and then he was turned over to a. general \Yard and t.J1e nur·ses took care of h[...]hey had "'orked ,vith hi1n. Senator FnAzIER. A.ll,Y other state1nent_ you want to n"!nke ~[...]plaint I would like to ninke is this, thnt where a will is being probated ~' Oil have !'lo way of co[...]o not wish to co,ne. I n lots of instances where a fellow has Indians of that kind they might be ver[...]imes there is an injustice done for that reason. A. fellow can have a witness and he ,vould be very ma- terial[...] |
| [...]there. ['here are no funds with which to •pay a ,vitness ·o r ,anything of that kind. You can no[...]. METHVIN. Well, no more so than usual. Th.ere is a delay in all cases unless you get a representative of some kind-a Senator or Representative-upon a case after it goes in. Sometimes it tak.es quite a little time before it comes up for hearing. S[...]need of the money and that there was money in the a~ency, and they were trying to get an. examiner o[...], became sick and was gone for some time. We had a terrible time getting an examiner here to take up[...]ler live here¥ Mr. METHVIN. He ,vas here for a time. -I do not know whether his residence is here· or not. I thiilk: he covers quite a bit of territory. Senator FnAZI.ER. You state[...]ree, and two Apaches. Senator J>mE. You ,vere a member at one' timet Mr. METuv1N. Yes, sir. Senator PINE. Why is it that you are not a member no,v 1 1\fr. METHVIN. ,veil, sir, there is no compensation in it, and I am trying to make a living, and I can not devote my time to that and make a living, too. Ho,vever, I am consulted by my parti[...]your council 1 Mr. METHVIN. Not ours. That is a different tribe; not classified with our tribe.[...]r not. I believe that our members discussed it in a general way. I do not belieYe they made a direct recommendation as to these matters,[...] |
| [...]IN UNITED STATES sibly not that long-there was a circular came out, you know, f1:om |
| [...]he should not sell half of his property to build a home because his income is cut that much. You would not do that. If you had a farm ,vorth $6,000, you ,vould not go out, if you[...]nd take the bigger par t of it and build yourself a three or four thousand dollar liome on tha.t farm. I think it is a wrong attitude, personally, to do that with th[...]Senator FRAZIER. As I understand it, that is a policy that has been inaugurated by the Indian[...]erary of the inspector is prearranged and he lras a route which he has to follow, and when he follows that route ht__goes back and he has a glowing report of the Indians clown here. He does not see the true facts and conditions. 'I'hey see a few of the homes, but they do not see the 1naj[...]ons. . Mr. l\i.1."l'HVIJ\. I think t hat would be a good t hiJ1", i ~ we can get thc1n together to[...]n business co1n1nittee, but it is 1nerely in an a<h·isory capacity, and if the Indian busin[...] |
| [...]1natter of mortgaging growing crops. . 'fhere was a.' cir- cular came out prohibit ing the 1nortgnging of these things, but there is a decision of the Federal judge saying that it was illegal to 1nortgage a gro,ving crop on trust land. I~ater on we had one that 1nort~aged a crop and took it to the F ederal court and the cou1·t sustained hi,n. It 1night be advi~1ble to pnss a law to per,nit hin1 to n1ortgao-e n crop.[...]- tween the Indians the1nselves. One rnay have a <,ouple of thousand dollars surplus and not th[...]ns are coming in. I could go on nnd na1ne hnlf a dozen. They say, "We want to put up our horne[...]tho leases nearly $52,000. That is distributed a1nong 325 Indians. Anot her i1nportnnt prognun[...]ty. We ga.ve hiln the opportunity. We give hi1n a chance. ,ve give them all the encourngement ,ve[...]BUNTIN. Well, now, 1f ,ve could go and get, say, a 1C\' 1clutn, and if he could tell us one thing that would concern the tribe as a whole, all right. It is an individual affair,[...]rela- tions nre broken up. If they have purely a tribal nffair-and ,ve have had them on[...] |
| [...]as just. In those matters concerning the tribe as a whole, we are always glad to cooperate ,v,ith[...]. ; Mr. BUNTIN. No. ·we discussed it a tin1e or two but I ·took the position on accou[...]se, as' I told the tribal busi- ness committee, a man .will come in here and say : " Here, my famil[...]in, we will take care of him. We will give him a litt.le order, and we will take' it out of his Red River order. ,vithout having this back I a1n not able to help him. If I pay it to him, I h[...]ot to do is to let us know, and we will ·issue a purcha~e order and the books will be bought on[...]responded very nicely. We were able to give them a purchase· order ·to ,t.ake care of the situat[...]o send th~m to school? Mr. BUNTIN. You are a litt.le bit up against it unless they have 1non[...]this Red River money is coming to, but there is a class;-- Senator FRAZIER. Has the Government man been making a survey of the school conditions recently? Mr. BuNTJN. No one except a man who is on the· reservation, i\ir. Walters, who was here to-day. Senator FRAZIER. I s he making a survey of that kind~ Mr . BUNTIN. He[...] |
| [...]N UNITED STATES Senator 'FRXZIER.! .On ·a. sur,v.ey i · |
| [...]NITED STATES 7373 Mr. BuNTlN.. Not a great ·deal; some, ln.1t not ,m(t.ny, , everything considered. · There are ,not a great, nuinber of· ·orphans, not a great number in proportion to the population of t[...]o school in their early years and get to be quite a size. before they ever have a chance to go to school-as long as you have those[...]I do not. They will have to..be µiaintained for a great many years yet.. ·[...]irls for any particular purpose or just give them a sort of genera.I education without anything part[...]tor PINE. What others¥ Mr. BUNTIN. Bacone to a limited number. Senator PINE. Are you able to place the children who want t-0 go to these schools as a rule 1 Mr. BuNTIN. As a. rule we a.re able to place them all r ight. Senator PIN[...]line o · work¥ · Mr. BuNTIN. As a rule, as typists and st~nographers. They are able to go out nnd hold their positions right a.lon~, and teachers have done very ,veil. The one[...]not my opinion. I have been ,vith these Indians a long time. I came here, I think, 37 years[...] |
| [...], and .I expect one-third of ~he: children-maybe a half of them-would come in with sore eyes. 'rhe[...]e far1ners' lease moneys to the Indians. There is a large an1ount of that that has not been pnid. It is true there are a great. number of them that are failures, not onl[...]done. I do not believe the Indian Com- mittee as a whole knows what has been clone or bas ascertaine[...]money and to relieve these -people. It ,vould be a ~rent. relief to these Indians if we could get t[...]I do not know, but I dare say it would amount to a couple hundred thousand dollars. Mr. BuNnx.[...]not going to be able to pay for January. 'fhat is a serious condition. 'rhat is the 1nost seri[...] |
| [...]ver, I have no objection if you want to be asked a question about it. 111:r. BUNTIN. There are t[...], for instance, of this county was present; quite a number were present. The whole matter was canvas[...]actly as you have stated it, that there wil'l be a large delinquency in these payments and unless t[...]he problem was therefore considered to be acute. A great 1nany suggestions were made as to how the 1[...]at the office·and ,viii be paid ont regularly. I a1n sure you can count on your, delegation i[...] |
| [...]BERRY. .At Fort -Cobb. Senator FRAZIER. Are you a member of the business council or tribal council~[...]r. BERRY. No, sir. Senator FRAzri::R. H ave you a statement you ,vant to make to the committee? ?ifr. BERRY. ,:vell, J have a little matter here of my wife I want to take up.[...]on her oath deposes and states as follows: I am a foll·blooded Kiowa Indian, aged 49 years. and we[...]on School only 6 or 7 years. About 10 years ago a patent In fee was i$.$ued to me for my lancl whic[...]About one year after this land was purchase<! and a trust issuecl to me Superenltndent Stincbeeum brought out and delivered to me a patent in fee, and said I bad to take It. The l[...],200 for 10 years, and recently I have had to put a o-year extension mortgage on this land. I have pa[...]to handle my business, and the Government did me a wrong by making me take my patent in tee. I ask[...]e re- turned to the same condition it was in, and a trust patent renewed. Senator PINE. This was no[...]she never asked for no patent. They just brought a patent and gave it to us. Senator PINE. That is[...]s it is in trust they can not with- draw it froin a trust. You do not know whether she made an[...] |
| [...], No; she ,bought it. Mr. BUNTIN. Did she get a deed to it¥ Mr. BERRY. No. , ·l\'.[r. ·BUNTIN. She got a deed 1 l',fr. BERRY. Yes, sir; aft~r she boug[...]d she buy it fro1n 1 . Mr. BERRY. An Apache. A VoICE. She made an exchange so she could "et land[...]eally sold and bought. §he could have can- celed a.nd ' reallotted, as they do mostly now, to be sur[...]bject to taxation, we cancel one patent and issud a new one to the other party or ,exchange patel!ts[...]Mr. BuNTIN. ~id she make an apl)lic~tion ~or a p,~tent? Mr. BERRY. I did not make no applica[...]trust. Technically you 1night 'be right. There is a point in there. It might be a little dif- ferent fro1n the original allotment,[...]hold those Ul) to the heirs. If they would issue a pntent in fee without application on , heirship l[...]encumbrances. If they did that they have violated a trust. That might not have been in this other tract. Of course, she would not have had a trust patent covering the other tract. Senato[...]reached as to what should be done, but the1·e is a general senti- ment that where patents were force[...]r. B.ERnY. Not very much. The only thing I get is a circular letter from l',{r. Buntin. It looks like he is a bigger farmer than them fellows out in the field. Senator PIN}!. He gives you a correspondence course 1 "Mr. BERRY. Yes, sir.[...]farmer sys- tem should be readjust~d and changed a good deal. 'fhe Indians should have 111ore[...] |
| [...]r of inheritances. We do not think we are getting a fair deal before the department or we would not s[...]that some things are done in the department with a high hand and that the department ls loath to dis[...]its employees. \Vblle I can not see just why such a condition could e:dst, I feel that It does nevert[...]we fear it is not, for we felt that we could see a disposition from the start to moke tbi& will stand up regal'dless of bow It was made. By a close examina- tion of Allie M. Brennan, the fiel[...]this old man just before bis death. He bad quite a lot of money and most all of it vanished during just a few months that she visited him. He was blind, an[...]ho, ,vas iuterp1·eter, to forever condemn it ,,s a fixed-up job. You can see from tl1e evidence o[...]into this matter they will see that this woman is a very dangerous person to be hnudllng atrairs for[...]NC'E HERDl'O A'J'TAClT£1> \Ve desire to call the att[...] |
| [...]lon, when asked who asked her to sign the will as a witness, said she snp[)Osed her ll)Other. (See mi[...]member. Allle M. Brennan affirmed that she was a sked by Koon-Ka-zah-chy to sign the will as at wi[...]or requested Alleen Breuutin to sign bis will as a witness, and tliat he, the said Koon-Ka-zah-chy, clld not request Allie 111. Brennan to sign as a witness. (See p. 16 o( Uiis trnnseript at or ubou[...]h-cby, dicl not request Aileen Brennan to sign ns a witnes8 and did not ask Allie M. Brennan to s ign as a wltuess. Then the will was not executed according[...], bClenuse he was doing the Interpreting. Then in a case of that kind she ,night just ns well hnve no[...]l lny in the office at the agency for n long time a fter It hnd been attempted to be mode and Allie M[...]he did not remember, and when asked If it was not a long time after tlie will wns made, Uiat she did[...]when she signed It, when Alleen Hrennan signed as a witness, and when James Tow-ho signed the ('<'rll[...]an excuse that such statements could be attached a t any time. \Vhen I nsked her if the st11tement was not written a long time after the will, she says she can not re[...]never askc<f or requested that she sign the will a~ n witness. Then it was not signc<l according to[...]asked. (See her e\'l1l'cncc. p. 13.) And It Is a rnct that we nttcmptccl 10 have n trial he[...] |
| [...]een uttached• to tbe . will again we obtained a COl)Y of It ~ometblng like a year a(ter it was mad<,, or attempted-to be made, and[...]Cl'ipt.) Then if when It had be\>n attached but a sho1·t while, she could not l'emember wbo w1·ot[...]tbau,,buyiug, even •if 11, clld, ltave, to pny, a good fee: and I :Curthei:. beUe.\'e ,this,sitUa[...]nion I -have drawll'from all the evidence .aud is a me1·e opinion , ou my ,part, fo1· I am in no[...]ommittee. But. I feel tbnt they will say it, ls a·.dangerous tiling to give anyone such 1>owe1· -as •to .app1·ove a will made like thlS will was made as shown by u,e[...]2. Now if she bad honestly made this statement ·a loog time after the will was,executed for an honest pur11ose, she would not have bidden behiud ·a bacl, memor.Y., for on nil other 1loints her mem[...]n new rose. If .She had not been bolstering up ,a will she knew she bad fraudulently .attempted .to[...]•the making of this will show clearly at least a disre- gard of the Jaw. but. we submit that man[...]of this transcript below · the middle and -near a line of Xes tbnt th!! testator told her he bad no[...]idence of Tennyson Berry that Ile was, In fact., a: cousin to Koo,n-Ka-zah-cby and tbut Koou-Ka-za[...]bis mind was gone, and be could not bn,•e mnde a will If the formalities bad beeu observed for th[...]ull combiued In one pcrsoi:i, and it did not take a formality with her: but we further submit that she hnd not calculated upon a contest of t11e will. and she tbou.;bt it would[...], but we know or no other way of uncovering such a fraud; and if this Cli$C docs not disclose that i[...]face of It. we submit that nothing can be called a f1·.aud, nnd that all things done by every memb[...]th Indim1 affail-s, and that hereafter they have a right to deul out property of deceased pe[...] |
| [...]on who happens to be administering the duties of a king might do II wrong, we have attached to this[...]fearing that we· might .weary the committee· by a further record of ·. the evidence while, in fac[...]' will, two copies of which is hereto attached as a part of said transcript, was made and obtaine<l[...]of Koon-Ka-zah-chy was not in n condition to make a will. · Respectfully submitted.[...]'l!h.e-tr. attO,~ney. .. . I P. />·r A'kd we ask tbe committee. to .tile tbeir 't1ndh1g[...]pud I~ t!te om,c,e of .,the Qoxp~1ssioner. ?; Ind1a,q Affairs o.r the Secretary of. the Interior.[...]ould bav,e accomp_anfed this t ~anscrlpt with atn.a avits as ,to'. 'how. 'tlie will was made, but we[...]sposition -of my property and iµlalrs while I ,h.a ve sufficl.e nt mental,capaclty to _do so, do J1e[...]alepah, my un- divided one-half iute1·est in the a!IQtment of my deceased wife, 'l'a tab ti men, alloi.meot No.. 9468, describe[...] |
| [...]e worrying for feor some person might claim to be a relative of bis and try to break the will. The[...],·011. I hereby certify that the foregoing Is a true and complete copy. ·[...] |
| [...]. ✓ Q. \Vhat Is your name nnd residcnce?-A .. Allie M·. Brennan, Apache, Okla. Q. Are you the tleld mnlron In the Indian Setvlce located at A1lache'l--c-A. ,Y es. Q. l:Iow long have you held thnt position ?-A. Over 12 years. . " Q. ,vcr[...]nhited with Koon•kah•zab-cby or Apache John ?-A.. :Yes. Q. How Jong hncl you known him ?-A. 1''rom · the time I · came to Apache .until he died. Q. Diel he reside in your distrlct ?-A. Some of the time. Q. Was his allotment In your district?-A. No. Q. Do you know anything about a will executed by Koon-kah-zah-chy or Apache John under date of Noveruber 16, 1027?-A. Yes. Q. "'ere you present at the time that will was executed ?- A. Yes. Q. Where was it executed ?-A. At tlie home of Alonzo Chalepah . . . Q. \Vhere. was that?-A. About 5 miles northwest of Apache. · Q. How did you happen to be nt that pince at that time?-A. I was sent for. Q. \Vho sent for you ?-A. Apache John. Q. How <lid he sen<l?-A. Wor<l was left at my home while :I was out on du[...]wanted to see me. Q. Did they say what for?-A. No. Q. Do you know who brought the message ?-A. No. · Q. Was It a note?-A. No; they just left word ·that he wanted to see me. Q. Who was the party nt your home that was told ?-A. I don't recall, 'but I suppose It was one of my[...].. Q. H ow long a fter you got thnt message was it before you went out there?- A. I t was just a short time; ns soon as I ate my supper. . Q. Did anyone go out there with you ?-A. Yes: my daughter, Aileen Bren- nan, went along.[...]~·ou found Koon-knb-zah-chy there, didn't you?-A. Yes. · · Q. Who else was tbere?-A. There were several there; I don't recall all of them. Q. \Vho were some of them ?- A. One of the renters, a white inan : Clarence Stiirr, an Apache Indian: a[...].. . Q. " 'ho do you mean by the family?-A . .Alonzo Cbalepah's family. Q. "'as his wife there?-A. Yes ; and there were several in U1e kitchen that[...]Q. Could Koon•kllh·?,llll-chy spenk English?-A. Very little. Q. You had to use au interpreter to talk to him, <lid you?- A. Yes. Q. Wbnt was the tlrst thing you did after arriving tbere?- A. I asked Ap,1~he J ohn what he wanted. . Q. ,vhat did be say?- A. He snid be wanted me to draw up a will for him . Q. Wlio <lid you use for lnte11>reter?-A. Clarence St.arr and another Apache I ndian whose[...]When Apache John told you be wnnte<l you to make a will for him what did ,·on do?- A. I nske,l how. · Q: " ' hat <lid he say?-A . He sahi just as r ou find it itJ the will.[...]now wbnt he said about disposing of his proverty?-A. I remember ihat he wanted his own allotment to b[...]Q. ,vas Henry Red Bone present at that time?-A. I don't recnll; but he bad been there at differe[...]ou draw u1> the will for bim as he wanted you to?-A. Yes. Q. Did you do it at tbat timc?-A. No: tbe next morning. Q. Di<I you take" typewriter out there with you that nlgbt?-A. No. Q. The next morning ~·011 wrote the will on the typewriter, <lid you?-A. Yes. Q. At whnt pince <lid you do that?-A. At my bome. I took down notes the night b[...] |
| [...]interpreter. , Q. You took down notes with a pencil, did you ?-A. Yes. Q. The dlstrlbutlon of his property w[...]dlall · boy whose name you don't recall, was it?-A. Yes.. . · . Q. I$ t11at other Indian boy here now ?-A. I reenll his name was Robert Tsotncldle. Q. When did you write the will out on the typewrlte, ?-A. 'l'he next mol'niug. Q. What did you do witlt it?-A. I Immediately went to the home of Alonzo Chale[...]Q. \Vbo was that person who interpreted·?- A. Fl'ank or James Twobo; be is called .James Tow[...]th you to the place oJ Alonzo Chalepah, dlcl he?- A. He drove ln a car of his own and brought his wife. Q. .\Vb[...]thing you did after arriving· with the will ?-A. I inquired about how he wns feeling and I had[...]o Interpret the will to Apache .John, did you?- A. Yes. Q. You clon't spenk or understand Apache, do you ?-A. I understand some words, but don't speak It.[...]John, did Apache J obn say anything about it ?-A. I hnd the interpreter ask him if that was the[...]after it hnd been read nncl explained to him ?-A. Yes. • Q.. Diel you see him make his thumbmark to t11ls will ?-A. Yes. Q. Did you sign your name ns II witnes[...]and in the presence of the other ,Yitne.<;..';?-A. Yes. 1 • • • Q. Who was the other wltness?-A. ,My daughter, ,Alleen Brennan. Q. Did she sign her name as a witness .after it bad been •signed by Apache Jobn. at his request, In bis presence and In your preseoce?-A. Yes. " 0 Q. Wbo were tbe persons present in tbe[...]was telling you how be wanted bis will made·/-A. I don't.. reeall,< because there were. a number of people. but I do remember Clarence St[...]ay .was ,there that night. One ot the l'entcrs, a white man, was there also.[...]ature, "Allie ir. Brennan," is your s ignnturc?- A. Yes; that Is my signature. .[...]how be sboul<l make bis will, so fur as you know?-A. No. Q. Had you been to the pince of Alonzo Chalepah frequently?-A. Yes. Q. How long had Apache J obn been staying there before he macle the will?- A. He had been U1ere and at Ko-sope's all tall.[...]Alonzo Chalepah live near each other, do tbe~·?-A. Yes; they live on the same allotment. Q. H[...]zab-chy often up to the time the will was made?- A. F requently. Q. Was he in good health at tbe time be made this will ?- A. No. Q. ,vas be confined to bis bed ?- A. Part of the time. Q. When be told you bow be wanted bis will made, was be lying down or sit- ting up?-A. I think be was sitting in a rocking chair at that time. Q. Did be nppea1[...]he was telling bow to dispose of bis property ?-A. Yes. · Q. The next day when be signed the wil l, did he a.p pear to be of sound mind and disposing memory?-A. Yes. Q. So far as you know, bad be always appeared to be of sound mind and dis- posing memory?-A. Yes. |
| AA. Yes. Q. Did he give any reason for wanting to give his land to tl1osc two cbll- dren ?- A. Yes; he mentloncd the fnct that tl1e family hnd been taking care of him and also his wife for quite a whlle when they wet·e sick, and that be was to[...]ed to give Henry Red Bone some of bis property?-A. Only mentioned the fact that Henry Red Booe bad[...]. Q. Do you know noyt11ing nbout a former will made by Koon-kab-,, nh-chy?- A. I t·emeruber wheo ·1t was destroyed. .. Q. Were you present when be destroyed it?-A. Yes. Q. Who destroyed lt?-A. Kooo-knh:zah-chy. Q. At what pince was he tbeo?- A. At the farmer's station at A1>ncbe. Q. ,vho wa$ the farmer then ?-A. Mr. S. A. Cook: Q. Did Koon-knh-z.ah-chy sny why he wunted to destroy tbat will ?- A. He had been to the agency office and mnde bis[...]er 16, 1927, di<I be ever make n lntc1· will ?-A. Not to my knowledge. . Q. Did[...]his hon1e with Alonzo Chalepah 1111til he died?- A. Yes.[...]d you say that James Towho Interpreted the will ?-A. Ye;;. Q. You knew he was a cousin of Alonzo Chalepah, didn't you ?-A. No. Q. Yo11 know It is a common, reputation lo tlte Apache Tribe that they are cousins, don't you ?-A. Tbls Is the first time I ever beard lt. Q.[...]e bad the hearing before Mr. Buebanoo, did yon ?-A. No ; l didn't pay attention to everyt11lng tbat[...]ask James Towbo if be. wns related, didn't you ?-A. Yes. Q. And did be say "No "?-A. Yes. Q. If he misrepreseot,xl ,01111 said .[...]uld you .r ely on him for anything else he said ?-A. I don't know anything about them being related,[...]old yon the trutlt when be Interpreted the wlll?- A. I won't know until it is proven different. Q. Yon don't know be told lite truth, do you?-A. Be told me he was not related. Q. \Vhen he[...]ted to give the property to them or uot, do you?-A. I took his word tor It. · Q. If he would tell you a folscbood in regard to hL~ relationship, could yo[...]to the fa<.1$ as to how to divide the property ?-A. He has told others the same. Q. Yon don't k[...]'t say that he Interpreted It right, could you ?- A. Not uoless I understood the Apache language.[...]Jomes Towho to interp1-et the will, didn't you?- A. Yes. Q. Do you know it to be a fact that Koon-kah-znh•chy said he wanted to dlsposo of his proi:>erty this wny?- A. I ba\'e .James 'l'owho's word for It. Q. H ow did Koon-k11h-z11h-clly pince his thumb 011 the papcr?- A. I don't recall just the exact way. Q. 'l'ell[...]thumb on the paper wheu be was signing the will.- A. I don't recall. Q. Now, to refresh your mome[...]that Jame.~ Towho p11t. his thumb on the 1>n1>cr?-A. I don't remember. Q. Don' t you remember whe[...]fore )Ir. Buchanan and thitt was your tes timony?-A. I don't remember. |
| [...]blind." Did you answer thnt,question thnt wny,?-A. I don't remember . .. Q. You knew Koon-kah-zah[...], ' ' ·,. Q. \Vhy didn't you ?- A. Because' he told me ·he had no living descendan[...]understand .that there are collateral relntlons?- A. He said ·11e had no living reltl'.tlves.[...]· · . Q. Do you mean he said tbat?.- A. Yes; I do. . Q. You as[...]old man had any 1ivil1g,' relailves, did yo11·1-A. James Towho rend the will and interpreted it. Q. \Vhnt did James Towho say about the relntions?-.A:. l asked Apache John before he signed the .will[...]); apout Apache John not having any rela- tions?-A. I don't recall. .[...]id you know he didn't have any ·uving relatlves?-A. The night that I asked how he wanted to dispose[...]1·egard to his relations, because in drawing up a will we always have to state why anybody disinhe[...]er or not he had any living relations, did you ?-A. Yes ··• Q, And he said he didn't have aDY; did he?-A. Yes. Q. You said awhile ago that his mind appeared to be good, didn't you ?-A. Yes. Q 'If he did have living relations an[...]~!~s b~sn~el~:~!t tb~m. would his mind be good ?- A. I am not i.n .position to say, Q. You think that a man who forgets his relations entirely has a good mind, do you ?-A. He made a statement to me that he wanted to see General Sco[...]must have been very bad, awfully bad, wasn't lt?- A. No; but be recalled eYery Instance when be was a scout under ~neral Scott. Q. Now, just when did you think of that story?-A. I baYe thought of It a number of times; I also have heard of it from Gen[...]rry with reference to the time the will was made?-A. He mentioned it on different visits Q. Who Interpreted that conversation?-'-A, l don't recall just who was there; but one time[...]remember who interpreted the conversation. I mnde a number of visits there and dif- ferent ones inter[...]just had to take their word for it, didn't you ?-A. I considered them reliable. If one can't speak E[...]You can't tell who lnte1·preted that, can you?- A. Not that time, because there were several times;[...]be sure to shut Tennyson Berry out, didn't yon ?-A. No. Q. You knew according to that conversati[...]was re- latc1l to Koon-kah-zah.;:hy, didn't you ?-A. No. Q You don't know from that conversation that the old man was conceding something, do you ?-A. No. Q. If Koon-knh•zah-<:hy said that Tenn[...]<I yon that story. he made n mistake, didn't he ?-A. He didn't tell me that they were related. Q. !f Koon-kah-zah-.:by told that in a letter to the agency that Tennyson l'lerry was bis relative and then told you that story he told a lie one time, didn't he?-A. Indians claim relations that are not blood kin.[...]field matron attached to the will], didn't you ?-A. Yes. |
| [...]IN UNITED STATES Q. When did you sign lt?-A. I don't recall ; a statement always bas t o be |
| [...]allotment and each piece of land he had, did he ?-A. Be told me the dlltereot pieces of land. Q. D[...]you got an: of that from the agency, didn't you ?-A. I don't .recall, ·but I frequently do when I do[...]you said you got it from the agency, is It true?-A.' I don't understand you,· statement.[...]at tile agency before you wrote the a will, Is that fact?-A. Yes; if I made that statement it ls a tact. Q. You don't remember making that statement, do you ?-A. I don't recall. If it is in the will I made it o[...]he paper, when he made thnt mark who was by hlm?- AA. Yes. Q. Do you know whose•tbumb wns put on t[...]e had· the thumb mark of Koon• kn1l-zah-chy on a lett'ct· that was slgried by Im a nti It was different from the thumb mark o,n the will and you said you could see a dlJfereuce between the thumb mark on the letter and the thumb: mark on the will, don't you remember that?-A. I don't recall that. I •[...]ou remember thnt the thumb mark on the will ·was a great deal larger than the thumb mark on the letter?-A. I don't recall it. The thumb matk on the will sh[...]· Q. Who was present when tbe will was made?-A. I don't recall all that were in the room. • Q. Who took pat·t in making the wlll?-A. James Towho interp1·eted the will. ¥Y daughter[...]re In the room at that time, didn't you say that?-A. I don't recall nil that were in the room,, but u[...]u don't know what you did at that time, do you ?- A. I don't recall. (Questions suggested by Theod[...]'s Children that were made legatees In the will ?-A. I think Alfred Chalepah was about 16 at that tim[...]· Q. How old was your daughter at that tlme?- A. She was 19 years old. Q. Was she 19 years old at the time the will was witnessed ?-A. Yes. Q. Have you since learned what relation Clarence Starr ,vas to Alonzo Chalepah ?-A. No; I don't know. Q. Hnve you since learned what relat1011 that I11dian boy, called Robert, was?-A. No; they just said they were relatives, but they[...]you as to what to put in the will, didn't you ?- A. Yes. Q. Was Alonzo Chalepah present when Clare[...]t Indian boy, Robert, was interpreting for you ?- A. He was .at the home, but I don't recall that he[...]o the numbers of the land you prepared the will ?-A. Yes. Q. And then you took James Towho out there as interpreter, did you?- A. Yes. Q. Really of your own knowledge you don't[...]er be interpreted It correctly or not, do ·you?- A. I had to rely up0u him. |
| [...]pache John's mind tllnt you would have If he were a wblte person . iwd. could converse with you, would you ?-A. Not quite. A. person's conversation Is very , often an indlcat[...]when you went back was anything else ever snld?- A. Once before he mentioned the fact that he was go[...]didn't say bow he was going to d1·nw it, did be?-A. No. , Q. Be died about 18 days after the[...]ut making this will, except merely to mention it?-A. Be mentioned that he didn't think that he was going to get well, and that he thought he would make a will. Q. Be didn't say about wbo It was going to be made to, did he ?-A. Not that I recall. Q. He didn't mention anythi[...]ut or anything of that kind at tbnt time, did he?-A. Not that I recall. Q. That Is the only time you ever beard him say anything about making a will, isn't lt?-A. Yes. . Q. You ne,-er heard about it at any other time, did you?-A. No; be never mentioned the will afterwards. Q.[...]ith him until he did have the will made, did be ?-A. No.[...]Eo,at»l11er of Inh.eritance. A11..1-:3-:n Dm:~NAN, being sworn. testified ft $ follows: Q. \Vhnt is your name und resideucc·1- A. Alleen Brennan; I lire at Apache, Okin . Q. Are you over 18 years of ni,ee?-A. Yes. Q. \Vere you over 18 years of age on November 16, 1927?-A. Yes. Q. Did you know Koon-kuh-zah-cby, or Apache Jobn?- A. Yes. Q. Is ypu1· mother Mrs. Allie M. Brennan,[...]the time she had n will exeeuted for Apache Jobn?-A. Yes. Q. Did you sign your nume us a witness to that will at that tlme?-A. Yes. Q. Did you sign your name as a witness at the n>quest of AJ>nche John, in bis presence and in the presence of the other witnes.~?-A. Yes. · Q. I hand you the will referred[...]signature, "Aileen Bren- nnu," is your signature?-A. Yes; that is my Signature. (Questions suggeste[...]ney:) Q. \Vhere did you so from to that place?- A. \Ve went from home to there. Q. How l<mg were you there before the will was made?- A. I don't remember. Q. Who asked you to go?-A. I suppose my mothe,·; sbe usually nsks me to go[...]n't ask me. Q. Oo you remember wl10 wns there ?-A. No. Q. \Vho was it nsked you to be a witness to this will ?- A. I don't recall. Q. You don't know who asked you, do you?-A. I don't recnll. (Questions by exnminer of Inhe[...]tcr it had been read to hitn by the interpreter?- A. I don't reenll, but I was in the room all of the[...]er he put his thumb on the paper or uot, do you?- A. No; I don't remember. (Questions by 'l'[...] |
| [...]word fo1·,you1· mother to go to AJ)ache John's?-A. I· don't rccull. Q. Do you kno"; who left ,,,ord th~re·/-A. I don't know what Indian it wns; I don't ))UY at[...]: Q. What ls your nam_e, age, and rcsidcnce?- A. J ames Towho; I nm about 32 years old and live west of AJ)achc, Okla. Q. To what tribe do you belong?-A. A1>ache. Q. Diel you know Koon-kab-zah-cby or Ap,tche Johu?- A. Yes. Q. \Vere you present ut the time he executed a will under dute of November 16, 1927?-A. I wasn't there when be drew the will but I wus t[...]ou were there when he signed the will, were you ?-A. Yes. Q. ,vho else was there at that time?-,\,[...]n and her daui;hter. Q. Where was that place?- A. At Alonzo Cllalepnb's home. Q, How did you happen to be there'/- A. Mrs. Brennan asked me to go over there with her[...]Q. \Vhen was it .Mrs. Brennan asked you lo go?- A. Right after the will was Illllde. Q. Did you go the same day she asked you ?-A. Yes. Q. Wbe,·e were you when she asked you ?- A. Just leaving Apache. Q. Did you go out there In the snme car wi th her ?-A. No. Q. Did you go ahead or· after ber?- A. After her. Q. She got t11ere before you did, did she?- A. Yes. Q. Did .Mr·s. Brennan have n will written out on a typewriter when you got there?-A. Yes. Q. \Vhat did she say to you after you got there?-A. I can't remember all she said, but she asked me to ask the old 111a11 If he knew what be was doing and the Old man sa[...], 11 Yes." Q . You rend and write, don't you ?- A. A little. Q. Did you rend that will over to Koon-knh-znh-chy or Apache .Tohn?-A. I enn~t remember, I think Mrs. Drennan was readi[...]l and you lnte11>reted as sbe rend It, did yon ?- A. Yes. Q. Did you sny anything to him a(ter you bad finished interpretlng?-A. No. Q. Did be say anytbing?- A. He said be bad made a wiil. Q. I hand you the will refen·ed to and[...]er that she bad rend to Apache John at that tlme?-A. Yes. Q. Do you recall what that will said as to the disposition of his property?- A. Yes. Q. \Vhat did it say?- A. Just what Koon-kah.zah-cb~• said. Q. How did it dispose of the J)ro1>erty?- A. 'l'bese folks that were here, Henry Ued Bone and[...]r or not that will met with Iris ap- pro,•al ?-.A. I don't know. Q. Did Apache John say whether or not thnt was the wny he wnnted bis will mnde?- A. Yes; that is just what be sntd. Q. Did you tell Apache John just exactly what Mrs. Brennan told you?-A. Yes. Q. Did he make h is thumb ma1·k to t11nt will after you had Interpreted !t?- A. Yes. Q. Did you see him ?- A. Yes. Q. Did you sign your name to that will ns interpreter after be had made b is thumb mnrk?-A. Yes. Q. I hand you the .will 1•efen·ed to[...]signature, " J ames Towho," is your signnttn·e?- A. Yes. Q. Did you see Apache Jobri often?-A. I saw him when he would go to town and I[...] |
| [...]ow far did you live from Alonzo Chalepab's place?-A. About 3 miles. Q. At the time Apncbe John executed this will was he In good bea}th . or not?-A. He was all right when I went there. · • Q. ,vas be well and strong?-A. Yes; be got up ancl' walked, b11t be couldn't see. Q. ,vas he lying down when you got tbere?-A. He was slttiDg up, but, he bad to lay down and r[...]any before you began telling him about the will ?-A. l shook hands with him. Q. Did be know you ?-A. He knew me after I told hln1 who .x was. Q. Did be 5'lem to be of sound mind at tltat tlme?-A. Yes. •' Q. Did he always appear to be so, so far as you know?-A. Yes.. . Q. Did anybody make a ny suggestions to him about .this will ·w bile )'OU were there ?-AA. No. Q. \\'as A1>ache J ohn related to you?-A. Not that I know of. Q. Is Alonzo Chalepah relatecl to you ?-A. I don't know. Q . Have you any Interest In th!S matter?- A. No. (Questions suggeste<I by W. R. \Vbeeler,[...]ie M. Brennan that the old man had no relations ?-A. \Vhntever he said I told her. Q. Did yon tell Allie r.1. Brennan that the old man ha<l no relatlons?-A. I couldn't say. Q. Did you tell Allie M. Bren[...]not related to Alonzo Chnlepah or his children ?-A. No. Q. Then lf she said that, she was mistaken ; wns she ?-A. Site must be. Q. In fact eYerybo<lS knows thnt you and Alonzo 011alepah are cousins, don't they?- A. I don't know. Q. You do know it, don't you?- A. No. Q. You knew that day that you were Alonzo Chnlepab's cousin. didn't you? A. I don't know. Q. You know that Is a common reputation, don't you?-A. I don't know. Q. You didn't tell her that you weren't relatecl to him, did you?- A. No. Q. Are you sure of tbat?- A. Yes. Q. Which nre related to you-Alon,,0 Chalepah or the chlldren?- A. I don't know. I have no idea. Q. You don't say you nre not related, do you ?-A. Not to me. Q. You wouldn't say you were not related, would you ?- A. No. Q. Do yo11 know what relation Tennyson Berry was to Koon-knh-zab-ehy ?- AA. I guess so; I don't know. Q. You knew the old man was related to Tennyson Berry, didn't you ?-A. I don't know for sure. Q. You knew It so well[...]s. Brennan that they weren't rela ted. did you ?- A. I coul<ln't ~11y for sure, but I always heard th[...]. Q. They lived together a great deal of the time, didn't they?-A. I don't know, but I heard they went there and vi[...]'t read the statement you signed before, did you?-A. Which statement? Q. That statement to the will, did you rend !t?- AA. I looked it over. Q. You signed It at her suggestion, didn't you?-A. I had to sign lt, because she asked me to. Q. You don't know what was lo the statement, do you ?-A. In the will. Q. In the statement to the wlll.- A. Not hardly. Q. You didn't know nt that time, did you?-A. No. Q. Bow <lid Alleen Brenn no come to sign this will ?- A. I don't kuow: I gne.s s her mother asked ber to. Q. You didn't ask her, did you?-A. No. |
| [...]er, only• Mrs. Brennan asked her, didn't she?- A. Yes. , Q. And thnt was nil the re9ncst she had, · wasn't lt?-A. That is nil I know.[...]the old m.nn didn't ask 'her to sign It, did he?-A. No. Q. The old man didn't nsk Allie M. Brennnn to sign the will either, did he?- A. No. Q. She had It and just signed It; isn't that it?- A. Yes. Q, He never told' you to tell her to sign it, did he?-A. No. Q. Yon were Interpreter, weren't you?- A. Yes. Q. You just did whatever she told you to, didn't you·1- A. Y~s. . Q. Now, you say here: "I hereby cer[...]e1·y respect:" And you hadn' t rend It, had you?-A. No. ,Q. You really d.i dn't know what was In the will, do you?-A. I just heard wha t sb'e told me. ·Q: But when you signed It be didn't' ask you to sign it, did he?-A. No. Q. He didn' t nsk :Mrs. Allie 111. Brennan to sign, did he ?- A. No. 'Q. He dl<ln't ask Alleen Brennan to sign, did he?-A. No. · Q. He didn't tell you tu tell them !o sign, did he ?- A. No. Q. How often do you· visit Alon·zo Chnlepah?-A. Not very often. Q. .You and be visit regulqrly, don't you?-A. No. Q. How 'iong had it been since you wer[...]rior to the time yoµ ;signed this stntement?--;-A. I was .t here the winter before. Q. You and be were speclnl friends, weren't you?-A. We were just friends. Q. Who is your fnthei·?-A. Tow-ho. Q. Who is· your fathe1· related to, Alonzo Chnlepab or his wife?-A. I don' t kno,y and ,l don't remember'. Q[...]witn ess ·stand nnd didn't deny It, didn't you ?-A. I don•~ know.[...]you are not related to him; would you, say that?-A. No. ·· (Questions suggested bY Theodore Prui[...]me· this will was supposed to hove been signed?- A. He said he was making a will to these parties. ' Q. ·what parlies?-A. Henry Red Bone, and I have forgotten the others. Q. He sald he was mnklng a will to them, did be?-A. Yes. Q. How Jong bad be been living at Alonzo Chalevah's nt t11at tlme?-A. J don' t know, but be bad been there nil of the[...]ah in the house when the will was being signed 7- A. Yes. Q. Was be In the room ?-A. We were all t11er,~ together In the same room. Q. Could he hear what was being said ?- A. Yes. Q. And the will was. signed In the house, was lt?-A. Yes. . Q. Where was l\1rs. Brennan's daughter?-A. Sb'e was right there with us in the same room .[...]·, attorney.) Q. \Vbere was Rose Chalepah ?-A. Sbe was right there. (Questions suggested[...]ny relation to Rose Chalepah or Alonzo Cbalepnb ?-A. Yes. Q. What did you tell her?-A. I told her I wasn't related. Q. When this wi[...]read lt or did you read it to Koon-kall-zah,ehy?-A. She read It. Q. While she was reading It to you did you Interpret what she said to Koon-kah-zab-cby?-A. Yes. Q. And after It wns all through with di[...]hat was exactly the way be wanted the will made ?-A. Yes. Q. You didn't tell irr~. Brennan that be wanted to give a piece of land to that child and a piece to this child, but when the will was[...] |
| [...]tl thnt way the wny he wnntcd it made. did you?- A. Yes. (Questions suggested by Frank Burns l\1[...]etcd tltllt will to Koon-kab-znh--chy, did yo11 ?-A. I explained it to him. Q. Dl<I you understand the will you,·self?-A. \Vhatever she asked me. Q. You 11nderstnn() English fluently, do yo11 ?-A. No. Q. How did you interpret?-A. \Vhatever I could catch. ·[...]y •· ; can you explain just what tJ/-at means?-A. Not l1ardly. · Q. How did you explain then ?- A. Mrs. Brennan made it plain. Q. What do you mean by making it plain ?-A. She might say "honor" and I wouldn't know what t[...]so that you could explain it to Koon-kah.zah-chy?-A. Sbe said that be loved those little fellows aud[...]You d idn't explain It like It was here, did you?-A. Mrs. Brennon made it~a~.[...]n·t know bow you would say that In Apache do you-A. I just get It ns near as I cnn. Q. You didn't get It like It was In the will, did you ?- A. Some words we can't say In Apache aud just have[...]d explain It aud make Apache .John u nderstand ?- A. Yes. Q. You understand Eugllsb fluently, do you?- A. Not very much. Q. I would like for you to tnk[...]e will know how you explained it 10 Apache Joho?- A. I can't explain every word In there. Q. Can you read it ?-A. I just pick out words that I know, but the otheN[...]other words, you don't know what was in the wlll?-A. Just what Mrs. Brennan explained to me. ·[...]xplnlnerl It to Apache Jobn that way, would you?- A. She bad t11e will in her hand. Q. Can you explain that will there In your band ?-A. Only j ust what I know. ( Questions suggested[...]rt of the property was to go to Alfred Chalepah ?-A. Yes. Q. Do you remember that Mrs. Brennan said[...]t part of the property would go to Ase Chalepah ?-A. Yes. Q. Do you remember that Mrs. Bre11u,u1 to[...]y was to go to Henry Red Bone and Rose Chalepah ?-A. Yes. (W. R. " 'heeler, attorney, objected to t[...]at they were to get tbnt property, dld.n't you ?- A. No: not until I got there that day. Q. They were ull there belpiug muke the will, weren't tbey?-A. I don't know. Q. Now, you koow they were all helping make t.he w11I. don't you ?-A. No. Q. Why don't you know that ?-A. I don't know.[...]lows: Q. Wbnt Is your name, age, and resldence?-A. Se-tine or Tennyson Berry; I am about 4S years o[...]ort Cobb, Okla. Q. To what tribe do you belong?-A. Apache. Q. Did you know Koon-kah-zab-chy or Apache John?-A. Yes. |
| [...]ATES 7395 Q, Is he li\'iug?-A. No: he died, I think he died, In December of 1926. Q. \Vas he ever marri<>d?-A. Yes; he hl\d one wife that I know of, Tt\· tah-ti-zez. Q. \Vhnt became of her?-A. She di(,>(1 nbout n year be(ore Apache John died. Q. Atte1· she <lied, did he marry ngniu?-A. No. Q. Did he Jiave any cl1ildre11 by her?-A. No. Q. Did he ever haven child by nny woman?- A. No. Q. Did be ever adopt n child ?-A. No. Q. Where wns he resid'ing nt the time of his deatb'/-A. \Vest of A1>achc. Q. \Yho was be living with at that tlme?-A. Alonzo Chalepah. Q. How long had he been staying a t the place· of Alonzo Chalepnh before he <lied ?- A. I don't know. Q. \Vhere were you stnylng at the time Apache ,John died ?-A. At uiy home whel·e I live now. Q. Is thnt on you r own allotment?-A. Yes. Q. How fa r from Fort Cobb Is that?-A. About 3 mi les west of J,'ort Cobb. Q. Do you claim an Interest In the estate of Apache John?-A. Yes. Q. On wh,,t grounds do you base your cluhn?-A. He was my relation. Q. Is that the only ground you hnve 'for claiming nn interest in his cstnte?- A. I phld some of my money for h im. Q. Do you mean you hnve a cllllm to be reimburse<l for whnt you did for him -011t of his estate?-A. Yes. Q. Are those the only claims you ha"e, relutioosbip 11nd relmbursement?- A, Yes. Q. Whrtt .relatlon was Apnche John to you?- A. I thiuk, according to white people's ways, be wa[...]was be 1-elutcd, to your futher or your mother?- A. My mother: Q. " ' ho was your motbe'r ?-A. E•lnh'-tn. Q . \Vhen did sbe die?- ,\ . She[...]Q. ,vas thnt before allotments were made here?-A. Yes. Q. ,vas Apache John related to your mother's father or your mother's mother?-A. 'l'o her mother. Q. , vho wns your mother's ruother?-A. Sle-luh. Q. ls Sie·hlh livlug-A. No; she dled a good many years ago. Q. Did you ever see her?-A. No. Q. How was Apache John related to Sle-lah?-A. '!' here were two sisters, -one called Head In Water and the other Ued Womnn; Red \Vomnn wns the mother of A1>ache John, and Head In \Vater was a sister of Red \Vomnu. Q. How was Head In Water related to Sie-lah ?-A. Sle-lab was a daughter of Head in " 'ater. Q. Did you know Red \Voman or Head in \Vnter?- A. I Just ~aw Head· in \Vnter, but didu't see Red \Vomnu. Q. How old we1·e you when Head in Water died?- A. I was going to the Kiowa school here when sbe di[...]\Vomau have tbe same father and the same mother?- A. Yes. Q. How do you know that?-A. Tbe history. Q. What hlstory?-A. The family history. Q. Do you have that family history here with you ?-A. No. Q. ,vas it printed or merely oral ?-A. Just Indinn hlsto1·y and wasn't printed; neither was It written out. Q. \Vho told you about this?-A. My folks. Q, \Vhlch one ?-,\. These Old J)CO![...]those old people that told you livlug now·1- · A. No. Q. Did Red \Voman hn"e auy other sister or any b,·others besides Head in \Vnter ?-A. I don't thin.k so. Q. Did Head io " ' ater bnve a ny other children besides Sie-lnh ?-A. Yes: she had a son, Red Ar row, who died before allotment. Q. Did you you ever see Red Arrow ?-A. Yes. Q. Did Red Arrow have a ny childreu ?-A. Yes; I know or oue li"ing now. Q. ,vho !~ that onc?-A. Lucy Sahlabzah or Rena Boing. Q . How many children did $le-lab bave?-A. I just know ot one. Q. \Vho was that ooe?-A. My mother. Q. How many children did your mother have?-A. Two; my sister and myself. Q. Who wos your sister?-A. Cynthia F rakes or Sah-mah. |
| [...]IN UNITED STATES Q. When did your sister dle?-A. Before allQtment. · |
| [...]ood health nt -thnt time outside of being blind"/-A. Pretty tolr. • . , Q., Wns he able to walk around?-A. Yes. . Q. H[...]ve to have some,one to tnke care of him; di<l Hc?-A. Yes; he had to have some one lead him around. A. He could nud~ess himself·, couldn't be?- A. Yes. .. . Q. When did you say you took him fro/D .your pince to Ko-sope's?- A. About J uly. ,. Q. What year ?-A. 1026. Q. Was It the July just before his death ?-A. Yes. Q. And It was the next October that be was staying nt the pince of Henry Re<l Bone, was lt?-A. Yes. Q. Henry Red Bone Is known ns Ne-kl-esh or Henry Tselee. is he?- A. Yes. Q. When be was staying at the place or Henry Red Bone, would you talk with him ?-A. YC$. Q. Did be talk to you ?-A. Yes. Q. Diel you understand •hlm?-A. Ye$. Q. Dl<l he talk lntelligently?- A. Pretty fair. Q. He understood whatever yon said to him, dl<l he?-A. Yes. Q. Diel be seem to be well physically with the exception or being bllncl ?- A. He was pretty sick then, but was not iJl be<I. Q. Could lie walk around?- A. Very, llttle. Q. Did some one have to !encl bim?- A: Yes. Q. That was on aeeount of him being blind, wasn't lt?- A. No; he " '88' pretty sick then. Q. Did bis m[...]e condition It was when he stayed at your place?-A. No. Q. What was the dltrerence?- A. He was sutrerlng. and was not like ·he used· t[...]You mean be was suffering physically, don't you?-A. Yes. Q. You said he talked intl)UigenJJy, didn't lie?-A. Yes; when be ,at down- and thought- but he was sick then. , Q. He wasn't clear, was be?-A. He wns pretty bard to bear, Q. If you talkecl loud be could unclerstancl, coul<l he?- .A. Yes. , Q. Diel Apache John ever say anything to you about making a ivill?-A. Yes. Q. ''l'ba~ did he, say?-A. Be said, "·Grnndson .. I apprecln!:(- what you[...]say. Q. When clicl that conversation occu1·?- A. That was about one year before bis wife died. . Q. Did he make a ,viii nt that tlme?-A. Yes. Q. \\'bo clld be will bl~ property. to ?-A. To me. . Q. How l[...]t conversation wns it before he made the will ?-:-A. About two months, or· something like . that. Q. \\' here cllcl that conversation occut•?....:.A. -At his home. Q. That was on his allotment nenr Alden, wns lt?-A. Yes: Q. Who was he living with at that tlme?- A. \Vith his wife. Q. :Wns anyone. else present besides you ancl his wl!e?- A. Henry Reel Bone- was there. Q. How did you ha1>Pcn to be tbere?-A. He sent (or me. Q. \Vliere was that will made ?-A. At the agency office here. Q. Were you present when it was mnde?-A. No. Q. Did you know \vho wrote the will out for Apache John?- A. No. Q. Diel you ever see that will "/-A. Yes; l saw It after it was approved. Q. Had A[...]e with you at any time before that wlll was made?-A. Yes; nil or the time. Q. Diel be make his home with you continuously?-A. Just here and there;· when Ju, felt like It.[...]most of the time on bis own allotment, clld be?- A. Yes. · Q. Didn't be nhva~•s live 011 bis own allotment untll his wife, 'l'a-tnb-ti-7,ez. died?.....:A. Yes. Q. Whnt became of the will be made to you ?-A. I think be destroyed It. Q. ,vby <lid be destroy lt?-A. I don't know. |
| [...]d he sny ,111ythh1g to you abo11t destroying it?- A. No. Q. You li,n•e hea rd rend n will slgne<l[...]' provi- sions of this will satisfactory to you ?-A. No. Q. Do you object to the approvnl of this will ?-A. Yes. . Q. On what grounds do )·011 base your objection ?-A. By relation. Q. You object to the will ' being approve<l because he was related to you, do yo11?- A. Yes. Q. Have yo11 any other objection to mal,e to the approval of this will ?- A. Just what 1 was out on him au<l spent for him. I[...]o be reimbursed for money yo11 claim you spent?- .A. Ye:;. , Q. Did you keep any record of money yo11 spent for hlm ?-A. I can't l,eep ac<:onnt or everything. Q. "'hat doctors did you pay ?-A. Docto1"'Tl' ise1· at Apache and I hauled him down here to the agency twice a week to Doctor Hawkins. Q. Did you pay these doctors ,vlth a cbeck?-A. Yes. Q. Do you ha,·e your cnnceled check?- A. No; It has been so long I don't keep It. Q. D[...]n get lease money when' be was stnying with you?- A. I never saw him get nny money while he wns stnyi[...]en this will of November 16, 1927, was executed?- A. No. Q. ,vhen did you first find out about this wlll?-A. 'l'bey told iue just about the time he died that he bnd made a will. Q. Did Apache John tell you that he had made a will?-A. No; Alonzo Chalepah did.[...]Q. Di<I Apache John say anything to you about it?-A. No. Q. Have you any witnesses here to-d,1y'/-[...]tl. Q. Is there anything else you want to sny?-A. Under the first will of Koon- kn-zah-chy or Apa[...]t to be. Q. ,virnt beeamc of thnt first will ?-A. He destroyed it, I s uppose. Q. Do you claim that you should get in under that first will?-A. Yes. Q. If the will is destroye<l liow do you think ~·ou can get in under lt?-A. Be- cause of what I ha,•e done for him. (Qu[...]was It at the request of you or Koch-ka-zah- chy?-A. At the request of the old man. (Questions sug[...]nvc the understanding about him ma\dog the will ?-A. About two years before he died. Q. You mean to say thnt Is the first time that you bad, do you ?- A. He wanted make a will nt that time. . · Q. Dl<ln't you along about 1910 have a n 11nde1-stan<1ing of that kind ?- A. Yes I begin to look after him since 1910. Q.[...]Va9 there anything said at that time about making a will to you If you took care of him-A. He didn' t say exactly, but he knew I was taking[...]now. Q. You commenced taking care of him wben?-A. About 1910. Q. Did you say you paid Doctor \Viser for doctoring llim?- A. Yes. Q. Do you know anything about Harry Hall?- A. Yes. Q. Tell about it ?- A. He was an Indian e~·e doctor and he doctored th[...]Q. ,vhen dhl r o11 pay that to Doctor \Viser ?-A. In the fall of 1912. Q. \Vhat was the matter with Koon-ka-zah-chy when ~·ou pai<l doctor ,v1ser?- A. That was the time he hnd a pretty contagions sickness nnd woui<l hn,·e <Hed[...]. ,vheu was it yo11 paid Doctor ,viser his bill ?-A. Thut was the time about 1912. |
| [...]399 Q. \Vben did you pay Barry Ball Ju~ bill "!-A. \Vhen he doctor Apache Johu about 1915. Q. You say the old mnu stayed witb you at your place, did you?-A. Yes. Very much oil: nnd ou. Q. Did be hnvc nuy money of bis own or did you f1u·nish cverytb :ng·/- A. l furnished everything. Q. You say you brought him to the a gency to Doctor Hawkins about bow rnany tlmes?-A. About three times a week for about tlJree months to doctor bis eyes.[...]s getting old and cnlled my attention to the fact a nd s11id " g randson, you bave always been good t[...]ou." \Va9 anything said about that at tbat tiJne?-A. Yes. Q. \Veil; what was said ?-A . He agree<! to gh ·e me a ll of his proper ty. Q. You mean to say that that time was in the yea,· l.9]0.-·A. Yes. Q. At that time bad he said anything about givi ng you his proverty?-A. Not exactly. Q. '£ell just bow It was?-A. Apache John depended on me for nearly ev.iry- th[...]ing ~·ou his property i( you looked after hiJn ?-A. Yes. Q. ,\fter that about the time be made t he will the conversation wns renewed was it?-A . Yes. Q. Did you do all of these t hings expe[...]you thnt you were going to ,;et hi$ 1>roperty?- .A. Yes. Q. Then tbis last <:onvet·sation was in l"egards to wJlat ~'OU had prc riously talked nbout"/- A. Yes. Q. You say bere iu your claim thnt you w[...]he stnyed near bis allo1me11t, is that ,, fact?- A. Yes. Q. , v11at was that reasonably worth n 3•ear ?-A. $150 or $200 fi year. Q. Now you have him cha[...]ring those ma ny years;_was it worth that money?- A. l don't think $0. Q. \Vbnt do you think it was[...]d his board and lod~ing wns wotth more than that?-A. Sure. Q. You did n great deal of hauling for b im nnd furnished him money did you not?- A. Yes. Q. You say here that it was worth $500; was it worth tbnt?-A. Yes; every bit of it. Q. You say here that it wa& worth $507 for hauling bin., in here to the a gency to be doctored by Doctor Hawkins, was it wor th t hat?- A. Yes. Q. You S..'l~· here that you hau1ed bim[...]~300 for that, do you th ink: it is wort h that?- A. Yes. Q. Now you charge interest on tha t mone[...]unts to $10,351.20. was it worth that much money?-A. Yes. Q. You say thnt )·Ou object to the will[...]1927, to the children named in the will do ~-ou ?-A. Yes. Q. Is your objection due wholly to tile fact that you are a relation or because him mind was not in condition to make n will?-A. His mind was not good. Q. .Flow do you know tbat ltis mind was not in :1 cond it ion to make n w;n·!- A. Because I k now him. Q. \Vhen did his mind take this turn '- A. Soon after his wife died . |
| [...]AT-TE-l'IE-TA,being sworn, testifies as follows : a: 11 , (Called as witness b[...]Q. What is your name, age, and residence?- A. Jle-lat,t~re-ta; I don't know my age[...]live near Apache, Okla, Q. Are you a member .of the Apache Tl'ibe of U1ls agency?- A. Yes. Q. Did you know Koon-kab-zah-cby or Apncbe John?-A. Yes. Q. When did he dle?-A. About three years ago. •I Q. ,vho was his father?-A. Haun-nin-ty, • t Q. \Vho was his mother?- A. Red ,voman. • Q. Who was the father of• Red \Voman ·1- .A. Dah-wo-kah-hn. Q. Who was tbe mother of Red Womnn?- A. Dah-,,·o-nah. Q. Did yon know Dab-wo-nnh ?-A. Yes; I have seen he,-. Q. Did Red \Voman have any brothers or slsters?-A. She bod· some,. but all 11·a ve died. I • Q. Did you know a woman named Head In \Vntcr?-A. Yes. • Q. \Vho were her father aud mother?- A. Dah-wb-kah-ba was bore father, - .....' and Dn[...]\Vomau and .Head In \Vater have the -same father?-A. Yes. Q. Did they huve the same inother·t-A. Yes. Q. Did Head iu \Yater have any children ?-A. Sie-lah was her daughter. Q. Is that th!) only child she bad '/-A. She hnd one more; Red Arrow. ,, Q. Did Red Arrow hnve any childrcn?-A. Yes; but•>11l have died •except one,[...]Q. Did Si~lah have any children ?-A. E-lnh-tn wns her chilcl: ' Q. Did E-lah-ta have any children ?-A. Tennyson Berry, or Se-ttuc is her son[...]• Q. ,vns it n man or woman ?- A. A young mnn.' •• Q. Do you know Frank Burns Methvin ?-A. I don' t know anybody l,y that name.[...]e your name, age, tribe, and pla ce of resldence.-A. J oe Black Bear; about 45; Apache; .A[...]Q. Do you know Alonzo Chalepah?- · .A. Yes. Q. Do you know James Towho?-A. Yes. . Q. Do you kuow what relation Alonzo rind Janres n re, if nny?- A. They are cousins. Q. Do[...]people generally say about them being COllSius ?-A. It was understood that the father of[...]now about this of your own personal knowledi;e·?-A. I 9nly know what I beard.[...]e your name, age, tribe, and place of residence.- A. Bo ab tate tsche, 71, Apache. Apache[...]Q. \Vere you uc,qualuted with Koon kah zab cby?-A. Yes; I ha,·e known -him .siuce I was a gil'l . , Q, Is he living or dead ?-A. He died n month or so ago. I do not know the[...]act date. Q. \l'ns be ever married?-A. Yes; he was married three times. His firs[...] |
| [...]7401 Q, Did ,they have nuy children ·/- AA. Sile died before .Apncbe John. Q. "'ho was the seco,HI wife?- A. Da pea uah was his second wife. Q. Did they have auy childrcn'/-A.. No. Q. .Who was, the . third wlte of Koon kah zah chy?- A. Ta tnh ti ze" wns his third wife. .They were .[...]re allotments. Q. Did they have any children?-A. No. Q, \Vhnt became of T,t tab ti zcz?-.A:. She died ,t year or two ago. Q. Do you know the motbe1· t1nd father of ,\pncbc .J ohu '!-A. I lmew his mother but uot his fathe1·. 'l'hey b[...]Q. Who was the motlier of Koon kah zah chy '!-A. Red Old \Vomnu or Little Red Womau was his mothe[...]on kt1h zah chy have any brothers or siste1•s'/-A. He had two brothers. One brother wns Big 'l'om a[...]nme of the )'Otmger brother . He died when he was a boy. Big 'l'om nnd his children all died before K[...]brotbe,·s or sisters, or did he ever bnve any?- A. I don't know about the father. .Q. Did bis mother have any brothers 01· s iste1·s·?-A. Ued Old \Vomnu bad a sister by the name of Head in \Yater. Head in \Ya[...]h mah, who died before Koon knh zah cby, and \~ft a sou uamed Frank B. ~fethvin, who is stll\ living. Q. Did Koou l<nh z>1b chy ever make a will ?- A. No. Q. Did be evc1· ndopt any children ?-A. No. . Q. Are you related[...]the heirs to -the estate of Koon•knb-znb-cby?- A. Yes. · (Questions by Mr. \Vheeler, attorney.) Q. Do you know Alonzo Cbalepab?-A. Yes. Q. Do you know James Towho?- A. Yes. Q. \Vhat relatiou are Jnmes Towbo and Alouzo Cha\epah?- A. They are cousius by blood, I tblnk. The father o[...]the mother of James Towbo nre brother or sister?-A. I know they didn't ha,-c the snme fnthe1· but I[...]ther or not they bad the same motbe1· or father?-A. I just understood that they were brother and sis[...]KIOWA AO£NCY, 0Kl,A.[...]e your name, occupntiou, nnd place of residencc.- A. T. L. Boles, Gov- ernment farmer, Binger, Okla. Q. Were you acquainted with Koon-kab-znh-cby?- A. I never knew him per- sonally until I mad[...] |
| [...]you prepared the will wbqt di<l you do with It ?- A. I bad It signed nml then nrnilcd it to the l{iow[...]-kab✓~nh-chy. Q. \Vho interpreted the will ?-A. Stewart Klinkole interpreted it. I do not recall[...]Q. Do ~•ou know anything concerning Uils will.-A. l prepared the will and bad it interpreted to Ko[...]e death of bis wife. Q. There Is now shown you a copy of a letter, signed by Koon-knh-znh-eby, written to J. A. Buntin, datc<l January 5, 1927, wherein It Is se[...]ection the facts are fully set out in the letter.-A. I have rcn<l the letter m1<1 the facts set out n[...]atlonshlp <ll<l be say Tennyson Berry wns to him?-A. I do not recall just what be said. Q. Dl<l be tell you that Tennyson Berry was a relative of his? - A. Yes; be snl<l he wns a relntive. Q. ,vhat was the condit.ion of his health at that thne?-A. He ha<! been com•· plaining of grippe. He was[...]tice of writing wills, as to the Interpretation ?-A. l write the will and then have it thoroughly int[...]related to the testator for at.testing wltnesses?-A. Yes. Q. Do you think Uint a kinsmnn Is an interested person - A. Yes. Q. Do Y0\1 conslcler that 11 kinsman of a beneficiary Is lntereste<l?-A. I woutd· think he would be. Q. Then for that[...]void those kind of lnte1·preters nnd witnesses?- A. Yes. Q. If you had gone to take the will of a party and you found no one there to in terpret.but a kinsman, would you tnke the will therc?-A. I would not. (Questions by M. Bristow:)[...]r dead at the time you prepared tile first wlll?- A No ; she was Ii ,·Ing. Q. \Vas his wife living nt the time he made the ln~i will?-A. I don't know- about tile Ins t will. I don't kno[...]E :,;a11,iner of Inheritance. Subscribed and $Worn to[...]Gi,;oRGE i\. '\IV1LSON was thereupon called as a witness and, having been first. duly s"·orn, tes[...]o!lo,vs: S enator FRAZIER. Your na,ne is George A. '\iVilson? l\Ir. ,vu.soN. Yes, sir. Senator[...]ZIER. Yon live near it t l\lr. vVn.soN. ,vithin a half 1nile of it for 25 years. Senator FR.1r.1f:R. Do you ,vant to n1ake a statement in regard to that school to the comrnittee 1 i\fr. vVrLWN. '\!Veil, it might be well to make a statement about that Seger Industrial School for Indians. That school is quite a factor. |
| [...], and Curry Indians over there. I:Ie ,vas n brick a,n d stone mason, and he built thnt institution a.pproli.imately 40 )'ears ago. There has always be[...]y wife and I went up to Iowa, \\•here we h ,ive a little fann and s01ne friends, and we were gone n[...]ad happened there th,it they induced 1ne to write a letter to the secretary of the Senate Indian Com1nittee in regard to it. I did so. I received a report about t.his. After the ren1oval of the age[...]should be done. 'They per- suaded 1ne to ·write a letter to the depar tment. Now, this school is r[...]e-Arapahoe country, and the other one is 90 miles a\\'ay at Concho, and Concho is bui.lcting up at th[...]oose enti rely frorn · any agency and n1ade into a nonresel·vation school. It is a lovely place, everything fine, trees, four sectio[...]our sections of land. I think that they could cut a lot of red tape out, and if they ,vould cu[...] |
| [...]e situation. Mr. BUNTIN. Make it what we call a bonded school¥ ~Ir. WII,SOJ-1. A nonreservation school, they call it. Senator[...]:r. \VILSON. I do not think there is. Cobb Creek, a Sl)ring creek, runs tbroul;!i the whole length of[...]n. Senator THOMAS. You have jurisdiction over a. lot of territory. Does this come under your supervision as a general proposition¥ ~Ir. BuN'l'IN. I am not[...]ould be. The school as it is now handled is under a principal. The principal delegates the work. He p[...]e has charge of the money end of it. It ,vould be a little more expensive to operate in the manner he says. It ·would take quite a little more operating expenses. Senator Tao"'r[...]would require n property clerk; it would require a sta.ff of clerks to run the same kind of office that they run over at the other a rrency. I t is like nny big project, the overhead expense is reduced un'a.er the present system of handling it. There would be just a little increase in the expense to run it t[...] |
| [...]. ,Mr. BUNTIN. Probably not. We ,have a good, man as ._principal over there, and he ,vould have the sa1ne authority as a superrntendeiit over there,. except in connection with purchases. There would be a delay of,a day or two. He could make a, quick ~urchase by phone. There would be a little delay otherwise. He will delegate all, the authority he has. He is a good man there: Fort Sill is on the same basis.[...]asis¥ • Mr.,BUNTIN. Yes; it is •run through a principal that has just about the same authority[...]he recommendations of the principal at Fort Sill ,a nd send them to Washington 1 . l\1r. ·BUNTIN. N[...]N. No, sir. Senator FRAZIER. Some of them have a great deal more land than this.. What would be th[...]modate that many¥ Mr. " 71LSON. They have got a girls' dormitory and a boys' dormi- tory, a good hu:ge building, and capable of being extende[...]nce, but I think he stated that they could handle a co_uple of hundred more-250 or such a number-without any incon- venience. Sen[...] |
| [...]for the simple reason that there has been quite a, lot of-well, I do not know-kind of aa, policy of placing children in public schools "'[...]rally you ,vould _like to see the school kept as a general Indian school, to be patronized by all tribes and built up and 1nade into a. reallv efiiciont businesslike institution i[...]institution that has bee1i there so long. 'fhel'e a.re so many good buildings there and three or four[...]H e built those 'buildings with the Indians with a. brick 1nason and a brick1naker. Senator FRAZIER. I think we can[...]Tins 1natter will be detennined definitely as to a line of policy to be followed immediately. We wil[...]ts. They used to call them Indian agents. That is a fellow who ran through civil service, secured ,vhat we know as a chief clerk's job usually, and then in a short t ime ho is |
| [...]her and he taught me, they will tell you. We have a dist1·ict farme1·. He is a nice fello,v. He gets in his old car and mnkes a trip up to draw his salary. Senator FRAZIER. U[...]The school superintendent is about 45 years old, a inan that seems to have horse sense and pretty le[...]Mr. WILSON. Yes, sir. Senator FRAZIER. This is a copy of a letter addressed to Mr. Charles J. Smith, field r[...]mounts to son1ething. Senator Pun:. H ave they a hospital therei \ · :h1r. WILSON. They have an old hospital. That is a question that came up a'fter this agency was changed to Concho. The super[...]little extensions to the old hospital. There ,vas a hospital built there 40 years ago by :h1r. Segei:[...]available funds, but they turned around and built a 60-bed hospital and four bungalows over at Concho, thouzh. Mr. ' BUNTIN. They set out $12,000 to build a hospital at ,:;eger school. Mr. WILSON. They had this hospital business in the air for a year, but they never got anr, action on it.[...]Senator THOMAS. We might suggest that you have a very efficient ConFman in your district. H ave yo[...]n touch with Mr. McCiintock. Mr. WILSON. He is a nice man and he is a good friend of mine, but I asked him to do something for me and lie said that this was a Republican administration and I do not wan[...] |
| [...]STATES Mr. vVn,soN. Yes, sir. vVhen you have a Representative in the |
| [...]e welfare of the great Government of which we are a part. \Ve have pride In our Government Institutio[...]consider the ho$I>ltal at the Seger Indian School a dlsgrnce to the Government which supports it and a shame to the great American people who glory In t[...]· 'fhey further reco1n1nend that a new hospital should be built there and money expe[...]lly thrown away. l\:fr. WILSON. Let me ask you a question. Up the river beyond the Seger School ar[...]dian land, abandoned reservations, where they bad a school. Of course, it looks to me like that land up there ought to be a recommendation for the sale of that land and reli[...]:fr. BUNTIN. As to the land, it is true. They had a boarding school up in that part of the country. It was abandoned and left a reserve. I think the Wichita Valley splits it ope[...]ed.) DFLoss LONE ,YoLF was thereupon called as a witness and, being first duly sworn, testi[...] |
| [...]Government. 1n that treaty the Qovernment give us a great big strip of country, to take in the ,vhol[...]ver strikes the south line of Kansas, and then in a south line to the southwest corner, and on to th[...]ne to the southeast corner of New Mexlco, then in a northeasterly direction from that southeast corne[...]· Mr. LONE WoLF. Well, it is just a. treaty that the Government gave that reservation[...]it is called- that were not right. In 1900 I was a party where I was really the man that did the wor[...]who was then chief at the time, Lone Wolf, filed a suit against Secre- tary Hitchcock protest[...] |
| [...]· Mr. LoNE WoLF. It was not a treaty. I t was an agreement. It was not an agree[...]eed the agent, Mr. Day, made an affidavit or made a report that the signers of that agreement were eq[...]ly law cases, and it is going to take the time of a good lawyer to run them down and to ascertain whe[...]se at all. Senator PrNE. They just said it was a political matter and that if you had any relief i[...]to Congress. Senator PINE. · Well, there are a number of such cases. Your representatives in Con[...]cure relief for the Indians. In the last Congress a bill was introduced t-0 give relief under[...] |
| [...]n. · i\1r. LoNE ,voLF. We have a treaty about it. Senator THOMAS. We are recomm[...]so complicated that they ,vould take the ti,ne of a good attorney bloc.k ing thenl out. Do you reme1n[...]you never got any phlce until yo_u had Cinploycd a lawyer. I think I know whnt was done, but 1t took the ti1ne of a lawyer, and a good one, for four years to win thnt case for you[...]nt my ti1ne too . . Sonat.or 'fuo)rAs. You spent a lot of t.i1ne. You know the work that was done.[...]s, and I do not think any of them would undertake a case of that kind, involving 1nillions, and promi[...]I could make you pro1nises, but to get results is a different proposition. Mr. LoNt: ,voLF. Then,[...]existing law where the Jaw provides an Indian is a half blood or less than half blood the Secretary can issue a patent, but not without application. Well,[...] |
| [...]STATES 7413 ~ir. LONE ,voLF. About a year, or may be two years after that, is when I w[...]those people. Senator FRAZIER. Were you ~iven a forced patent¥ Mr. LONE WoLF. No. M)' wife ha[...]hem nre illegal. Senator Mclliaster introduced a bill helping this class of people two or three years a~. I do not know whether that bill has been reintrocluced or not, but a bil1 of that kind will help this class of people,[...]is another 1natter I have been interested in for a nu1nber of yea.rs. \Vhen our big pasture reserve[...]and ,vhether we got all of our money in or not I a1n trying to find out several ti1ncs, but the Indi[...]t. Senator FRAZIER. I think if you will ,vrite a letter or a statement to your Congressman or to either of you[...]ck, and ,ve have to drive over to Lawton and have a hennng there to- morro,v morning beginnini[...] |
| [...]ed.) · · Hon. R . L . LA,VRENCE was called as a witness and testified as follows: Mr. LA,vnl,NCE. This is a st.atement of the joint committee of the civic or[...]SiII Reservation, the Fort Reno Reservatiol}J and a hard-surface military road betw:een; also indorsing Isaac "\valton League program for a playground in the Southwest in the Wichita Mountains. ~fr. Gaoauo. Let me ask you. A Senate subcommittee, of which Senator Steiwer is[...]son of the fact that Indian lands are nontaxable. A questionnaire has been sent out to the county jud[...]ng in ans,vering such ques- t.ionnaire i Mr. L A,vRENCE. I am the county judge of Caddo County and[...]line and made the statement that it cost an aver- a~e of approximately 44 cents a day to educate the Indian children wno attended t[...]is another matter. An investigation is made ,vith a view of having the Federal Government appropriate[...]ate. Senator FRAZIER. On the theory that it is a Federal obligation and not a local obl~ation 1[...] |
| [...]evied aiainst the taxable property in each county a qua.rter of a mill, wluch is kno,vn as the crippled children'[...]ounty that ,vas crippled or the child which had a handicap. ,ve have 1nade no difference between[...]Indian child that •)Ve sent there have we made a failure of. We have made a few failures on white children, but not on the[...]most wholly upon theh· agricultural rentals. for a living; and Whereas on account of the drqugh nn[...], the Indians, ancl tile community nt large. Thnt a copy of this resolution be sent to each Me[...] |
| [...]hea lth, weulth, and happi- ness. It promised him a pince by the side of bis great while brother und[...]e neighbor? 'l'he Indian of southwest Oklnhon1a Is in need of mo1·e lnclnstrlal schools to C<htcfitc their boys and girls in the a rt of living. 'l'hey need more hospitals and medi[...]J. A. BUNTIN. A . YOUNGl:IEDl.[...] |
| [...]admit they have made great progress. It bas been a trying period for them. Howe,•er, to put the e[...]xperienced white men will cause him to go through a much harder period than J\e bas ever experienced before. Competition will cause a great many of them to utterly fail. '.rhls will t[...]by meeting the demands at the present would be a backward step. The Government authorities should[...],000 In order to provide proper schoolroom space, a gymnasium, additional room space, additional qua[...]repairs In order to build the school plant up to a well-balanced Insti- tution which will meet the[...]n's ways. Many of the older Indians, how- ever, a1·e dying ofr. Many of the Indians born since 190[...]o are illegitimnle. 'l'his problem will soon be a mnjo1· one fo1· there is no funds with which to[...]nnd eclucational need$ of the Indians would be a bul'den beyond which the citizens could well at\'[...]ium. The peo11le in the State where there 1n·e a munber of Indians pay their part of expenses for[...]is county, county funds have been used to treat a number of Indian cripple children. P[...] |
| [...]thiu the very center of this 1jopulatiou of 2,500 a .hosoitnl shou'.d be erected at the Kiowa. India[...]ur hearty appro,•al. 'l'he p1·og1·ess made by a considernble number of the lead- Ing Indians alon[...]ommend the action of the Government In em])loy!ng a home-demonstrat- ing ngent on the reservation who[...]from present rate, based on current expenses, to a ctual"cost per day per pupil. •[...]nd bringing the. RiYerside boarding school up to a . well-balanced lostltutlon with a 'capacity 'for 200 pupils.. .[...]tional aetlv!t.1es·. Erect, maintain, and stall: a hospital · at Klo'l'l!a Indian Agency' in the center of the lnd!ljn PoJ>u[...]elief. nut floods will come again, and protection a gainst the dam- age and IHl\'OC done is a matter or national concern. The tather[...] |
| [...]place. They decided that each clrop would follow a main watercourse ·of the county from Its source[...]Indian. allottne,us a,rectea bv floods[...]....... . 160 40 -Approximate a.creago atltieted _... . .........................[...]o finance this most important work, and, as It is a public as well as private benefit, the State and[...], furnish power, relieve from distress, and prove a blessing to tbe entire cltizensblp. For[...] |
| [...]eriod for the Indians, we desire to submit to you a few facts relative to taxes that are being[...] |
| [...]n towuship, county, nod State government and only a smnll amount as school maintenance, he enjoys alJ[...]s of those that do pay the tax. The Indian ls a ward of the Government, not Oklnhomn, he is not even here by choice, but by request. Being a ward of the Government be should be maintained by the Government as a whole and no State should be forced to shoulder a[...]Information obtained by the assistance of Mr. J. A. Buntin, of the Ill(Jian •agency, and others, i[...]most wholly upon their agricultural rentals for a living, per eenL--- - -··-··---------[...] |
| [...]000 rentals to become due Jnuunry 1, 1931, making a total on January 1 or $353,000 which should be pa[...]llnble to distribute to the Indian there would be a total of more than $46,000 thnt cau be paid to th[...]s ix months, which would benefit the mcrchnnts tn a great. wny. The question nrises, why is It the[...]l'he lessees that bn<l n large crop of cotton and a good yield nre the only ones that 111-e able to p[...]1·entals from the earnings of the · year 1930. A g1-eat many lessees have ra.ised but little cotto[...]several counties;but for Caddo County they are on a sound ftnnncinl basis, but deposits bnve been goi[...]e of the year, and will continue to go down until a nother crop Is liarvcsted. ,v1th this con- dition[...]be more conservative in accepting securities for a loan. Cattle nrc of little value, horses tire sel[...]rnge farmer does not have feed sufficient to teed a horse through the winter ancl be feels that he ca[...]him tl,rough the winter. The banks nre not In a Pos ition to lonn the average lessee llllY money[...]Jessee hns exhausted all of bts security and, as a general rule, now owes the bank more than he can[...]ery small, probably not more than 1 per cent over a period of almost 80 years. '.l'be lenses are e[...]nnd the rentals are secured by the execu- tion of a bond with two sureties. At this time there are ma[...]he lessee n.nd the bondsman could 1>robahly stand a lawsuit nnd by the time judgment was rende[...] |
| [...]7423' I have not been nble to obtain a solution from anyone In regard to this situa- t[...]of the lessees and tbelr Inability to pay is only a part of tlie conditions that exist In this part[...]ey, securing the same by bnving the bondsmen sign a note, secured with :, uiortgag<l on the c1·ops[...]y to Joan the lessee, but It appears to me like a finance cor()oratlon someth ing similar to the[...]eed during the next six months. As I said before, a very small per cent of money due the Kiowa Agen[...]ible to secure aid at this time tbat will give us a!J n chance for a future. REOOMME[...]·to file with the Subcommittee on Indian Affairs a copy ot their recoro- mendations and make them a part of the official records of this committee.[...]reeding and raising of horses at that post. That a mUltary highway be established and constructed fr[...]- That the Federal Prison Board establish a Federal prison on land belonging to the Governme[...]Whisenhunt; Ira H. Lowery; . J. A. Buntin; L. O. Gibson; C. N. Meador; C. J. Clnrk; A. Youogbeim. 26465-31- PT 15-50 |
| [...]ER 21, 1930 Bon. LYMAN ~'RAZIER, |
| [...]now how. I ask that you send an inspector to make a survey on this line, nod he will find same to be[...]d law- abiding citizens ought to have this right, a full supervision of his children and to be paid t[...]ast se,•eral years our su1>erintendcnt, .Mr. J. A. I3untln, worked out a splendid building program- modern homes for our I[...]lubs for school, home, boys and girls, which made a Yery good showing at the county and State fuirs.[...]f not.bing is done to help them through. 'fhis Is a fact. Our Indians are needing help. The drinki[...]t ls too much red tape. I am safe to say lllr. J. A. I3untin with what business I ever done wit11 him[...]ection. Of course, we ought to be proud of Mr. J. A. nuntin's building progl'am of good homes, but af[...]d l'ich in \Vnsbingtou is untrue and since the ye.a r of 1926 thousands of acres of lands were put on[...]as bought through purchased authorized orders. It a fact. Please add to our hospital a tracboma specialist nnd n dentist and one good field matron out here !u Glover district and a Federal officer to protect our boys and gi[...] |
| [...]ess with Indiuns to some extent, and I am sending a copy of this letter to all sucll, · in orde1· t[...]t bas increase<! to such proportions as to become a direct contravention of the spirit of the trust i[...]hat is now under consideration, but In the future a strict rule will be mniutaiue<l with reference to[...]in trust, to have credit,. it gives nn order .on a p1·escribed form, and these orders mean thnt he[...]nd: the matter can usually be pa.ssed upon within a few· ml.uutes. Except .in such emergencies as co[...].J. A. BUN:rIN,[...].AFFID..\VIT STATE OF OKLAIIOM.A, |
| [...]ynn J. Frazier (chairman) presiding, at 9 o'clock a. 1n. Present: Senators Pine, Thomas, and Wheeler. Also present: ~1:r. A. A. Grorud, special assistant to the subcom- mittee, and Mr. Nelson A. Mason, clerk of the committee. . Senator FnAi1ER. This hearing is untler· authority of a resolution passed by the United States Senate aut[...]out the actunl conchtion of the Indians. We have a regulnr scheduled hen.ring ca.lied for 10 o'clock[...]f the older group of Indians we are going to hold a brief hearing here to hear some of them. I unders[...]e to talk about the school situation. ALBER'!' A'l!'l'Oc1,NIE was thereupon called as a witness and, after being first duly sworn testifi[...]RAZlEn. You may proceed ,vith Attocknie. ~1:r. A·rrOCKNIB. I-Ionorable Senate Committee, the grea[...]g that the Fort Sill Indian School be enlarged to a capacity of about 600. vVe think we have children[...]ng the Indians f rom his native life of living in a tepee into the p:tle faces' civilization.[...] |
| [...]chools, I say, all over the United States yet for a period of, say, 50 years. There is no use of t[...]ieve I am as intel]jgent as 111y children ,vho a_re going to school. I hnve one in the ninth grade[...]·am.ong the Indians. I t has not been such a long time ago since we lived in tepees and had never been in a building lili:'e this. I "'as born 9n a reservation in a tepee and so were 1nany of these older parents. W[...]vell enough. Another thing is they -take them to a different climate and the climatic conditions of[...]o not know ,vhat it means to 'have an education. A teacher in the Government service has to have a diploma. from other schools. T hese two children[...]ll should be advanced. They should be given there a full course -of a college nature and, speakin~ for my people[...] |
| [...]them have gone on for further education. Now, a Comanche Indian thinks just as much of his child as any other father of his offspring. It ~s just like a co,v ,vith her little calf. You take the calf awa[...]do not know whether any of you Senators hnve been a,vay from home ,vhen you were a boy or not, but I cnn reca.11 when I went to scho[...]I had better food; I was better clothed; I was in a better home; but I must go back. That, to some e[...]tisfied, why they can learn more. So we plead for a bigtrer school right here at Fort Sill. We n[...]o educa-• tion. Some of them are ,vorse than I a1n. i ciin talk broken English.. I a1n able to talk to you no,v, but some of them can[...]- pealed to Senators Pine and Thomas to introduce a bill in Congress, in order that we may have bigg[...],vilbur may say we have ,von the Indians. That is a long way off, ~fr. Senators. We arc just i[...] |
| [...]~5 years, but I do not expect to graduate into a clerk in a bank or in a store. ,ve want these buildings, though, and that ,vill be in com- pliance with a declared policy of the P1·esident of the United[...]hat will seize the opportunity to work to ma.ke a living during these hard times. ,~re want work i[...]es are not paid to some of our people. 'Fhere is a man right here that depends upon his lease money,[...]funds are getting lo,v I think we ought to have a payment of $50 this spring as a special pay1nent 11nd a SJ?ecial relief. If tlus should come up in t[...]hese Congress- men and Senators that we be given a special per capita payment of $50 this sprinz so[...]ir talks. Please reme1nber, though, that we need a $50 per capita payment. ,ve have $25 coming this spring, but ,vhat wiJI that amount to ,vhere a fa1nily is in destitute condition 1 I showed Ins[...]e ho,v tliey would keep fron1 freezing if we had a "•inter like last winter; and the famil[...] |
| [...]hat far advanced. ,ve still insist that those big a_t the 1•·ort Sil\ Indian School. ,v buildin£[...]e State of Oklahoma. Mr. GRORUD. H ave you not a shop here? Senator FRAZIER. I saw the shop this 1norning, or what they call a shop. Have you a forge shop over here? Mr. A-rrocKNIE. There is not. Senator FRAZIER. I tho[...]line was started. Mr. AnocK.NIE. ,v e need a domestic-science building, se,ving roorns, and so forth. I may be wrong, Senators, as I a1n not edu- cated. I a1n not a 1ncchanic or anything. But I think about $300,000[...]hat or not. We do not want our students attending a. State school at Cameron. If we are going to have[...]xcused.) YELLO,v F1sH ,vas thereupon called as a witness and having been first duly sworn, testifi[...]ERPRETER. Yellow Fish. Senator FRAZIER. 1\1ake a brief statement, if you wish . . The I NTERPRETE[...]ey ,vant the ~rades made hi~her than they are and a training depart- ment estaolished-manua1 training[...]in council gathered together here have asked that a $50 per capita payment be 1nade to them this spri[...]He said that 1s all he has to say. He says he 1s a Christian 1nan. He wants to do what is right, and[...]t the adrninistration of our superin- tendent, J. A. Buntin. ife is satisfied with the service render[...]ed.) Run1N ICoAOSECHON was thereupon called ns a witness, and after being first duly sworn,[...] |
| [...]NS IN UNITED STATES Senator FRAZIER. You have a state1nent you ,vant to 1nnke to the |
| [...]D STATES 7435 We need a shop,building that will' house the carpenter shop[...]hop, paint shop, and general 1nechanics. ,ve need a shop rooin to teach mechanics for our boys an[...]ntin has received it, be- -cause it went in but a few days ago. Mrs. Taliaferro has consented . to[...]that kind -0f ,vork and if they can it will be a means of Iivelihood. Senator FRAZIER. We t[...]t the corner and see it. (At 10.05 o'clock a. m. the committee adjourned.)[...]Director of Indian Educa- tion, I desire to make a tentative report of the flndings of the survey ma[...].ulai·ly for the Fort Sill Indian School. Later, a more extended Teport will be written giving all[...]good health on the reservation and that there Is a fair school attendance. It is difficult fr[...] |
| [...]tuitio11 tor Indian children in 75 public schools a11<l M1·. Walter, day school representative, stat[...]other public schools where some lndJan children a ttend for whom tuition is not now being paid. It[...]52 are one-half or near full blood, and 8 less tl1a11 one-half blood. Eighty-nine are orphans, 14 of[...]_____________ Of the 154 ch!ldren, 130 a re full bloods, 24 are one-half or near full bloo[...]Is 7, 5 of these Uve 2 ml!es from public schools, a nd l lives 2½ miles, the other Uves 3 miles. The[...]parents dead, and 18 have one parent dead. There a re 6 famHles out ot the 50 who have Illnes[...] |
| [...]ver I S years of age but in some school, which Is a good reconl. '.L' hirty-cight are out of school,[...]portation conditions exist there as elsewhere. A recapitulation will show 616 families visited wit[...]n for 11 years, be est.imntes that 103 of the 216 a re financially able to go to public schools. \Ve feel that thi~ is a conservative estimate and he was careful In givin[...]s, and l lives 8½ miles. '.1.'his would Indicate a great many of these children, or to be exact, 99 li,·e 2 miles or less from a public school. Then we made anotl,er test of wh[...]is school. On Saturday afternoons tile chil- dren a1·e permitted to go to town to shop or eng[...] |
| [...]le to pay taxi fares. This would Indicate that a great many of the chlld1·en, even tl>e majority,[...]ort Sill School come from homes that cnn aflo1·d a car or have money or both. '£he writer of this report Is not attempting to make any a1·gument but Is simply calling attention to what[...]correct, but we do feel that they are accurate to a very large per cent nnd that t11ey ean be used for a basis for any general estimate of the office, or[...]been done and in the preparation of this report. A more extended rep0rt will be written giving some[...]ler very greatly from the Fort Sill situation. A copy of tbi.s report Is being given to Superintendent J. A. Buoti.n , Principal B. L. Smith, and C. E. Campb[...]awton Chamber of Commerce. lt Is expected that a meeting with some of the Interested people at For[...]concerning matters there, after which I will send a report to the Office. Respectfully subm[...] |
| [...]'I Th'e comihitte'e met at''l0.30 o'elock a. m., the Hon. Lynn J ,.Frazier '[...]. .. ,.:.t~ o· :p.resent: ''Mr. ~ ; ,A. G~orud, sp~~c~al ~ssista,n( 1[...].to ·t,b-A ,subcom- mittee, ·and"Mr. Nels"on A. ".M'asbn, clerit of tlie comm1ttee. J[...]~r ~.tIER,➔This , b:eaf ipg i~,held' under .t~e a~tl?,ority of a, resolution 'i>ass'ed By the United f;!tates .Senate author1z1n" a com- mittee"of 'tli.'at' bow ,to' inv~tig'afu'i:ndiih\i cbn'.ditions throughout 2the ' Urue " t d St . a~~·' 1 , e ~~~' 'fi_rus. Ii'1n_~ up·' a "2~,veell: ,.;l'lP[...]i·ive to' Oklahoma .'C ity in order ' to catdli. a'n a~e~*09n i.r.iii,n '£/fr,' 'f,ashingto~:'' Y'{e..w[...]c,.4Irrll9R QUID.t;LKON1,vas thereupon called Q's a witness and, after,· · be},llg1Jirst, \l,u1f. s[...]" M,r, GmnELJ.ON. •Aa |
| [...]enator FRAZIER. '!'hat is ,vhat I 1nean. Have you a stliternent you wilnt to ,nake to the co1n1nittee? i •! r. Gu10ELRON. Yes, sir; I want to say a. fe\\' things about our allotinent tbnt has been[...]of the 1\.paches at that ti1ne. I was ,vorking in a little harness shop. They con1e t-0 n1e, General[...]nadarko Boarding School. Then I "'ent to Clnlocco a short. • ti1ne" .•[...]his Fort Sill reservation for 160 acres of Ja.nd, a good house, goo barn, chicken house, so111e fann i1nple1nents, a year's rations, and son1e clothingt" I said," 1'hat is not a joke, is it?" I says to him, I snys, " vVell, General, 11a ve you got one of those to-day 1 I would like t-0[...]the Apaches "'anted to 1nove out and n1ove out in a hurry before the places were fixed up. Now. "·it[...]just the snn1e as it was then. You could not put a. horse in it because it is not safe. You <:an not[...]f holes and · I have no 111011ey to repair it. I a1n not the only one that ,vay. All t he res[...] |
| [...]nlero or remaining here. Senator P1NE. ,vas he a. 1ne1nber of the Board of Indian Co1n- 1nissioner[...]only people that ,ve kno,v of that have got over a hundred ncres for $3,000 are those two white 111e[...]d into our tribe, Sergt. Martin Grebb, ,vho ,vns a soldier. He was on duty as conunissary sergeant; and a.lso our head tea1nster, Edward ,velch, he receive[...]be done about this? Do you think you did not get a fair deal out of this1 Mr. Gmo.ELKON. _No, sir; I do not think I got a fair deal, accord- ing to some papers here a while back that we looked over, ,vhere we signed[...]where the ot.her in1provements were 1nade. I have a. piece of paper here that stated ,ve were ,veil a[...]ting any money for our irnprovements on the place a.t all. Senator FRAZIER. 'fhis is a. Jett.er fro111 Co1nn1issioiler Burke, dated Febr[...]roving the place. Senator FRAZIER. e will want a copy of this letter fro,n Co1n- 1nissioner Burke[...]ecord. ,ve will either take this letter and rnake a copy and send it back to you, or you copy it and send it to us. Mr. GmoELKON. I will 1nake a copy and send it to you. Senator FMzIER. All r[...]xcused.) WrLnun PE,vo "'as thereupon called as a "'itness and. after being first duly sworn[...] |
| [...]. Senator FRAZIER. H iive tb,e Comanches a bllsj.ness council or a tribal council 1[...], Mr. PE,vo. We have what they call a tribal, business committee 1 ,vith the affiliated[...]. 1 Senator FRAZIER. Have you a statement you .want to make to the co,nmittee 1[...]r statement.as briefly as possible. . We-have not a great deal of time. , Is this the,statement , you[...]the, last chief of the Gomanches died or. passed a.wa.Yi, we asked th.e lndia.n ,Bureau to let us ,select a. chief., Their contention wns.<tha.t,since the chief passed a.wa.y,•,in. '. lieu of that. why we could, have a ,business committee to transact any 1na.tter that[...]ng that way, fo.r some ,.ti.m.e,,. L ,h ave be.en a member since th~n, since the ·committe.~ was appoi,n.ted ror sel!icted. We •run a.long that ,vay for a number of yea.rs· and fina.Jly ,we had some ques[...]people, and· we asked the Indian Bureau 1 about a pay,nent and in•reference to the payment :why w[...]business council, 01: :committee should be given aa.d. ·" . , 1[...]Mr. PE,vo. "\Ve have had since some time ago, a year or two ,agO:- something like that-a new ruling ,vhicb went into effect from the India[...]gives our cb,ildren'~ funds tp be depositecl. As a member of the tribal busi.ness committee, we have[...]e that rulin~ ,vent into effect it is ~oing to be a rhling that we have to ~o by. l n former y[...] |
| [...]0£ course, thi> ·commissio'ner contends it is a pretty good thing to save the children's money[...]FRAZIER. What is that1 Mr. PE,vO. There is a ruling that governs the individual Indian mone[...]ve been there. I never seen .it, but there was a carnival going· on at the school just about t[...]Mr. BUNTIN. They have little gathering,s like a lawn pa.r ty out there and they will sell diff[...]askecl for small little donations, probably, just a: quarter or something to buy something with. W[...]appropriated. Senator FRAZIER. Is there not a -provision that the children's fnnds or their'[...]t hundred thou- sand dollar per capita payment a few days ago, $25 apiece. If he has thr[...] |
| [...]ron1 ti1ne to ti1ne, either to the parent or just a little to the pnrent. llfr. Gnonuo. flis[...]P•:wo. So1ncti1nes $5 or $10, nccording to the a1nount of n1011ey they have got. Senat[...] |
| [...]trcat,nent. Senator FRA?.rt:n. For trachon1a 1 i1:r. P:ewo. Yes, sir. '!'hey can not get[...]ng to the testi1nony we got yesterdl\y, there are a lot of children that can not go to school. ·[...]. They should go and show 11n Indiiin ho"' to set a plo"·, how to set it so it be easy on the tea,n,[...]opportunity to see hnn sho,v an Indian how to set a plow or anything like that. |
| [...]UNITED. STATES Senator FRAzmR: Do you live on a, fa.rm yourself1 Senator Ji'RAZIER- O,n a pretty good road t ,, 1 |
| [...]n that fonn I thii}k the poor Indian is always in aa witness a.n d, af.t;er being first duly sworn, testi6.ed th[...]· FRAZIER. Ifow far? The INTERPREl'ER. About .a 1nile. Se,nator FRAZIER, You live o,n a farm? The INTf:RJ,'RETER. Yes, sir.[...] |
| [...]N .UNITED STATES Senator FRAZI£R. Have you a sti1lernent you ,vnnt to make to the |
| [...]t the .Anadn1·ko Agency? The IN·n:nrnE'l'ER. A.t the A.nadarko Agency. He says the same way here with th[...]oing their business, and I so1neti1nes do not geL a chance to see. hi1n. Senato1· FRAZIER. How 1n[...]used.) MAN·SOOK·\VAH was thereupon called as a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testif[...]iles. The INTErtPRt.'TER. I don't kno"v, but I a1n what they 1night call a wild Indian, a real Indian. Senator FRAZIER. You do not look[...]The INTERPRETER. Yes; he says he ,vants to make a s(ate1nent. I call all these Indians here 1ny children, because I a1n an old 1nan and in looking over the1n I want to[...]e good houses. Senator F11AzIEn. Diel vou have a house built? The INTERPRETER. He snys " I had a. house built a.nd it blowcd dow n. Senator FnAZIER. It[...] |
| [...]o see me and ask 1ne every time he comes to build a house, n.nd he says finally I got tired of it nl)d he· says all ri~ht iii yon will build 1ne a brick or stone house I will build one. So ne did.[...]days; I do no~ know. the month. Senator FnAz11:a: Was it this year or last year 1. The INTERPRE[...]. 1'he IN·r.&RPRJs'TER. I live right there in a tent: Senator FRA:t.IER. I~ a tent 1· It is pretty cold weather to live in a tent now, is it not 1[...]s t hey are rebuilding it an·d ·I an1 living in a tent now. H e says he ,vas expecting, Mr. Buntin[...]he INTEJU'llh'TER. H;e says he don.'t ~now tl}e ·a1n<;n1nt o~,money that 1t cost.[...]Yes, sir. . Senator FRAZIER. Was it a cyclone or tornado? , , The I[...]s for cyclones or tornadoes. 1'hey just call them a stor1n. He says that is what he call then1.[...]'fovelty got in on the oil business and got quite a bal.ance, probably $35,000 or $4-0,000, and has quite a Jot of land; probably a section of land on Beaver-- Senator FRA[...] |
| [...]Yes, sir. 1'ne sto1·m unroofed it and took o,ff a porch and the r oof too. 'One time there was a po.rch off. , Senator[...]n that·district 1 Mr. BUNTIN. Cecil Rhoades, a temporary farmer, but a very good fello,v.[...]it ,vas blown down, why the farmer went in about a half niile bi.it did not come to the place. M[...]'f he INTERPRETER. One time he was there he took a picture· of the house. Senator FRAZIER. Hav[...]ow1 and he want to ask the committee to grant us a chief instead of a tr1bal council. Senator FRAZIER. Well, can not this· group of I ndians elect aa .,vhole. We have a Kiowa chief up h_ere. 1 They call him the chief,[...]ciate with the chiefs an'd ' •I am reco~ized as a chief at one time, but he says lately my children wanted a 1>usiness committee, so he says I stay back and let' you all E:lect a business committee. He says the Kiowas aff[...] |
| [...]rom them, have somebody write to "\Vashington to a Congressman or to one of his Senators, nnd we wil[...]used.) Al\ros ICoMAH ,vas thereupon called as a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testif[...]"\Vhat is your na1ne ¥ i\•It·. l(Ol\lAH. A1nos l(omuh. Senator FRAZIER: Where do you liv[...]5 rniles south of Lawton. Senator FRAZIER. On a fal'ln? Mr. I(OMAH. Yes, sir. ·[...]Col\IAH. No, sir. Senator FRAZIER. You are in a pretty hard situation, then? .i\1r. l(ol\IAH.[...]re being farmed so long that they are \\•ashing a,vay no,v. There are parts of it unable to the far[...]Should it be i t1r. ICo~rAH. Yes, sir. We had-a terracing demonstration bv Mr. Roland Craf[...] |
| [...]hines cost 1 i\:h ·. BuN·1·1N. About $135. A very good one can be gotten for that and then the level $150. That would fit out a fnrn1er \\•ith th'e le'Vel and 1nnchine that \\[...]One district farmer would have it. I thinli it is a splendid su <>gestion. Senator l!~AZIER. Have[...]t as the funds could be ·gotten hold o . That is a splendid suggesti on. · Mr. l(OMAH. A.t the rate that the "'Oriel is traveling, it is more of a scientist's job on the fal'ln to 1nake· a living. That is the reason I want to put that cla[...]t one thing then anotfier, and ""e are asking for a $50 special relief pay1nent from the Gov- ernn1en[...]nittee. I for one 1nyself au1 in favor of hav-ing a high school 1nade out df the Fort Sill I ndian Sc[...]personal experience. I have been connected- I am a member of the Al\.ll American A1nerican Legion post of this town-La.,vton. Sen[...]e All American post. I ha.ve been traveling quite a bit. I did not want to go there but I had to go I guess to do. ,n:y part. I hitve been in France about a year and the experience I have gotten fron[...] |
| [...]STATE§; JOHN Loco was thereupon cal led as a witness and, after being first |
| [...]they ·all at ho1ne 1 Mr. Loco. 'fwo of them a1~e; so.me of them are in l',1e.xico. Senator[...]machinery have you got1 Mr. Loco. I have got a plow and lister, that is all, and a walking cultivator. Senato1· FRAZIER. You need a little more machinery. You say some of your child[...]Mr. Loco. Yes, sir. Senator FRA7JER, We saw a number of the children out here this morning ·and they looked as if they were bein~ well 'treated a.11d bein~ t11ken care 'of all right. Do yo[...] |
| [...]Senator FRAZU:R. You think that "'ould be a good thing¥ Mr. Loco. Yes, sir. Sena[...]ce about. 1894, when I came here. Fort Sill was a little·bit of an old military reservation, may[...]They give us some land. ·1·hey told us to put a fence around it and\ it would be all right. ,v-e did. ,,re got a little inore cattle. General Scott went to see so1ne of these India.us to give us a little more to be added to the reservation. Senator FRAZt:.£R. A little 1nore land 1 Mr. Loco. A little more land, so ,ve " 'ould have a big reservation around here; and we are sure gl[...]e raising crops, and we were living like ahnost a king. That is the ,vay we felt. Everythin~ we r[...]e in Lawton, and 0111· cattle we1:e getting big a1:1~ we ship tnem to Oklahoma City and ;Kansas Ci[...]iving good. Mr. BUNTIN. This is when he ,vas a captive on the militi1ry reserva- tion out here.[...]ive you 160 ac1:es. ,v-e will buy good land, with a good house, goo'a barn, good clncken house, good implements, and every- t.ltin~-give ypu a good start. ,\Till you take that? " ,\Thy, sure.[...]ears and 1t has not con1e yet. Senator FnAzn:a. Have you got, some livestock, implements,[...] |
| [...]irsi Mr. Loco. Yes, sir. Senator FnAzn;R. J a1n frank to say if the money spent for the · military post was spent for yon Indians yon would be a lot better off. l\ir. Loco. Now, I ,vant that[...]l\'[r. Loco. Yes, sir. Sen,1tor FRAZIER. I a1n sure the Congressmen and the Senntors are ,vill[...]e are short of time. Mr. Loco. Let me tell you a little 1nore. There is a white man that has got 160 1tc1·es. I am I ndian[...]y Gen. Hugh L. Scott 160 acres of farm land with a goocl wire fence around it, a good house, good barn, goocl cbickeu house, farm[...]es of lnnd in order to buy smnller farm and build a new · house, barn, and cWc'keJ• house.[...]net of September 21, 1922 (42 St:nt. L. 991) an a1>1>rop1·lation was made of $42,500. The mone[...]$144 for i>ach Indian. This wa~ done, but It wns a mii;llty slim way to try to live and clothe ourselves-- only $12 a month; oot many humnn~ can do S-O at such[...] |
| [...]00 for the man and $2,000 for the wife. They took a farm of 100 acr~• which had an old •1-room house ,uul what was supposed to be a barn. This barn was dilapidated and bas since f[...]ement. 011e party fo1md it necessary to use a port.ion of their cattle monev. '£he money .wa[...]ld have been notified by the <\I.Strict farmers· a·n1l licld matrons. We do not understand where[...]give them at least 80 acres of land each. This Is a smnll re- quest, and there are not many childre[...]Kiowa, and Kiowa-Apaches regarding crop mortgage. A short while ago it .w as ruled that the Oklahom[...]property in order to live until harvest. It Is a long wait for a square meal. In the above statement,[...] |
| [...]OFFICE 0}' I NDIAN A.Ff'AIRS,[...]of your letter of February 13, 1925, transmitting a>J inquiry from Hon. L. 111. Oensman. of Lawton, O[...]d sho,1lc~ also 1·eceh·e 160 acres of lnncl, nt a cost of not to exceed $2,000. ,vhen lands were ac[...], . The money appropriated by tile a.ct of .September 21, 1922, was also for the subsi[...]ng, and permnuent improvements for these Indians. A,1thority therefore was g1·nute.d October 7, 1924. In . a later letter the su1>criuteudent reported t)>nt t[...]of February 7, 1925, is returned · herewith, and a ciu·bou copy of this answer is inclosecl for you[...]LA wRENCE l\1AltSHAI,L was thereupon ca.Jled as a wi tness and, after being first duly sworn, testi[...], they ha.ve been asking for to improve our land, a.ncl the same with .these children's land. They only bought a few-40 acres, I think, or son1ething like[...] |
| [...]the one that drew the ngree1nent. I did not know a thing about it until he sho,ved 1ne the agree1nent and he induced 1ne to sign the a~ree- 1nent, saying that no money ,vould be issued to 1ne fro1n 1ny tund unless I signed the a"'ree1nent. Senator FRAZIER. 1'7 hat was the ag[...]ntil such ti,ne thnt I was able to settle down on a fa.r1n and make a home. At that time I did not care to fann. I ,vnn[...]ti1ne and time again that I ,vas not trying to be a. far1ner just because I Juul a piece of land. T hat does not 1nake me a farmer. Senator FRAZIER. ,:vhat are you doing[...]Y. \-Veil, at the present ti1ne I cfo not think I a1n get- ting along very well. It is on account of[...]d when I went up to the agency why they gave 1ne a. letter asking for one- fourth of the rentals whe[...]n_tor FnAz1r.rr. 1-Ic \\•nntcd to pay the whole a1nount of the rental 111 advance? 1'.fr[...] |
| [...]is, Mr. Superintendent 1 i\ir. BuN"l'IN. He is a Co1nancbe and of an excellent fiunily. He has gon[...]nwiiy until he got ready to establish hhnself in a ho1ne, so he would not have to sell iinythinf?·[...].b"l'HY. I did not have anything to do wit.Ii the a&_ree1nent. Mr. BuNTIN. I drew it up like you[...]says is the case in order to save it until he got a. ho1ne. He says he did not "'ant any then. I kne,v he was a young fello,v. That is about all there is to 'it.[...]there. H e does need son1e 1noney. H 2 1111s had a. failure. We wrote t o the lessee for an advance[...]ntal. H e does not owe anything. H e does not owe a_nything before the first of the year. He did not[...]i\ir. Toei,:-rHY. He wanted to pay the ,vhole a1nount rather than just to pay a s1na.ll stun. • Mr. BUNTIN. I do n[...]tten. I t says no 1noney is due no,v. This is not a de,nand. 'fhe rental ,v,1s $465 a year. I t would be half probably dne t,he 1st of[...]so 1nuch it ,vould be apprecia.ted, but it is not a deinand because he does not owe anything until it[...]Senator Fu,\ZIER. I-le said the lessee would pay a year in advance. i\-Ir. B UNTIN. 1\Tel.J, if[...]e ,vonld pay it. ,~re ,viii be glad to execute a receipt in advnnce and give hin1 the receipt. It[...]tract ,vas signed or before it ,vas signed I got a confirn1ntion fro1n the office the lessee would p[...]tnd he hnd per,nission fro1n the office, so being a bitnke1· I did not see how he expected to[...] |
| [...]in. l\'.lr. ToPETHY. Some tirne ago I made a special request to the dis- trict farmer at Ca[...]. Buntin and. at the same time another boy had a, request he ,vas up there at the· same time an[...]• P£-NO-TER-KA was callccl as a witness and testifie9 through an interpreter as[...]he .has·not got any money. ;He .s aid. there was a certaiv transaction the office done for hiJn whe[...]excused) C. B . STINCHF.CU.M ,vas called as a witness and, after being first duly sworn, testi[...]Vhat is your occupation~ Mr. STINCHECUJ\t. I a1n co11nected ,vith the Magnolia Petrolettm Co. a[...]know what you are talkinCY about, Senator. Back a. number of years ago, in the early part o"f my a[...]ds. I was fonnerly the supetintendent there. A.t that time the department at ,vashiniton executed what ,vas known as a declaration policy. 'fhat declaration policy declared that there should be a cornpctency co1nmission appointed, consist[...] |
| [...]y of n patent without the Indians1 consent was a violation of n contract, the trust patent decl[...]1nen1bers of the con1111ittee ' toi'hold down on a grent,many pittents that ,vould other,vise' have been delivered. '!'here were a; number of patents that the Indians ,vere fair[...]position was that the cteclarntion policy ,vns•a dishonest net on the part of the depart1nent at "\>Vashington. A ·number of piitents ,vere delivered and force[...]co1nittee "'as rather slack. It did not amount to a great denl. Senn tor FRAZU:n. You stated t[...]ur jurisdiction 1 ~Ir. STINCHECUM. I sent- a telegra1n to the departtnent protesting agains[...]no,v. I know several of the1n do.. I have been a,vay fro1n the Indian _eight yea.rs. ,\Tbile I hav[...]they¥ llir. STINCIIEGmr. 1'hat is probably a fact. 1'hat usua.lly happens. when a patent is issued. · j)fr. GR011uo. Some o[...] |
| [...]lands be held in trust. They realize t.hat ,vhen. a patent is issued there is 1nighty small chance[...]}1r. FuAzlER. \Vhere do you Ii ve 1 }'Ir. P A.BOOO. 1\.nadarko. Senn tor FnAZJf:R. '\\That[...].re you n Co1nanche Indian 1 }'Ir. P AlIOOO. A Co1un.11che. Senator FnAzIEJt. What, degree[...]Mr. P .;1.HOOO. Yes, sir. Senator FRAz1a1. Have you got it yet? Mr. P.;1.IIooo. No, si[...]I sold it. .Senntor FRAZIER. ,You were given a patent in fee? ll1r. PAHooo. Yes, sir. Se[...]enator F HAZIF;R. Y 011 have been changing around a good deal 1 ~Ir. P ,1Ho1>0. Yes, sir. S enator FRAZIER. Now you are do"'n to a day laborer is that the idea ?[...] |
| [...]7465 Senator FRAZIER. Have you ·a. family t · Mr. PAHODO. Yes, sir.[...]or FRAZIER. '\'\Thereabouts t l\ir. P A11ono. The Anadarko public schools. Se[...]r. Senator FRAZIER. Of course, they had a ruling at t he depart,nent, at least the departrnent has ,nade a request that where an Indian fan1ily is li[...]re1note districts where they are not near a school. Mr. PAHODO. I was not quite abl[...]re? Mr. P AHODO. \i\1'ell when they get a lit-tie higher up in "'l'nde. Senator F[...]e superin- tendent. I do not know. There is a good deal' of inter<>.st in enlarging |
| [...]Iarger so they can take in 1nore pupils and offer a full high school course. If that cnrr be done\ th[...]ll of these schools are crowded. We have visited, a number of them and all of them are crowded and they hnve to turn away a'lot of pupils. 'fhat is all. (Witness excused.[...]Fede,·al Bwild·ill{f, La,101011-, Ok/a.: Re your wire 20th. Owing to insufficient tech[...]e have coni-entrated on projeets In Northwest and a re now concentrating on projects lo Southwest, in[...]tion; and Whereas the Lawton Ki\vanls Club has a direct i.n terest in the Indian boys and girls of[...]n Congress be urged to secure an appropriation of a sufficient sum of money for that •1>Ccific 1n1rpose. De It furtlier Resolve,i, '£hat a copy of this resolution be plncecl iu the !muds o[...]R. A. PARKINSON, Presid.Cnl. Attest: |
| [...]7467 L(A.wroN, OKLA., N~•bcr £1, 1930. · Hou. LYNN J. FRAZIER, . 011,a,,.,,u,,. of sc,i<,te Oommittce on[...]d the most ncces~ury thing to be done is to erect a high-school building and establish a complete and full high-school course. Our kno[...]rnment expects to make and develop the Indians to a better class of citizens; tliis· is the only wuy[...]t be done in the public schools. '.I11ere•· a1·e· so ninny · needed things at the Fort Sill[...]The so-called machine shop is nothing more than a carpenter shop fo·r woodwork; poorly equipped and small. To be trunk about it, it is a joke and not worthy of the name by which it is called. A modern machine sbop with moclern equipment wliere boys ·may be taught trades a'ud be fitted to make a living when they leave school should be estnblisbed. A paint, harness, aud shoe shop sh.ould be added.[...], . · The school should have a band al\d .cpmpetent instructor. Boys, nncl gi[...]be so conducted that they will be fitted to make a living after leaving the school rather than be ti[...]e or university work. '.!.'he estnblisbmcnt of a modern high school where matters heretofore refer[...]held by the Indian to be fnrmed by the ailo'ttee, a competent perso,n who , understands agriculture,[...]he ..Indinus and many of them who pretend to farm a,·e absolutely ignorant of practical farming. Sma[...]ms. Every good farmer should produce gardens, and a great deal of food cnn be provl(led by the proper[...]e being that when such patents are issued, within a short time tbe land has become mortgaged o[...] |
| a nd more ho11est. Ul)on the lands of many India[...]with co,n- paratively smnll expense and , within a re11sonable length of time ~uch trees would beeom[...]ng such employment. The caring of the homes in a better manner should by nll means be encouraged. Picnics nre a serious kind or amusement, though seemingly harmless, and are a disa<h·nntage and. a detriment. '£wo, three, nnd live day picnics sho[...]'rlor, honorable Commissioner of In,llan Affairs, A. J. Buntin, Superintendent of Koiwa Agency, and J[...]ut other improve- ments are needed on IJehalf of a poor people. In the Interest of good service and fairness to Government employees, a nurses' home or employees' building should be er[...]ercular patients should be seriously considered. A building suitable for the care of aged Indians wh[...]anged. Ju fairness to the girls and women who a re assistant nurses and who work in the hospital[...]tablished unde r similar regulations as those of a hospital of tbis cnse, which, as I understand, soon will be n class A hospital. It is unfair and unjust to these employ[...]ssion. Under the present rule, no matter bow Jong a woman may be a nurse in this hospital or how well she knows the profession, she can not graduate and is still a working girl, rather than a professional nurse. Certain landscaping should[...]e appearance of the institu- tion. Indians who a re not contlned to the hospital, who are diseased or h ave afflictions, should be brought to the hospital a nd examined so that the disease may not become ch[...]nadequate, it is advisable to construct nnd equip a new lnundr:r large enough |
| [...]e two institutions with modern machinery and with a reusonaOle aniount of dry~clcaning nulchh.1e1·y. f The establishment of a dairy herd that will furnish nbundaut pure milk f[...]I visited my son, Luther,. last week who bas been a patient in your hospital <lnring the past month.[...].we have· to drive to Oklaho1na City to catl:h a, train 'tliere at 3,40 .t his ,a:fte1·noon; I want to say nt this time if any In[...]It hns always been our policy to give both sides a chance to be heard, ,vhether they be nn employee[...]n. We will put it in the record. You ,nay answer a.n y charges thitt were made against you or anythi[...]nt degree of com- pletion without Senator Pine as a 1ne1nber of the subco,.mnittee. He will be[...] |
| [...]mer superintendent pf Kiowa Agency; while be was a superintendent, there wns a sick1 man stayed In the police cnm1> at the · .a[...]ital was b\tilt and its' enla1·gemcnt, and It is a gr~nt thing for the Indians. It takes n mnn like[...]nl purposes. Bids for lensing ·pasture lands for a term of Un·ce nod one-half yea,·s from J[...] |
| [...]erence right to J)urcba,;e their holdh11,-s under a))))t·oved lenses nt ))rices to be fixed by three apprnisers to be a))polnted by the Secretary of the Interior. The bi[...]allotted t11e town site at Hobart 320 nc1·es and a t Anadarko 320 acres and at Lawton 320 acres we[...]me towns, and that the homesteaders not been out a ny money to b11ildir1g these ))ubllc building and[...]l'apers clippings showing how the State wns given a share of Ute oil funds from the Red Rivers funds and also the letter of John A. J;'nin, the tribill attorney, wl10 wa_s represe[...]FRAZIER, Olw,innan Senate Oonw1ittce on l>uUan A(fa,i.rs,[...]or in tills hospitnl, and in asking for fu1·ther a))pro))riations we do not do so in the manner of c[...]g· school which would Instruct and train the lnd1a11 women ancl girls In -this• 2646[...] |
| [...]and 11ursiug, who would be greatly benefited ,bY a vlsltlpg nurse of their own peo1>le who would tea[...],. Thanking you in advance and trusting for a favorable ~nslderatioo, we a,;e, Very res1~tfully yours,[...]As b11sine;Js women we rcall1,e the Importance of a high-school education. The Ind1nn is really in gr[...]n not Ile nccommodaied In the liomes and It works a hardship on their toming nn'cl going, but If they were a t the Indian school, the pr9per pince for them to be, they would receive a ·11igh-scbool education and t11e ad,-antagcs of[...]would be equl1>ped to as.~ume bis or her pince in a gainful occupation after len,·ing school.[...]tnl and al.so that the Government should pro\'ide a herd of tho1·oughly tubercuhir-tcsted cows to pr[...]ropcr kind of milk for the hos1)it:1l, which with a fresh-air pavilion would ,Io umch to stamp[...] |
| [...]----------------------------------- 6825 Allcott, A. B. (affidavit)----------------------------------[...]__________________________ 7200, 7266 Andrews, H. A. : . Statement showing coodltlon·o'f Quapaw Ag[...]____ ___ _____________________ 68<36 n,1rney, R. A., re certificate of competency____________[...] |
| [...]6712 Buntin, J. A.: ·[...]326, 7342 ·. Letter re administration of ,Kiowa A:genCY- ---------------"-- -"--- -- 7840 Rec[...]7265 Buntin Mrs. J. against Complaint A. : _____________________________________[...] |
| [...]of...~.... ....... . ............. 7415 Collins, Aa Fort Reno.................................[...] |
| [...]·· r146 Eggers, Charles : Objection to Snc a nd Fox tlibal counclL •••••••••••••• a __•• _•• _. . 7098 Ileen lied---____[...]on re school conditions-·-- ---- 7042 Osage AA. U.. tes timony re·-····-··--------[...] |
| [...]" ,, • ~88~, ~ (1.A¥l•Pr~Jamatlon 11<:, Resolutlon[...]---·--················ 7418 Foo'a, 'lihi<I 'o'f,illidlnns "existing OD:[...]Go,·ernment fn1·mer: •· ,ComJ>lnlnt against Aa O~age Agency, re-····-···[...] |
| [...].. ................. . . ............. 6759 l'aa nsf e1· recon11ncr.1dcd- ___ ___________[...] |
| [...]nntiug to Indians ____ ____________ ____ _________a_· _ ________ 0062. 6700 Kiown .Agency, 1·e[...]-- 709a F1·azler, Hon. Lynn J . - Letter to, re Sac and Fox Tribes------------- ---------[...]- - ------------ ------- 72S2 Circula r of J. A. Buntin to Indlnns 1·e special office day[...] |
| [...]•itl.1drnwn for schQOI r111rl)OSCS------ , - - -a -, --.- - ---, , 7300 · Klown Indian bospit[...]-•------------- -- , 7265 ·, · Letter of J. A. Bnnt1J1, re ndmh;ilstraUorJ of--- --~- - · ··[...]on Indian llospttnl, complaint. ngnh1sL., _ :~. : a,. • .:s•••.J._._ .. _. ,.73'26, 7365 J.ea[...]. t • ••• ~- - , ,. 6987. Tatro, J . A., report of, rc_ · - - · -··--·---· · ··[...]- · --·-· -'----···---- 7332, 7343;.7346! 1aaaAA. S. Snnds.·•• -: . ____ . _____,_ 686[...] |
| [...]re_____ ___________ _____________ __ • 6849 l\{a rsbn 11, Ln w1·e11ce.. __ .... _...... __ ......[...]6719 Allcott, A. B .. nffidnvlt t·e---- ----- ------ - --[...] |
| [...]___________________ 7005 Snyder, A. R., testimony of____________________________ ___[...]__________________________________ Pewo, ,vilbur A., case rC- - ------------------------- ----------[...]_____________________ 7175 , ,Schwartz, Oscar A., re __________________; _________________[...] |
| [...]con,. Raymond: l\.lol·tgngcd 1n·ot)crt.r to A. S. Snnds .... ..................................[...]. . . . l'owc1· of utto,·n~· executed to A. S. Sands- -- - -----------~"----·- 6862 |
| [...]•... ~.... 7089 ' 'Appropriation of $3,000 for aA. S. :[...]..................•. , .. 7207" • Buntin, J. A.,- statement· re............................. .[...]lvestotk 11L ••••••• !~!... ~ •.. a........... . .............. .... . .... 7201 •[...]••! . .... 7258 " 'llson, Geo. A., stntement re...................................[...]66S-l Sencen ludinn ·School (\ Vyandotte) : •. a •••••••••• s •••[...] |
| [...],;6979 Snyder, A. R----- --~--------- ------------·- -----:-~----[...]••••..••..••.... .••••• a ••,••••••• ••• , 6669[...]••••..••••..•• .6783 ; 7 Sac and Fox Agency·-················[...]ernoYill of J ~ George W.r1gl\t.• 6~ ,:a |
| [...]___ ____________ ________ 7197, 7202 Sac and l,'ox, letter to comm.ittee-------------- ---[...]-- --- ----------------- 7228 Wilson, George A---------------------------------- --------[...] |
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United States. Congress. Senate. Committee on Indian Affairs, Survey of conditions of the Indians in the United States. Hearings, U.S. Senate. Part 15 Oklahoma, November 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, amd 22, 1930 (1931). Montana History Portal, accessed 19/02/2025, https://www.mtmemory.org/nodes/view/5649
